As far as I recall, DPM Wong doesn't personally ensure that the windows in the toilet are grilled, whether passports are screened properly, and if police in courthouse are doing their job properly.

In the same tune, I am also very sure that Army Chief Of Staff don't personally ensure that the solder drew the correct ammunition, ensure live/blanks are not mixed....

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President Sarkozy accepted Gen Cuche's resignation

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The French army chief of staff, Gen Bruno Cuche, has resigned two days after a soldier injured 17 people at a military show.

Gen Cuche offered his resignation on Tuesday to President Nicolas Sarkozy who accepted it.

The soldier used real bullets instead of blanks at the public demonstration at a barracks in south-western France.

Four people, including a child, were seriously injured in the incident. They are now said to be out of danger. <!-- E SF -->

On Monday, President Sarkozy, who visited the wounded in hospital, said he would seek explanations from the whole chain of command over the incident.

Earlier, Defence Minister Herve Morin called for "immediate sanctions... without waiting for the conclusions of the judicial and military enquiries".

The incident highlighted "grave deficiencies in the use of ammunition and in the security of public demonstrations held at regiments' open days", the defence ministry said in a statement.

The resignation is a measure of how seriously the French government, and in particular President Sarkozy, is taking this extraordinary breach of safety procedures, says a BBC correspondent in Paris.

'Unintentional' shooting

The shooting occurred during a public demonstration of hostage-freeing techniques at a barracks in Carcassonne, in the Aude region.

The sergeant who fired the shots is being held in custody and is expected to be charged on Tuesday with causing unintentional injury.

It is now thought he had held on to some live ammunition from a previous exercise in breach of regulations and mistakenly loaded them into his assault rifle during the display.

Questions are also being asked about the organisation of the event, in which an actor posing as a terrorist was positioned among the public that meant that the soldier was firing straight into the crowd.

For France, it is an appallingly embarrassing incident just as the country takes over the presidency of the European Union, with defence one of President Sarkozy's top priorities for the next few months, our correspondent adds.

the spoilt lightbulb. .. very energy saving

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Table_of_Drops

i think its that psychological effect you give if you pretend to aim at something even though you know you can't hit.

at least you can fire some pot shots and hope by probability some shots hit.

same theory if you are doing Rover prowling during operations where soldiers point SAR 21 outwards.. even though the SAR 21 is not loaded.

who here go Spa (not sleazy massage parlour) before, then not provided with disposables?

But they also dun expose you, they ensure you all the time still covered with towel except during that area being massaged/scrub.

where got so expensive $8.5 each.

Mustapha sell 5.2 each leh.

hmm.. 5 year cycle

wasn't it 5 years ago when the spate of deaths happened?

Originally posted by Resentment:

will this recruit have full military burial?

Up to CO's discretion and family's acceptance.

Red Leaf pen

dies out before the ink finishes.

Originally posted by club18:

was from sch 2.
today is my POP day..
morning as i was in bunk saw the heli fly to medical center.
then left bout 30 min later…
afternoon around 11 during lunch the flag was lowered to half-mast.
silence for 1 min.
sad for him though its my pop day today.

30 seconds or 30 min? it is very unusual for an Heli-evac to be on ground for 30mins.

My condolences.

TNI is a force not to be reckoned with actually...

if they have enough funding to start off.

Originally posted by edwin3060:

So so wrong... I had two fail on me on two consecutive days. Like anything else they require maintenance to function.

manufacturing defects. haah

but ya, if your compare them to the IVECOs, this would be much better.

the current 5 tonners..

they just dun seem to fail.

Ford branded vehicles?

especially the Mini-buses

and Cheapest tender construction contracts...leaky pipes,

11B stock computer system that did not get implemented.

SAR 80/88

Originally posted by Point_blank:

Your reply above to my post below:- 

"Next time if a son is caught and convicted of murder, hang the mother and father, afterall it's called 'accountability'. Who else is accountable for the son other than the parents? 

Is this the way this society wants - in the interest of 'accountability', hang parents for the wrongs perform by the child? 

Are we all so blind that we do not investigate if it is systemic or operator error and accord blame and punishment to fit for the correct person? 

So, next time you hear someone who wants WKS's head, take note, if that someone gains power, mothers or fathers may be hanged for the crimes of the son, in the name of accountability across the board, equal for all." 

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A CID investigation committee was set up to investigate the case.
And another independent Committee of Inquiry, chaired by former judge Goh Joon Seng, was set up to find out how the escape occurred.

Did they find Minister Wong guilty or dereliction of duty? Or are you disputing these 2 committee's findings? Think before you answer, for if you cannot trust the committee's finding, then everything that we cherished and held dear is nothing. Nothing is true anymore. Disputing means the police and the judiciary, legislative and executive are all a big lie and we are living a big huge lie. The people in jail committed no crime, there were no crime, contracts are false, the house you own is not yours, the clothes you bought are not yours, the education you received is worthless, etc, etc. Is this what you want for our society?

Someone made a mistake in not taking the necessary actions to ensure there would be no escape attempts possible - to build an alcatraz in whitely. He paid for his mistake. Who else do you want to pay in an 'accountability' witchhunt? The higher you go, when it was clearly operator fault and NOT systemic error, it becomes a precedent set and will be forever. Careful what you ask for, because if it is granted, it will be forever, in our equal for all society.

