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The M4 is suppose to be an interim solution for the US... the ultimate aim is that futuristic OCSW or something.... the hybrid weapon which shoot grenades and a small caliber direct fire weapon....
interestingly.. the malaysian armed forces is ordering 14,000 units, that is not enough to equip the entire armed forces...
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It is interesting that some people here can consider using NSFs to run a Carrier Air Wing!
Think about it... the PRC really wanted a a/c carrier... and they have to buy hulks from Russia to 'study' and analyze and right now they didn't have a single carrier...
even the russians only have 1 a/c carrier.....
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Actually, realistically.... if any country tries to harass shipping in the straits of malacca... they can expect strong response from powers such as the US, Japan etc... and maybe even the PRC!
These countries have as much at stake as Singapore in keeping our SLOCs open.
even if there are these non-conventional threats.... it will probbaly be mining or speed-boats... kind of like the Iranian Revolutionary Guards....
I wonder how a a/c carrier could deal with mines and speed boats...
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enough of singapore and aircraft carrier discussion.. those two terms should not even be used in the same sentence...
Below is the list of countries operating a/c carriers... notice how few there are? and how many countries with larger GDPs and defence priorities, Iseral, South Korea, Taiwan etc etc... are not on the list!
even australia is not operating a/c carriers....
we recently tranistioned from a brown water navy to a force that operate 6x FFGs! and that is a huge milestone already....
and you don't need an a/c carrier to fight pirates, a few PVs with a 76mm gun is more then sufficient......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_in_service
Country
In
Service
Under
construction
Total
United States 11 2 13 United Kingdom 3 2 5 Italy 2 0 2 India 1 2 3 Spain 1 1 2 Brazil 1 0 1 France 1 0 1 Russia 1 0 1 Thailand 1 0 1
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I think the plan was to store in Guam or something.... to be transported to Singapore in an emergency...
as when the purchase was made the isn't any country in SEA that has this sort of capability.
However, after RMAF bought long range missile for their MIG29, the AMRAAM was released and I would presume that they are now stored in Singapore.
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actually 20 years ago, we bought the 4x F16A and 4x F16B...at that time, it was a 'breakthrough' to be operating such advanced jet....
who would expect in 2008 that the RSAF annouce that we are operating F15!!! which is supposed sooo expensive with 2x F100 engine each consuming twice the amount of aviation fuel as the F16!
I think by the time the squadron pilots flying the F35 are probably still in primary school, we will surely be one of the last buyers of F35!
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Hi,
I think it is possible that the F16A/B that we gifted to RTAF is more capable then the upgraded F5S.
The F5 upgrade is on the radar and avionics.... there is no engine or airframe upgrade. It is likely to be quite old in terms of airframe hours and is still powered by an underpowered J85 engine....
However, we have >40 of them....and replacing them at one go would be difficult.
we only have 7 F16A/B and have a much larger number of F16C/D. It makes sense to get rid of the A/B to standardize our F16 fleet... the RTAF have F16A/B which means they can be standize too...
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the only time when the RSAF operate one fighter is the Hunter!! during the SADC time....
and then:
Hunter
A4
post 1979
Hunter
A4
F5
Post 1988 (4 types!)
Hunter
A4
F5
F16
around late 90s??
A4
F5
F16
Present
A4 (training only)
F5
F16
Current orbat... from open sources:
F16 - about 60??
F5 about 49??
A4 about 10?
Total 119
After 2010??
F16 - about 60
F5 - about 49
F15 - 24
Total 130 a/c...
I think when the F-35 come on-line, some of the earlier F16 will probably be retired. maybe only the newer 145 SQN F16D+ with the CFT will remain.
F16D+ - about 20
F15 - 24
F-35 - 100
total 144 a/c... about the same as the 2010 total.
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Hi,
Actually I think Singapore is pretty well armed for its size. It is good that we have a conscript army which means that we can have a huge 'reserve' to be called up in times of war and at the same time doesn't have to maintain a large standing army.
If you look at the size of our neighbours' navy vs the amount of coastlines they need to patrol/defend.... we are very well armed indeed...
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If you expand the meaning of "purchase". I would like to say that the best SAF 'purchase' is the cohorts of NSFs that got enlisted everyday....
Why NSFs are the best 'purchase'?
- Paying them peanuts save the money to enable the SAF to buy those nice 'toys' listed about...
- Having the huge bulk of of them provided the SAF the manpower to build a ORBAT that is larger then what our small country can afford
- After the purchase are 'refunded' back to society, provide the SAF with a ready-pool of large manpower to man the expanded war-time ORBAT.
Salute to our all NSmen pass and present....
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