http://www.map.gov.sg/StreetMap/
Input: SAF Driving School

Then go to http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/137692

NS Liabilities Related Issues 

Q1 How will my participation in IPPT activities be counted towards my NS liabilities of 40 days a year?
If the IPPT is initiated by your unit (e.g. during ICT), your call up is already covered within the call-up period as stated in your SAF100 served. If you book and attempt IPPT on your own at any of the FCCs or SAFRA EnergyOne Gyms (i.e. non-ICT IPPT), you will only be paid service pay (SP) and Make-Up-Pay (MUP), when applicable, for the first 3 sessions you took within the same qualifying window. Each of these non-ICT IPPT sessions is recognised as a half day call-up. Further IPPT attempts within the same qualifying window will not be counted towards your NS liabilities.

Q2 How do I prove to my employer that I am attending a non-ICT IPPT since there is no SAF100 to be issued?
With your NRIC No. and date of birth, you can log in to your NS booklet on www.ns.sg where your record of IPPT can be found. With this you can proof to your employer that you have indeed signed up and attended the IPPT. Alternatively, when records have not been updated, you can call 1800-eNSNSNS to clarify. Also, you will be issued an IPPT result slip at the end of the test session, which can also be used to confirm your attendance.

Q3 Must I notify my unit when I take my IPPT?
No. There is no requirement to inform your unit when you take IPPT. Your unit will be able to view your detailed results and training history through the backend systems.

Q4 I was initially disrupted and now I am posted to a NS unit and I am required to take IPPT. When will my qualifying window starts?
You can start taking your IPPT from the effective date of posting to the new unit. Provisions to allow the early opening of your qualifying window ahead of your next birthday. Any IPPT attempts, incentive award achieved during this early opening window is considered as within the same IPPT qualifying window.

The example below best illustrates this early window opening policy:
LCP (NS) Roger was born on 20 Feb 1985. After he has ORD, he was disrupted from NS due to ITE studies. After his ITE studies, he received a posting letter informing him that he will be posted to an NS Infantry Bn with effect from 1 Dec 2004. With the early opening of the qualification window policy, LCP (NS) Roger's extended window is now from 1 Dec 2004 to 19 Feb 2006. All IPPT attempts, incentive award achieved from 1 Dec 2004 to 19 Feb 2006 is considered as within the same IPPT qualifying window. 

Q5 If I am posted to MINDEF Reserve, am I still liable for IPPT?
NSmen who have been posted to MINDEF Reserve will receive a letter from the respective unit. Once posted to MR list, your status as active NS will cease and you are not required to take IPPT.

Q6 I am a DXO, can I take IPPT with the active unit that I am working in? Will I be paid service pay/make-up pay?
As a DXO, you can take your annual IPPT with the active unit. However, you will not be paid service/make up pay but you can qualify for monetary awards if you meet the required standards. The IPPT session taken with the active unit will not count towards the 40-day NS liability or one of the three self-initiated non-ICT IPPT sessions.

Q7 I travel frequently in and out-country for overseas assignments, am I still required to take my annual IPPT?
As long as you are still deployed in an IPPT eligible NS Unit, you are required to fulfil your annual IPPT requirement within your qualifying window. As the booking system allows for advance booking and booking via the internet, you can forecast your return from overseas and attempt the non-ICT IPPT.

Q8 What happens if I need to be overseas for work commitment for more than 6 months to less than a year?
As long as you are still deployed in an IPPT eligible NS Unit, you are required to fulfil your annual IPPT requirement within your qualifying window. However, in such an instance, you are required to apply for Exit Permit. As part of the application process,
it is clearly stated that you need to ensure that you do not have to fulfil any NS liabilities within the period of departure before applying for the exit permit.

Your IPPT and RT (if applicable) is one of such NS liabilities that must be fulfilled, failing which deferment must be granted prior to Exit Permit approval. You are advised to attempt your IPPT prior to your departure. If you are undergoing Remedial Training (RT), you are to seek deferment from RT, similar to seeking deferment from ICT. Hence, you will need to ensure this before you leave for work and assignment.

