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  • iceball's Avatar
    181 posts since Jan '08
    • Criminal acts: Acts that the police will investigate and charge you in court when they have enough evidence.

      Examples are murder, robbery, vandalism etc.

      Non Criminal acts: Acts that the police will not investigate and you have to spend your own money to employ a lawyer to sue him/her if you really want to.

      Examples are: Famous impersonation of Shuya looking for husband thread in sgforum. If you punch somebody, the police will not investigate even if the victim file a police report. He needs to employ his own lawyer to sue that person.

      Any more examples of non criminal acts?

      I am curious to know

  • Jem777's Avatar
    376 posts since Jan '08
  • davidnea3's Avatar
    61 posts since Jan '05
    • i thought that punching someone is a criminal act? to the best i know, it is a non seizable offence, i.e you have to get magistrate’s concurrence in order for the police to investigate further. wah lao. this one come out in papers so many times le leh.

  • Xelement's Avatar
    279 posts since Jan '08
    • my sch got 1 module abt dat one haha.

      gt learn civil law and criminal laws in lecture

      ok after reading my notes agn for a bit ar..

      civil law is more to compensate the victim
      criminal law is to punish those who broke the laws

      civil laws is abt the rights of people and their duties.

      eg : u buy a tv from a shop, but its not working well. u can sue the shop cos the law expects the shop to sell stuff of satisfaction quality to the customer. so u have a right to sue the shop. cos the shop not doing his rightful duty

      some are contract law, family law etc

      hope these helps Laughing

      Edited by Xelement 25 Jan `08, 4:32PM
  • <Precious>'s Avatar
    6,568 posts since Jul '06
    • Non-criminal acts are known as torts in law. Very Happy

      Examples are negligence, defamation, physical injury, property damage...... too many to list! Wink

  • Zarks's Avatar
    3,651 posts since Aug '07
  • smartboy4's Avatar
    1,728 posts since Jul '06
  • de_middle's Avatar
    15,250 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by iceball:
      Any more examples of non criminal acts?

      I am curious to know

      asking for HP lumber Laughing

  • crosshairs's Avatar
    610 posts since Mar '00
    • Punching an SG guy while you are a member of the US Navy while having R&R in Orchard road?

  • Jem777's Avatar
    376 posts since Jan '08
    • Originally posted by crosshairs:
      Punching an SG guy while you are a member of the US Navy while having R&R in Orchard road?

      I thought that's criminal, assault + battery.

  • crosshairs's Avatar
    610 posts since Mar '00
    • Originally posted by Jem777:
      I thought that's criminal, assault + battery.

      According to the official statement on the ST, its a "Non-seizable offence". The cops basically mean that you will have to settle this with a civil lawsuit.

  • Tiggerific's Avatar
    293 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by crosshairs:
      According to the official statement on the ST, its a "Non-seizable offence". The cops basically mean that you will have to settle this with a civil lawsuit.

      it is not civil lawsuit. basically it means that they have limited powers of investigation, and would require assistance to attain those special powers of investigation vested to them [applied for seizable offence cases] as prescribed in the criminal procedure code [cap 68] by way of the victim lodging a magistrate's complaint. the magistrate will then, upon listening to the merits of the case, decide on the next course of action.

      civil lawsuit is for civil case. civil case = no criminal element involved. at least, not 'criminal' as can be seen in the penal code.

      non-seizable offence = there are criminal elements in the offence. it is a penal offence, punishable by law. it is just that the Police have limited powers of investigation when it comes to such matters.

      basically there are two types of investigations: one is police-initiated, which is usually seen in seizable offence cases or those non-seizable cases of special interest, and then there are the public-initiated[or assisted] investigation, mostly dealing with non-seizable offences.

      people really should be educated on non-seizable offences, and what they entail.

      Edited by Tiggerific 27 Jan `08, 12:59AM
  • crosshairs's Avatar
    610 posts since Mar '00
    • [[non-seizable offence = there are criminal elements in the offence. it is a penal offence, punishable by law. it is just that the Police have limited powers of investigation when it comes to such matters. ]]

      Which means that what constitutes a seizable offence has little to do with the layman's understanding of what amounts to something that is deemed serious enough for the perpetrator to be detained, rather it is a measure of how much powers of investigation that the police has that determines when someone can be detained, which is written somewhere, and obviously demonstrated during the mentioned event to be impractical and unpopular.

  • corebooster's Avatar
    3,810 posts since Apr '06
    • VCH covers frm a small pinch of the cheek to a punch to the face.

      so if full police power is granted.

      u think.

      if i kanna pinched on my elbow. i go report police

      i kanna stamp on my feet i go report police.

      if some1 slap me on my back. i also go report.

      thats why a magistrate report is needed.

      if they feel the offence needs police intervention/investigation, they will give the green light.

      it is to prevent any Tom,Dick,Harry from abusing the system.

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