Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:no choice, they are not chosen by God
At least, you speak sense. In the bible, God mentioned it was not us who choose him but he who chooses the people.
Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:no choice, they are not chosen by God
so don't blame others for not believing in god because we are not chosen by god. so what is the point of preaching to others ? if the person is chosen, don't need to preach, he will eventually believe in god. if the person is not chosen, no matter how you preach, he will not believe in god.
one moment says god gives us the free will, next moment says god's will to choose. what is what ?
Originally posted by imacattt:I am the only Christian in my family. And there is this girl who has a very good heart and character, I like her becoz of that. I'm afraid shes going to hell as well. I feel very uncomfortable.
How do Christians cope with knowing there r many good people going to hell?
No worries.
There is another realm that I've read about which might be perfect for her to go to.
The wheels of reincarnation. There are six levels in all. To reach the highest level, she would have to be reborn again and again and work hard for millions of years.
After reaching the highest level, if she wants to go to the world of nothingness, she will have to work some more.
God is created and invented by man. you see the anger, wrath, favouritism manifested in god, so its obvious that bible was written by man.
Sorry to say I dont believe all non chris will go to hell.
Rubbish talk.
Originally posted by googoomuck:No worries.
There is another realm that I've read about which might be perfect for her to go to.
The wheels of reincarnation. There are six levels in all. To reach the highest level, she would have to be reborn and work hard for a million years.
as much as you ridiculed rebirth, but there is only so much that you know, no more than that. if christians dun believe in rebirth, why then you lot believed that when people die, either they go to heaven or hell, to be judged by god. isnt this sounded like rebirth after death?
Originally posted by likeyou:Sorry to say I dont believe all non chris will go to hell.
Rubbish talk.
it certainly is. I have a christian friend, ex christian now, he said he dun believe in hell. he said he is not going to hell.
Originally posted by Rooney9:as much as you ridiculed rebirth, but there is only so much that you know, no more than that. if christians dun believe in rebirth, why then you lot believed that when people die, either they go to heaven or hell, to be judged by god. isnt this sounded like rebirth after death?
You balik kampong with your loony9 paradox lah
Originally posted by googoomuck:You balik kampong with your loony9 paradox lah
so u mean after u die, how is it you lot is going to be judged by god, whether to go to heaven or hell? is this not afterlife after death?
you can troll, but you cant explain and justify as usual, period.
Note that the God this guy is referring to God of any religion.
Originally posted by skythewood:
Note that the God this guy is referring to God of any religion.
No but his not omnipotent (myview)
What matters is whether or not a person does something good, it is not something directly correlated to their belief, but their own decisions. Actions speak louder than words, and if you'd rather believe those people that are all talk and all over the public scene rather than looking at those truly taking the word of God and doing work in the background, then that is your decision, and your decision alone that gives you your view.
Originally posted by Rooney9:it certainly is. I have a christian friend, ex christian now, he said he dun believe in hell. he said he is not going to hell.
I heard one story from my friend many many years ago.
He told me chris go heaven, they all wear nice and beautiful cloths.
While those non chris go hell all naked.
So, I probably will join all naked in the hell. Shy shy...
god is powerful, but unable to prevent or avoid tsunamis and other natural diasters.
god is potent and good, but he is unable to prevent evil.
if god is truly compassionate, why then there are sufferings in this world? god unable to turn an inperfect world into a perfect world despite his omnipotence?
Originally posted by Rooney9:god is powerful, but unable to prevent or avoid tsunamis and other natural diasters.
god is potent and good, but he is unable to prevent evil.
if god is truly compassionate, why then there are sufferings in this world? god unable to turn an inperfect world into a perfect world despite his omnipotence?
Guan Yin is compassionate. She cried when she see human suffers.
Originally posted by likeyou:
I heard one story from my friend many many years ago.He told me chris go heaven, they all wear nice and beautiful cloths.
While those non chris go hell all naked.
So, I probably will join all naked in the hell. Shy shy...
these are unsubstantiated beliefs, not truth.
Originally posted by Rooney9:these are unsubstantiated beliefs, not truth.
200% not truth.
If non christian are going to hell, then according to other religion, no XXX will also go to hell, including the chrisitans who r not XXX as well. In the end, LIFE SUCKS LIKE HELL! Can?
Originally posted by likeyou:
I heard one story from my friend many many years ago.He told me chris go heaven, they all wear nice and beautiful cloths.
While those non chris go hell all naked.
So, I probably will join all naked in the hell. Shy shy...
Part of the reason Christians are so dead set on their belief is that piece of hope that they cling to. That in the kingdom of heaven lies an eternal kingdom, one that will not falter, because it is perfect, because the ruler God is perfect. Totally understandable, since it is human tendency to hope for a fantasy world which is totally awesom.
beliefs who are unsubstantiated, period.
What i am trying to explain is that it is human nature to hope for that to happen. Its a belief. Weather or not you believe in that belief or not. Thats why i say respect other people's belief.
Originally posted by RoyFang:Then stop thinking just because she isn't Christian, she is going to hell.
Change your mindset first!
I don't want to have this kind of mindset too. but its the Bible which says so. The Bible is the ultimate authority for christians
Originally posted by imacattt:I don't want to have this kind of mindset too. but its the Bible which says so. The Bible is the ultimate authority for christians
Do you seriously know what you are reading ?
Is heaven really heaven? Wat if i really go heaven then there no soccer see, no ps3 whole day see song hear mass. then i dun think i would be happy.
Originally posted by googoomuck:No worries.
There is another realm that I've read about which might be perfect for her to go to.
The wheels of reincarnation. There are six levels in all. To reach the highest level, she would have to be reborn again and again and work hard for millions of years.
After reaching the highest level, if she wants to go to the world of nothingness, she will have to work some more.
if you don't know, please shut up! what i have read is not like that. again lazy to explain to you.