Q9 What happens If I need to be overseas for work commitment for more than 1 year?
You should apply for disruption from National Service. Once disrupted, you will not be required to take IPPT. However, as part of the administration to process your disruption application, your IPPT history will be checked to ensure that you do not have any outstanding IPPT/RT related offences.

Originally posted by TIB537B:

Hopefully it's not PES B. And no, don't view me as a chao keng person if i hope for PES C.

The Rhinitis the booklet is an information booklet, not on my health booklet. Still show?

double check is there any mention of  Rhinitis written in the health booklet.

if not, get a memo from a GP in the meantime, since ur cmpb checkup is on next week.
should a specialist memo is required by the cmpb MO, ask for the cmpb fax number at the counter, so that u can fax over the memo once u get the specialist memo after the cmpb checkup.

Originally posted by TIB537B:

edit - shoot, thought i posted it in Medical FAQ thread. ps. I'll leave this post here ba.

My medical's checkup on 11 Dec.So far the medical conditions that i have gathered info are:

• Finger had suffered Salter Harris Type II Ephisyseal on left little finger phlanton platix fracture. Will occasionally pain, and sometimes it happen during rain and cold. The doctor's report i recently got in Oct from SGH -> healed well. I can say that the finger have 90% mobility and strength. Some of my friends say that this left little finger is useless as long as trigger finger on right hand is ok and this will not affect PES. (Debunk this myth?)
• I have a booklet regarding Rhinithis that my mum got from the doctor when i was in Sec 1 after seeing the doctor about my severe sneezing when in dust/cold. Not sure wether if i do have rhinithis (should be, my mum say it runs on my father's side, and my uncle got PES C grading because of it) but i do sneeze in cold and dust, can turn into severe sneezing and runny nose for at least one-two days. Can i show this booklet to state back up that i am having this Rhinithis and see if they recommend me for a further evaluation? And if they say it's just common to sneeze in dust and cold, should i pursue further for a doctor's memo from GP?
• Eyesight of 800+ with 100+ or 200+ astagmism.
• Medical History - My dad passed away due to rheumatic heart disease. That time he was unable to serve the army due to his heart condition, I don't think i have rheumatic heart disease, so far all medical report states i'm fine.

This are unconfirmed

• ** Loud noises that are sudden can make me lose awareness of what im doing. Ear may ache when exposed to loud noise. My friends again say this is normal. So, I just tell MO?
• ** Leg joints at the knee, when cold seems to ache mildly. This does not happen frequently, and im also not sure how it came about.I think it's something like old people bone ache when cold that kind of ache. I just tell MO?
• ** Suicidal - So far, now i'm sort of ok. My friends told me that they observe if  i'm highly stressed out, i may have sucidal tendencies.

Do i seem like i have alot of medical problems? The ones marked with ** are the ones which i do not have any medical evidence, and it happens erradically that it may slip off my mind. This is mostly complete.

I most likely of PES C given those medical conditions not marked with **, and if it is, do i go to C1 or C2? L of course, nobody knows yet.

1) since the left pinky finger the specialist indicated that it already heal well, it shouldn't have a problem. it's a fact that if the rifle trigger finger is on ur right hand, it's ok to go for rifle range.
2) it's sufficient to just show the cmpb MO the page in the health booklet.
3) for myopia, there is a range of degrees for pes grading. just tell the cmpb MO ur eyesight degrees honestly.
4) though it's fine, just tell ur family health history honestly to the cmpb MO.
5) though it's a natural human reaction, just tell the cmpb MO honestly.
6) though it's a natural human reaction, just tell the cmpb MO honestly.
7) declare honestly and truthfully about this tendency.

with just a few more days, just wait for the day for ur official pes grading given by the cmpb MO.

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/navy

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/index.html

Originally posted by Kokia:

May i know after ORD-ing how many times does a person has to serve reservist generally , until the age 40? And also is bringing stuff like medicated oil into the army camp allowed ?