Shall we instead move on?

Move on to:-

a. Ensure an alcatraz is build in whitely

b. Support the hunt for Mas and others like him without let up,

or

continue with the 'accountability' blame game politics, which you or some others believe somehow will result in Mas 'magically' appearing before the detention gate? 

 

I never said WKS is supposed to be blamed or is supposed to be found to be in dereliction of duties.

I am more astonished by what the committee found. Since 9/11, MHA did a comprehensive review of all govt installations. many of the steps taken was to protect government buildings and restrict access to all government buildings

one visible step taken was public is no longer allowed to park within a government building.

But yet we have a detention facility that is so outwardly porous? Again, I would like to mention, this is MHA's third publicised case of escape.

The committee did find faults in the system. Punishments were meted out.

But are we told enough ? as much as the secrecy of ISD ops have to remain confidential and we as members of the public  have to have confidence in them, yet such an incident happen.

And when it happened, we just get the "due process" going and a final "let's move on"

Its like the NSF who escaped with a rifle, the official word is that he was missing as of 2359. All of us who served NS knew this is just an administrative time.... but yet.. the official word and the pubilc is informed he was missing as of 2359.

Those who are or were working for civil service knows too, how investigations are "really" carried out.

you book hotel with GF is to see fireworks or you have plans later that night?

i guess the surcharge is whne you check in, when they decide what room to give you.

Originally posted by kenn3th:

This is... hilarious. i did not even notice there was a soldier in the picture until i zoomed it.

Anyway, this sofa is perfect for SISPEC WOs who in outfield can set up a field lounge and have storemen set up VIP style dining area.

Originally posted by Point_blank:

Next time if a son is caught and convicted of murder, hang the mother and father, afterall it's called 'accountability'. Who else is accountable for the son other than the parents?

Is this the way this society wants - in the interest of 'accountability', hang parents for the wrongs perform by the child?

Are we all so blind that we do not investigate if it is systemic or operator error and accord blame and punishment to fit for the correct person?

So, next time you hear someone who wants WKS's head, take note, if that someone gains power, mothers or fathers may be hanged for the crimes of the son, in the name of accountability across the board, equal for all.

The son after he reaches adulthood, the parents pretty much leave him to his life. he murders someone, he is responsible.

If the parents grew up teaching the son how to kill, then yes, they should be accountable. (e.g. Anthony Ler case, although it is not a father/son case)

For WKS, do remember this is not the first time such a thing has happened. Since WKS has been home affairs minister, 3 prominent persons managed to give the system a slip.

The system had allowed a grille-less window, non-functioning CCTV in a sensitive installation.

This is a government contract, you dun just call your yellow-page guy to install a CCTV. Director has to submit a proposal, find quotation, and after delivery, submit post-comissioning report...

if cctv hasn't been working (in an sensitve installation), wouldn't a person in competant authority ask why there is no follow up in the proposal.

to all secondary school, JC, Poly and university students... next time when you don't hand in homework and the teacher asked why, just say, "this should never have happened, I am sorry it happened"

then tell the teacher that you will investigate why you did not do homework.

after investigation, blame your teacher for giving you homework.

Originally posted by HyperFocal:

... this topic has gone mouldy...

... the government medias have already forgotten the matter...

 

No not mouldy.. today's papers...

Will DPM Wong update the disciplinary action he is getting? pay raise just to ensure he does a better job next time?

How come no one seem to question WHY the camera is there?

I am sure the camera have been there for sometime

which also means, the camera have recorded the doctor with patients before it recorded the doctor with Joanne Chew..

last time my company got BMT bunk fight...

suay suay victim is a unit CO's brother in law.

next thing we know.. CDF ordered an investigation.

Originally posted by thehappybunny:

Parliament

I think Parliament is the place to fight legally.

as far as in know, in Westminster style parliament, anything said and done in the parliament while in session is safe from prosecution.

I am not sure if this applies to non-MPs.

1990s very little bottles leh.. but i still remember the chocolate magnolia milk in glass bottle.. but thats 1980s.

in fact they are starting to switch to the current day cans from the last time can take out tab can.

1990s.....

taking photos seems to be a very out of the league activity for us. want to take pictures must borrow camera from parents. then parents will say, "take good care of it, dun lose it, etc"

one roll of film about $12 to develop.

Originally posted by takahashi32399691:

I remember seeing signs that tells you that you could use your handphone in that area and payphones & phonecards were so common that you can see it in every corner.

I also have taken buses with those loud engines (replaced by Scania N113 NAC), SBS and Trans-Island still have those "OMO" (one-man-operation) and buses with sliding doors for the exit. Woodlands used to have many different bus terminals all over. Air-con double deckers did not exist then.

Kids used to have those tamaguchi, digimon and GameBoy devices with each other a lot. Oh, schools used to have those green blackboards that uses chalk. I remember dusting out the duster and playing with the chalk by drawing everywhere.

Back then there is Zone-phone, that's why they need to put signs on where you can use the phones.

I still remember ETACS phones are like $3000 each.

When GSM first came out, phones are $1500 there. And when you are called, you will hang up in 15 seconds, and tell that person you will call by public phone.

Vibration mode on telephone means you need to attach a vibrating device on the phone.

I miss my Ericsson GH 388.