Originally posted by OneStar:

 

Giving benefit of doubt, I believe there's someone who could have done it in VE. When i was inside for 2 weeks, i heard of a girl who got into bm in just 7 or 10 days. I joined around April 25th.

WSR, that only point was extremely important. If u agree with me, the 'salary' that you have got would be from those who have bought the products from you.

You chose not to lower the price when you could have.

So you are still considered to be like a sales(wo)man.

If you had not taken any commission, or the commission was actually negligible, would you then recommend the product since the product is (or claim to be) good?

You will is most probably the answer that you will give.

But you're a little selfish towards other people aren't you? People got to pay u commission for knowing and buying the product. -.- hmm... seems weird.

So let's say if elementalangel could get a matterress (sorry don't know how to spell) at a lower price than VE over the internet, can you help EA to sell the matterress (they are of the same quality) ? I believe EA don't mind you earning $50 commission over the queen size matterress.

Lastly, i shall put it in a more direct way.

I mean to say, because you're getting a commission out of the product that you're not willing to lower the price of the product when you have the power of selling it at a lower price. If you're a salaried worker for VE, you would have chose to lower the price but you may not have the authority to do so. It has nothing to do with people always want things cheap. (Both ideas are different, i am looking at the one who is selling).

so... there isn't much that you did actually to earn that amount of sum, i wonder where does the respect comes from? If you had indeed earn a lot, it just simply means that A LOT of people bought the "health product" from you at a higher price, where there is actually a way to get the product at a much lower price. Why not simply decrease the profit margin? Why must VE people earn so much from the product? I doubt you are really helping your clients...

this WSR contradicts so much, he does not even know what he is talking about...
its either she/he has a sugar daddy to achieve that amt in 7 days... btw u know how to be bm anot? u need 3 mm under u.. how to train 3 mm in 7days??!?!?! or even 1 month which is impossible

Originally posted by curiousity84:

Hey WSR..

U damn sure or not u achieve ur car incentive oredi...?? U joined this yr in 2008 and it just takes u 7 mths to achieve it...? Who r u trying to kid...? Old timers in VE also took years to achieve tat... Unless u tell me u got ur sugarmummy or ur sugardaddy to pump large amount of money in ur sales... Then maybe possible... But still i feel is impossible... 7 mths to achieve it is totally crap...  

Cos from wat i know, u haf to be a BM and to achive the car incentives there's 3 cycle u haf to go through and each cycle took u 3 mths... To be a BM, it will take u time also, dun mention abt the car incentives.

I think ah people like u r a disgrace not only to the company but also to the nation... U wanna defend VE, but i think u've make the name of VE even more disrespectful... WELL DONE!

i have done calculations he is there for a maximum of 5 months, and min of 4 months. so 1 month to be bm.. what a blatent lie

firstly, you claim that you had earned your 10k+ 2 months back, i have recently checked that you claimed that you joined your VE during 3.5 months before may 05. which makes it january 15 or so. you have lied that you were not in VE at that point of time .
that proves your credibility.

and even if you had joined only at 22 feb or so. which is not the case as you claimed that you are not yet in VE at that time. it took you exactly if not less than 5 months to achieve the car incentive.

and it means that it would only take you one month to climb your way to bm or bgm whichever it is.

blatent lies from you.

that guy you sued. i believe he is actually a clone as
1) you did not sue him as the judge would make him give a public apology at the forums at least,
2) its impossible for you to get the ip address as sgforums did not release it to you.

P.S. I dont believe in magnetic therapy no matter how hard my seniors try to convince me that it works. So, I dont sell it.
you dont sell magnetic mattress pads so its almost impossible for you to sell so much to be bm/bgm in one month or close to 2 months.

gtg out. bb nxt tiem den tell the rest. you contradicted too many times

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

lol elementalangel,

once someone disagrees with you, you call them brainwashed... That's so smart of you... Kudos for your immaturity! =)

how is it that my relatives are losing out? The product is beneficial for them... Most of the time i sacrifice my commission so that they could have the product for you... And so far all of them gave me good testimonial on the products that they have purchased...

I only take commission from those whom the refer to me... My relatives have a beneficial item, and i can have better sleep at night... Win-win situation...

Unlike you, .. Dont benefit relatives with anything, at the same time, burn your parents money...

P.S. How come your ad havent come out yet?

alright. i shall list all of your contradictions

one by one ok?

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

oh well, that was back then....

wow car incentive in 5 mths. or maybe 4. should really check this out wif my frens in VE

Originally posted by playboy_1985:

what is sibei urgent like until ur shit also touching ur underwear liao?

the aunty will say pay her bak later, then act blur or lagi better dissapear

ai yo.. 28 still young lady..

Originally posted by redstone:

If his passion is in mlm i've got nothing to say. But ideas that money is most important, money = success is something mlms brainwash into u.

