english prob, pls help ;-)
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someone and me, someone and i (u put someone first)
but its either you or me rite?? or either me or my brother?
if its either me or my brother, y put me first??
pls help!
bo pian, i can't connect to chitchat, so put in this crap uni lor ....
wu 'teacher' bo?? -
there is no you or me...
always describe yrslf in such context as I
you or I
him and I
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depend on the sentence i think...this is what i have found...haiz just couldn't find if its either (me/myself) first or another person comes first....Originally posted by skeujin:there is no you or me...
always describe yrslf in such context as I
you or I
him and I
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between you and me
Between you and me is acceptable in standard English; between you and I isn't. This is because between is a preposition, and pronouns that come after prepositions are in the accusative case (here, me), not the nominative case (not I).
The same applies to a pair of pronouns that is the object of a verb: They've invited you and me to dinner is acceptable, They've invited you and I to dinner isn't.
The reason why expressions like between you and I have become so common is that people are aware that the accustive case is not correct for the subject of a verb ( You and I have been invited is acceptable; You and me have been invited is not), so they make the mistake of thinking it is not correct anywhere, and always use the nominative case.
If you are in any doubt, try leaving out the first pronoun of the pair. That will show you what case the second one should be: between I and they've invited I are clearly ungrammatical. -
u can choose either me or that boy to be yr bfOriginally posted by a_splash:someone and me, someone and i (u put someone first)
but its either you or me rite?? or either me or my brother?
if its either me or my brother, y put me first??
pls help!
bo pian, i can't connect to chitchat, so put in this crap uni lor ....
wu 'teacher' bo??
actually it all depends on yr context of yr sentence..depends on what the terms and structure u r using..ie...how many ppl,and condition.
better ask eng expert..haha
* ka ching *
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You and I wanted to go to a salon.
His statements were for you and I.
'Me' is used only when...
His statements were for me alone.
I started this.
This is started by me.
When used with any conjunctions to join two pronouns (e.g. he, she, you, them), the pronoun 'I' would be used.
When used to start any statement referring to oneself, the pronoun 'I' would be used.
When used in any part of one statement other than the first subject word, the pronoun 'me' is used as it is objective.
She saw me in there and I stood like an idiot.
Note that in this sentence, 'I' is used to start the beginning of the next statement.
There you go, anymore?
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for the underlined above, it is not recommended to use it in this way. first off, the sentence itself is inappropriate to show a second case as it is meant only for 1 subject (person). eg using ur case will be that:Originally posted by a_splash:depend on the sentence i think...this is what i have found...haiz just couldn't find if its either (me/myself) first or another person comes first....
between you and me
Between you and me is acceptable in standard English; between you and I isn't. This is because between is a preposition, and pronouns that come after prepositions are in the accusative case (here, me), not the nominative case (not I).
The same applies to a pair of pronouns that is the object of a verb: They've invited you and me to dinner is acceptable, They've invited you and I to dinner isn't.
The reason why expressions like between you and I have become so common is that people are aware that the accustive case is not correct for the subject of a verb ( You and I have been invited is acceptable; You and me have been invited is not), so they make the mistake of thinking it is not correct anywhere, and always use the nominative case.
If you are in any doubt, try leaving out the first pronoun of the pair. That will show you what case the second one should be: between I and they've invited I are clearly ungrammatical.
they've invited I to dinner > this is inappropriate bcos it clearly shows that the invitation is solo and even if its inserted with a 2nd party, it is not a fair statement to judge.
the appropriateness should therefore be that whether the sentence is written in formal terms or informal. just as in speaking to a formal meeting or otherwise.
in informal speaking terms, one may introduce the sentence structure as you n me or you n I depending on what is the nouns and other dedicating terms are used. coming back to ur eg. above (underlined) if one is on an informal speaking term, it is alright to use you n me. in writing, it should be you n I. the 'I' in this sense doesn't denote an accusative meaning. it is merely a representation of the person in a more formalised manner and perhaps due to the closely knitted Queen's standard (UK) with the Singapore's former english language relationship, it is taught as you n I, rather than the USA version of you n me. -
x2 i lazy to type out. heng got uOriginally posted by Nelstar:You and I wanted to go to a salon.
His statements were for you and I.
'Me' is used only when...
