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  • Catknight
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:28PM

      hi guys, Having been to Pastor prince talk a few times, found that the guy a charismatic speaker ...now the group building a church by 2011 instead of holding it in suntec...seems like the prince wants to outdo pastor kong..sigh,,megachurch competition?

      However Pastors like Prince reminds me of Anthony robbins cloaked in religous form, anyone NCC members?

  • airgrinder
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:30PM

      like that then can attrach people mah.

      was thinking about their preaching ofgiving to the needy. Hmm... spending millions tobuild a mega church...

  • Jamie Zawinski
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:31PM

      They have the means and the needs, their congregation is big, why not?

      Edited by ^tamago^ 08 Apr `08, 12:32PM
  • Catknight
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:35PM

      NCC  building look post modern, reminds me of a D10 condo rather than church...and people like pastor prince need to be paid on engagement basis like big time  motivation seminar speakers, what's the world coming to?

  • Catknight
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:38PM

      No wonder pastor prince always look so happy, so much money changing hands...getting sick of prosperity gospel that only benefit the church leaders like him

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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:41PM

      Actually, if it only benefits him, how come there’s still a large congregation going every week? Hmmm.

  • dumbdumb!
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:42PM
      Originally posted by Catknight:

      hi guys, Having been to Pastor prince talk a few times, found that the guy a charismatic speaker ...now the group building a church by 2011 instead of holding it in suntec...seems like the prince wants to outdo pastor kong..sigh,,megachurch competition?

      However Pastors like Prince reminds me of Anthony robbins cloaked in religous form, anyone NCC members?

      church not enough space, build new one lor.

       

  • Catknight
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  • dumbdumb!
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:43PM
      Originally posted by Catknight:

      NCC  building look post modern, reminds me of a D10 condo rather than church...and people like pastor prince need to be paid on engagement basis like big time  motivation seminar speakers, what's the world coming to?

      well, think of it this way. kong and prince led at least a thousand ppl to christ so far.

      what have you done for God? maybe if you want to critisize, wait until you've done as much for the kingdom first?

  • Catknight
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:45PM

      Please lah...people come and go in church especially charismatic ones....there's no sense of holy ghost just emotional stirring

  • airgrinder
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:45PM

      Could be liken MLM. Those junior mlm people pay to hear senior mlm people speak.

      It could be about how these speakers have the ability to motivate, to create hope to the listeners.

  • Catknight
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    • 08 Apr `08, 12:48PM

      People always need hope even in caveman days but this is just too much,,,maybe I;m conservative..but I'm sure even modernity needs to draw a line somewhere especially in religion.

      An old wall  properly consecreted here in SG probably is more holy than some million dollar post modern building

  • Catknight
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  • Icemoon
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    • 08 Apr `08, 2:02PM
      Originally posted by dumbdumb!:

      well, think of it this way. kong and prince led at least a thousand ppl to christ so far.

      what have you done for God? maybe if you want to critisize, wait until you've done as much for the kingdom first?

      What a way to put it.

      Have you counted the number of people they have alienated from Christ? Factoring in the number of possibly false converts to Christ, they might have scored a net loss after all. biggrin.png

  • Catknight
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  • newcomer
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  • ^tamago^
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  • fairlady_xoxo
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    • 08 Apr `08, 4:57PM

      I was watching Kingdom of Heaven the other day...you should be glad that Christians now are not so scary and barbaric as like in the past...when religion was still young...and those who have power...may not be preaching the right cause...

       

      I wouldn't want to comment much on this. I shall put it as personal freedom of choice. Some people choose to convert while others choose not to be affected. After all, you decide for yourself which religion suits you.

       

      As for how much a pastor earns, lets for now keep it as he earns what he should and not what he can afford to earn.

       

      Besides you sound rather hostile to Churches and pastors.

  • RealMagic
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    • 08 Apr `08, 6:13PM

      i want to be a pastor next time. cause can become very rich. only need to talk and "act holy" to convince young teenagers mind. very easy to influence them 1.

  • jay_rocks
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  • mhcampboy
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    • 08 Apr `08, 7:52PM

      God blessed the church.... so why not....

       

      They build big buildings... at the same time.. big on charity.... y never talk abt tat?

  • 4794
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    • 08 Apr `08, 7:59PM

      i rather find it abnormal to see a church with lots of member not having a church of their own

  • airgrinder
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    • 08 Apr `08, 8:06PM
      Originally posted by mhcampboy:

      God blessed the church.... so why not....

       

      They build big buildings... at the same time.. big on charity.... y never talk abt tat?

      true, but if the big building is not as big or not as grand, more could be given to charity. I'm sure a teak wood table can be replace with a plywood one (example), served the same purpose, yet less than half the cost.

      but, I'm sure their members give willingly.

  • mhcampboy
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    • 08 Apr `08, 8:20PM
      Originally posted by airgrinder:

      true, but if the big building is not as big or not as grand, more could be given to charity. I'm sure a teak wood table can be replace with a plywood one (example), served the same purpose, yet less than half the cost.

      but, I'm sure their members give willingly.

      well, different concept....

      a church is just like a home...  u do want to come back to a home which is nice right....

      so im sure... church "family members" would want to go back to a nice home too...

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