1) http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/323568

2) www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen

Operationally Ready NSmen are a vital part of the SAF and forms the core fighting force. Each year, you will be called up for in-camp-training for two to three weeks to maintain your individual proficiency as well as to build unit cohesion. Such training ensures the highest level of operational readiness in the SAF. From 1 Apr 06, you need to serve only 10 years of ICT. You will also be activated regularly for mobilisation exercises.

To ensure that NSmen can strike a balance between the competing demands of NS duties, family and work, you will be called up for no longer than the period required to meet the training objectives. While NSmen can be called up for a maximum of 40 days of NS in a work year, in practice, an NSman is generally called up for not more than 14 days for local training, or 21 days for overseas training in your high-key training year. MINDEF has also restricted the number of times an NSman can be called up for NS duties to a maximum of three times per work year and ensure that notices for call ups are also provided at least 6 months in advance of the training commencement date.

Originally posted by Seaside1234567890:

Dear Sirs,

I am a Airforce NSmen and ORD in Dec 07. My vocation is Service, Supply Assistant (GE). My PES status is B. During my NSF tenure, I was OOT for BMT due to depression and aniexty disorder, it was diagnoised by the psycharist in IMH.

I was called back for BMT PES B Recourse for 4 times during NSF time, however, I was still having this depression and aniexty problems and is on treatment till I ORD so unable to attend the recourse.

After I ORD, I still have on and off depression and axienty disorder problems and still seeking psychastist in IMH for treatment on occasion.

May I seek advice, Sirs, can I request downgraded from PES B to a PES which really suits me?If yes, how can I do it and what must I bring for medicial review then?

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/315224

Originally posted by mystiv:

cant find the link lei..

it's called eHealth...

Originally posted by yourmotherrr:

Thanks for the information. Could you please advice on furthering my studies (Degree overseas) if I were to sign on? When would I get to study? Right after NS?

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/schemes_officer.html

Originally posted by Kibukun:

I am in army now...

 

i replied to another person qn...

Originally posted by Kibukun:

Pls help me,

i was dignosed with depression(3 years) and anxiety disorder by a private specialist. he wrote a memo, abt my condition, such as frequent suicidal tot, rely on pills to sleep, wild tots, loss appetite, cannot concentrate etc... i heavy rely on pills like xanax to calm me down, and have to take at least 6 months of anti depressant. however, when i show the MO the memo, he said he cant read the hand writing and referred me to SAF psychaitrist. my Questions are,

• Is it downgradable?
  
• My psychaitrist say only saf psychaitrist have the right to see which pes you go to.
• Camp MO do not have the right to downgrade depression people, right?
• what show i do next? pls give me advice...

thanx.....

answered in the pes thread...

Originally posted by brdn:

hi, i was graded pes D when i went for my medical check-up and during my subsequent medical appointment with a specialist in cmpb the MO told me that he would grade me as pes C. however my pes status is still listed as D at the ns portal and i have yet to receive my enlistment letter, and the portal states that my enlistment date has not been finalized yet! (i'm in j2 this year) should i call cmpb to enquire about this?

thanks!

still in processing. u call cmpb, they will also give u this reply. just wait n focus on ur studies.

Originally posted by skyline2004:

Hi, I am a clerk now and will be going back to tekong in March '09 for PES B recourse , will i be posting back to my current unit after i finish the recourse ?

ask ur s1 manpower branch...

Originally posted by Kibukun:

Pls help me,

i was dignosed with depression(3 years) and anxiety disorder by a private specialist. he wrote a memo, abt my condition, such as frequent suicidal tot, rely on pills to sleep, wild tots, loss appetite, cannot concentrate etc... i heavy rely on pills like xanax to calm me down, and have to take at least 6 months of anti depressant. however, when i show the MO the memo, he said he cant read the hand writing and referred me to SAF psychaitrist. my Questions are,

• Is it downgradable?
  
• My psychaitrist say only saf psychaitrist have the right to see which pes you go to.
• Camp MO do not have the right to downgrade depression people, right?
• what show i do next? pls give me advice...

thanx.....