 

I've heard some pretty interesting crap from a EY agent's desperate efforts to recruit me.

kind to share the crap? is it like what whitesoulreaper do to huzane?

lol whitesoulreaper is actually very very brain washed.. he thinks that he is doing all the right things and everyone else is wrong.. haha

what she does not know is that her relatives are the ones losing out.. and not a win-win situation he made out to be

please dont post the picture of the ugliest person u have seen in your life and claim that its u

Originally posted by curiousity84:

Ok, wat i believe is not all people who join VE can be successful in VE. If u r the so thick skinned type, then maybe u can be the successful bunch of them like Mr Dewey, Mr Steven and alot more of them..... 

When I joined VE, i thought i can be successful too... But saying is always easier than done. If u r willing to work the extra mile, making appoinments even at 4am, by all means go ahead.... A person in VE told me, in VE u can earn 20K in less than 6  mths... But that person has never achieve it til now... And still working til late hrs...

For me i'm thankful wif my current job. The money tat i earn including my bonus, i'm enable to save and reach closer to that amount in 12 mths. It might be a slower process but i achieved it.... But not the VE agent who told me earlier. Every person knows their own capabilities... If u think VE is your stepping stone towards success then go ahead, join the company... Be prepared for the obstacles ahead of u... For those who dun, no worries.. There's still plenty of opportunities out there...

yes. however the problem is that the agents themselves promise their downlines that they would definetely be successful as long as they work hard, which is very untrue..

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

Contact running out will be an impossibility... Ppl always make new friends, new relatives(family members married) and also there's referrals... Just need to learn how to do networking and one will have an abundance of ppl's contacts...

Of course at a certain position, one need not get the comission of their downline... It motivates the individual to work harder and not laze around and PURELY get commission of their downline at all times... So there's not much motive for the upline to be gd to the downline... Therefore, friendship in VE is sincere, not on some underlying motive...

Can you conclude your last point in a true mathematical analysis? It doesnt mean that one have not done it, it never will be... Look at the wright brothers story as an eg... Anyways, there are many overseas mlmers that earn 6 figure incomes every month...

Do more research boy, dont be too lazy and then callously make remarks baseless claims...

there would be a point where you get lesser and lesser people to sell..

the bulk of your income would rely on your downlines.

alright. when some one has 100 bgms under him den tell me there is not even 100 bgm in the entire VE right now..

uplines just rely on their downlines for cash.. thats all..
if you say that you dont rely on them for cash at all, kindly transfer them to other agents..

Originally posted by redstone:

 

Haha. They claim they have 5 figure earnings right? Ok fine. I challenge all the downlines to stop selling for a month, or 2 weeks also can. A week also can. Get everyone you know under the same upline, to stop selling for a week. See how much their income is.

Their income comes from you. Without you they're no different from being beggars on the street.

actually the outcome is obvious... they just cant selll... i guess after you work in a mlm for an extended period of time.. you wont be able to sell as much.. your contacts would all be drained. you can only depend on your downlines for pay. look at all the old timers at VE. who is actually actively selling? no one . because they have no more referals and contacts already. aside from their customers who buy small products regularly, no one would buy anything from them already. all they have left is their downlines for support.

Forget about residual pay. VE works in a way where if a person is in the same level as you, you wont get any pay. other than their managers fund and such..

So what u get is not an endless cycle of money. however you get to leverage on that person till he is maybe a bgm? which would approximately be 10-20k condsidering that   you gain only 5-10 percent of the points in your system.

forget about what they told you about retiring early.. there is actually a price tag in every one of your downline. the maximum ammount of money you can get from them. if you have 100 dirrect downlines. all of them could work till bgm, you would then be a millionare, other than that.. dont believe in any other self-proclaimed millionare wanabe.. do the math, dont listen to all their bull shit...

my protege r500 works fine =)

erm soul reaper.. why u link everything i say to mlm.. i just want to know the price for the cheapest water filters here for house use

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

We have the same ideology, why go against each other?

Anyways, I am still waiting on your 'big plans' to bring VE down...

If it doesnt work out, VE's door is always open for you...

i sell at an affordable price while giving them health benefits.. you make them pay through their nose.. totally on a different side of the line.

you are seriously pathetic in the way you told huzane89 dont tell him its his loss. you just saw the opportunity to recruit a potential downline.

for redstone thing.. it would soon happen, definetely

as in those water filters like diamond water and such

hi guys, i am interested in getting a water purifyer. can you all help me by telling me where to get one and the price range? a website would be very much appreciated thanks... what is the price like for the cheapest one in the market

eh seriously if dp is ur face.. u are seriously fucking ugly

He passed the seat to his son because his son is the only person he could trust that would pass the seat to someone who would rule the country orderly

Seriously. i do think that he makes some sense. Maybe its not now when Pap will die off.. not even in the next 5 generations. Why? everyone is going there, no one wants to join the oppositions.

the person hu saw is boy or gal?

21 yo virgin boy desperate to lose it = fucking ugly guy/ unsociable/ poor/ despo kia

but mine is a website.. and no a short one so... need something which is always there for people to see..

i got a fixed target of audience thats why busstop is better.. how much for the busstop ads? would it be expensive?