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  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:34PM

      Any thoughts on some of the more dangerous roads in Singapore?

      Devil's Bend is one and there's a fatal accident at Yio Chu Kang road today.

  • kopiosatu
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  • Pitot
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:36PM

      I don't think there are "dangerous" roads. Yes, there might be some tricky ones but as long as it is driven at under all safety parameters, there shouldnt be a problem.

       

      I do think that there are reckless and dangerous drivers though.

  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:36PM

      Didn't some drivers get into fatal accidents even when traveling at 40km along Devil's Bend?

      Sometimes you'll never know. Especially during bad weather.

  • Pitot
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  • kopiosatu
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:38PM

      how do u get into trouble at 40km/hr?

      even the military vehicles are set at 50km/hr.

      its really not the road's fault.

      i would say more of a user problem

  • alwaysdisturbed
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  • stellazio
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:40PM

      every road was built for men to walk upon. for every 100 drivers, there might be 1 who gets into an accident, and its not the road's fault.icon_lol.gif

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  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:44PM
      Originally posted by Pitot:

      Then its either driver error or mechanical.

      how to blame the road and the weather?

      Erm, i think road users and vehicle types aside, road features (surface + weather) play a role in accidents as well.

  • Pitot
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:46PM
      Originally posted by soleachip:

      Erm, i think road users and vehicle types aside, road features (surface + weather) play a role in accidents as well.

      Then that falls to the driver since we are taught to adjust and drive according to road conditions. I don't see how you can blame the road or weather?

       

       

       

  • kopiosatu
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:47PM

      like that, everything will be dangerous, right?

      doesn't matter where.

      if i'm at a winding road on a wet day, i'm not gonna take the curve at 160km/hr.

      it really is the user problem. they should go for defensive / advanced driving / riding course.

  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:47PM
      Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

      i'm still wondering wheres the devil's bend.

      I think it's located at old upper thompson road though never travelled through it before?

      While trying to look for a place the other night, almost turned into the spooky mount pleasant road.

  • Xcert
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:48PM
      Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

      i'm still wondering wheres the devil's bend.

      yio chu kang...last time SIM had a site nearby...got one prata shop just outside the bend.

  • sbst275
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  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:51PM
      Originally posted by Pitot:

      Then that falls to the driver since we are taught to adjust and drive according to road conditions. I don't see how you can blame the road or weather?

       

       

       

      There are bound to be accident prone spots around the island duh. Theory and practical different mah.

  • kopiosatu
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:52PM

      its prone because most singaporeans are idiot drivers.

      but there's currently no cure for idiocy

  • Pitot
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:56PM
      Originally posted by soleachip:

      There are bound to be accident prone spots around the island duh. Theory and practical different mah.

      haha. that i agree. but then, it boils down to human or mechanical error. ultimately, that is what accident stands for right?

  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:57PM
      Originally posted by kopiosatu:

      its prone because most singaporeans are idiot drivers.

      but there's currently no cure for idiocy

      wah so much gusto. perfect riding/driving skills ar?

  • soleachip
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    • 24 Apr `08, 10:58PM
      Originally posted by Pitot:

      but then, it boils down to human or mechanical error. ultimately, that is what accident stands for right?

      you can't be serious. icon_eek.gif

  • Pitot
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    • 24 Apr `08, 11:01PM
      Originally posted by soleachip:

      you can't be serious. icon_eek.gif

      Yea! Then how to blame road or weather? It doesnt work that way in insurance also anyway.

  • kopiosatu
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    • 24 Apr `08, 11:05PM
      Originally posted by soleachip:

      wah so much gusto. perfect riding/driving skills ar?

      would u like to have a ride when i come back?

      its courtesy and common sense. without these, u get your accidents.

  • Elysium7
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  • kopiosatu
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    • 24 Apr `08, 11:08PM
      Originally posted by Pitot:

      Yea! Then how to blame road or weather? It doesnt work that way in insurance also anyway.

      really bad weather, don't drive.

      want to be ultimately safe, park somewhere and wait for the rain to go... like riders do.

      otherwise, its their lack of courtesy and common sense.

      courtesy, if everyone learns to take turns and give way, you'll have gaps to slot into (try driving in brunei and see how that works perfectly).

      common sense, u want to attack a bend with rubble on the road at 100km/hr with a van?

  • alwaysdisturbed
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    • 24 Apr `08, 11:09PM
      Originally posted by soleachip:

      I think it's located at old upper thompson road though never travelled through it before?

      While trying to look for a place the other night, almost turned into the spooky mount pleasant road.

      wah, w/o streetdirectory working, damn hard to find.

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