1) depends, saf psychiatrist compare n contrast the history n present of the condition.
2) yes, they will recommend the suitable pes to the MMI medical board.
3) refer to MMI medical board.
4) continue medications, continue both private n saf psychiatrist appt n reviews.
5) get corresponding memos from psychiatrists n hand them to whom it may concern. e.g. camp MO, MMI medical board.

Originally posted by mystiv:

how do i check wads my pes status?

www.ns.sg

no relations to future job seeking at all.

get a specialist to certify u fit, if all u want.
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/315224

then get already to be posted to a combat reservist unit as a combatant, if u want.

Originally posted by opcon:

oh ya,

Forgot to ask can fragmentations be so small that they cannot be detected by x-rays? will MRI scan be employed then?

Thanks.

just go n book the MRI scan appt...

Originally posted by opcon:

To all MOs!

I am diagnosed with osgood schlatter disease. However, no fragmentation is detected when general x-ray is taken.

I have OOC from ASLC for because of this problem. Currently posted to a sedentary role.

However, pain still occurs when i am running, going against gradients, up stairs and carry heavy load. Swelling of the tibia some times do occur, it will subside only after long rest and icing.

i would like to ask
1) If it is possible to down grade to C1L(something)?

2)Skip IPPT during my reservice term? (Because the recurring pain on my knee make me reluctant to maintain fitness and i will be dragged to some dumb gym and "training" sessions that will just prolong my misery)

So SIRs! What steps do you recommend i take?

1) as always, go to http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/315224

2) c1 personnel only can excuse up to 2 static stations only. c2 and below no need to take reservist ippt at all.

Originally posted by dadeadman1337:

Whats the PES normally for asthma triggered by cold weather?

minimum pes B.

within pes C range is based on severity, as supported by a specialist memo.

Originally posted by guoguoguo:

I'm pes E1L9,

I've had an eye op for a lens change thing before way back in primary sch, and also a cataract in my right eye. Have had perfect vision in both eyes ever since though. Also had no problems since the op, which is about 6 years now. I've also Napfa gold certified (full marks! yay!). The eye doc at the med screening said i'd definitely be a clerk etc and can't get any higher Pes due to the cataract.

Always wanted to be elite forces, so wanna upgrade to Pes A, what are the odds?

If i'm stuck in pes E, then what's my pay gonna be like? I don't wanna waste my time during NS leh....

Thanks!

the odds r not in your enthusiasm favour, since PES is based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS

u will just getting the non-combatant allowance (service personnel pay), the combat allowance is only an additional $100.

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/315224

Originally posted by Deceased:

Hi eac,

I posted about my knee pain some months back and follow your 8 simple rules.

The alexandra hospital specialist had written:

' XXXXX has bilateral patetho faunal joint pain. Worsened by running, climbing & lower limb exertion. Please renew his Pes & Vocation accordingly.'

Last week my ICT, i handed over this memo letter with my X-Ray CD to my unit MO.
However, he didn't board me for medical review. Instead, he excused me for 3 mths for lower limbs activities and IPPT.

When i asked him how about the medical board review regarding the pes status, he mentioned he don't see the need for it.

My questions are:

1. Can the unit MO override the specialist memo request?
2. Should i get another specialist for another memo to strengthen my case?
3. If the unit MO still refuse to board me for medical review, what are the options or next call of action taken? Mindef hotline?

Thanks for reading.

 

 

 

1) camp MO have the right to do it. BUT don't disheartened, just try n try, get a stronger worded memo, and book for another medical review again with ur unit medical centre.
2) get from the same hospital specialist clinic again. but this time, request for a stronger worded memo, just be brief n explain abt ur problem with the reservist camp medical centre.
3) persist n insist for a KIV medical board pending for ur case statement. just queue, n just tell the camp MO u want to seek for the medical board chairman's opinion.

Originally posted by kurashi:

hi, 

currently, I have been dignosed with cholinergic urticaria and acne by National Skin Centre and was given isotretinoin and loratadine for my acne and cholinergic urticaria respectively. 

May I know for my case, will I be downgraded? If yes, is it a temp or perm downgraded?

Thanks 

yes, it can be downgraded. just get a memo from the specialist to pass it to the camp MO...