His statements were for me alone.
I started this.
This is started by me.
When used with any conjunctions to join two pronouns (e.g. he, she, you, them), the pronoun 'I' would be used.
When used to start any statement referring to oneself, the pronoun 'I' would be used.
When used in any part of one statement other than the first subject word, the pronoun 'me' is used as it is objective.
She saw me in there and I stood like an idiot.
Note that in this sentence, 'I' is used to start the beginning of the next statement.
There you go, anymore? -
hi nel,
thank you! but wat about the either? so the it should be either me or my brother or should it be either my brother or me?
i always tot in english they are humble so me or i always comes after someone else rite, just like when u introduce, u introduce someone first then yourselves...
unlike in mandarin,...i think its wo he da, wo he pengyou....its me/i first... -
hmmn.
but why this topic is in UOC?
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In this case it was objective. Preposition used before conjunction. Try using the word objective instead of accusative. It sounds nicer.Originally posted by a_splash:between you and me
Between you and me is acceptable in standard English; between you and I isn't. This is because between is a preposition, and pronouns that come after prepositions are in the accusative case (here, me), not the nominative case (not I). -
already explained, i can't connect to CHITCHAT, and so here it is lor....
but pls hor this is a serious question, don't crap too much lor....
thank you! -
Follow the thumb rule:Originally posted by a_splash:hi nel,
thank you! but wat about the either? so the it should be either me or my brother or should it be either my brother or me?
i always tot in english they are humble so me or i always comes after someone else rite, just like when u introduce, u introduce someone first then yourselves...
unlike in mandarin,...i think its wo he da, wo he pengyou....its me/i first...
Either you or I do it.
So, either he or I.
When possessive words like 'my' or 'your', the subject person comes first.
Me or my brother. You or your father. -
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this topic SHOUlD B IN BAR!Originally posted by a_splash:already explained, i can't connect to CHITCHAT, and so here it is lor....
but pls hor this is a serious question, don't crap too much lor....
thank you!
" my friends and I also think like that "
" i am handsome
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btw..
either u or me..
or is it either me or you? -
thanks skeujin,Originally posted by skeujin:
i tried but i cannot open a thread....
now i can't quote nel's new post....haizzz..... -
Nel
(can't quote your reply)
thanks....i think u hv answered my question....
so its when you have my bro, my things etc....then the other pronouns comes first....m i rite??
thanks a great deal!!!! -
ah kai,
so if following the thumb rules...it should still be u and i (others comes before yourselves)....
rite nel? -
thanks for yr stay..Originally posted by a_splash:Nel
(can't quote your reply)
thanks....i think u hv answered my question....
so its when you have my bro, my things etc....then the other pronouns comes first....m i rite??
thanks a great deal!!!!
that would be $ 50 pls..
bank it to my secre acc in the swiss. -
thank you....but your price not stated beforehand....i regret saying your bank shan't be rec'g any cent from me...
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eh..Originally posted by a_splash:thank you....but your price not stated beforehand....i regret saying your bank shan't be rec'g any cent from me...
thought u splash off d?
haha..
nvm
on the house..mossie and alex say this case is FOC -
Oh I forget to address another situation.Originally posted by a_splash:ah kai,
so if following the thumb rules...it should still be u and i (others comes before yourselves)....
rite nel?
The following is correct:
Between you and I, we must see who is better. (wrong sentence structure but grammatically correct for informal speech as the sentence tends to pre-place the preposition earlier than intended. It's like why you shouldn't start a sentence with 'Buts'.) -
another question...(maybe someone should start a English Clinic )
do you see where you are going or do you watch where you are going??
Wat is the diff??
i search the net, only found some exercise to do...
can someone help?
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isn't it the same?Originally posted by a_splash:another question...(maybe someone should start a English Clinic )
do you see where you are going or do you watch where you are going??
Wat is the diff??
i search the net, only found some exercise to do...
can someone help?
but i think watch is the correct term -
why??Originally posted by blackchickenahkai:isn't it the same?
but i think watch is the correct term -
well splashy...i can help as much as i can.......
" my brother and i" is the proper way to say this...(in the proper british style english)....or "me and my brother" is okay aswell....it just depends whether you want to speak the proper british english,or "todays" english. hope i helped..............