One thing I find troubling about christianity is that those that do not believe in christ go to hell...it seems to go against the teachings of Jesus..any one care to elaborate?
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
John 3:36
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 4:16
All NIV version
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).
there's bible quotes to support non believers will go hell.
then let judgement day be here fast. we have been waiting and hearing "dun believe go hell" for the past 2000 years. wait longer will mean more people dun believe go hell and hell will be over crowded.
why not all christians pray for the early arrival of judgement day.
Contradiction! CNN!
Stardust, you think it is within the will of God that everyone be saved, not true OK!
New International Version (©1984)
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit--fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
http://bible.cc/john/15-16.htm
jiang lai jiang qu do shi pi hua! jiang lai jiang qu do shi shang di tui!
Crap, nothing but full of crap!
It doesnt matter if the bible did really say did or dint. But actually the problem is should christains go around promoting all these ? Comes back to my question, if humans are free will, shouldnt it be left to affinty to seek god and not the other way ? Should you really preech to non-believers and shove beliefs down their throat ?
Originally posted by TTFU:It doesnt matter if the bible did really say did or dint. But actually the problem is should christains go around promoting all these ? Comes back to my question, if humans are free will, shouldnt it be left to affinty to seek god and not the other way ? Should you really preech to non-believers and shove beliefs down their throat ?
They believe in selling their religion, faith, so we cannot be helped.
Thank goodness, so far I have been able to f them off.
god has wrath? anger? dun god is fully enlightened and compassionate? I was wrong. probably god is both god and satan. shen ye shi ni, gui ye shi ni.
how to command respect if the divine one has wrath and practised favouritism. just like mere mortals behaviour on earth. this type of behaviour is no different from one another.
anyway my stand is this, the bible is concocted and made up by unknown author/s in that era. the rest, as they say is history.
so they pity us for we are going to hell for eternity after death?
well to this, let me say this to you once and for all. I pity you more as you are trapped and deluding yourself, with the inability to see light at the end of the tunnel. so who is more pitiful?
it is beyond our imagination that after more than 2000 years we are still waiting for judgement day. will human beings continue to wait and believe in judgement day after 5000 or 1000 years ?
Originally posted by hasene:
They believe in selling their religion, faith, so we cannot be helped.Thank goodness, so far I have been able to f them off.
These kind of Christians believe if they become the no.1 religion, they are the greatest as evidenced by a certain someone in here.
Christians are going to hell...Cos they have no pope. They are just like some MLM company that dun pay taxes.
Originally posted by small-man:Christians are going to hell...Cos they have no pope. They are just like some MLM company that dun pay taxes.
who says, search the bible,
Originally posted by RoyFang:These kind of Christians believe if they become the no.1 religion, they are the greatest as evidenced by a certain someone in here.
quantity does not equate to being quality as someone has said it.
Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:who says, search the bible,
What are your opinions about the pope ?
Originally posted by Catknight:One thing I find troubling about christianity is that those that do not believe in christ go to hell...it seems to go against the teachings of Jesus..any one care to elaborate?
hmmm...
"I find it very troubling that if I do not grab the life bouy I will drown" says the man who is about to drown
"I find it very troubling that I need to take the exit to be safe" says the person who is trapped in a burning building
Its all in the starting point/ the current position...
your understanding : Believe or send to hell
Starting point = safe and well
Don't believe = punished, send to hell
Christ: Believe and be rescue from hell
Starting point = everyone are destined for hell
Believe = a chance to get out of hell
Originally posted by small-man:Christians are going to hell...Cos they have no pope. They are just like some MLM company that dun pay taxes.
Are you Catholic?
with so much sufferings in this world like starvation, diseases, natural diasters and the like, maybe earth is a living hell.
Dun believe then go eternal hell?
If you believe in the bible, it's true!
if you don't, it's not.
do u think christians are considered as extremist in the sense that they are quite fundamentalist on their views on this, especially their worldviews as such. clearly not everyone shares their same beliefs and views. I am not even sure if they even respect the faiths of others, especially since they are adamant they are satanic in nature. I am not sure if UFO's are considered as devils or satan, since we are unable to ascertain their identity. sigh, when you cant ascertain something then they must be satanic lol. this bothers on the ridiculous if truth be told.
Originally posted by Rooney9:do u think christians are considered as extremist in the sense that they are quite fundamentalist on their views on this, especially their worldviews as such. clearly not everyone shares their same beliefs and views. I am not even sure if they even respect the faiths of others, especially since they are adamant they are satanic in nature. I am not sure if UFO's are considered as devils or satan, since we are unable to ascertain their identity. sigh, when you cant ascertain something then they must be satanic lol. this bothers on the ridiculous if truth be told.
There are many Christians who do not conform to stereotypes, I can only hope you will be able to meet some from now on and beware of them.
Originally posted by Catknight:One thing I find troubling about christianity is that those that do not believe in christ go to hell...it seems to go against the teachings of Jesus..any one care to elaborate?
Many Christians (eg Catholics) have never believed this strange 'doctrine'. To do so would be to say that we are God, as only He has the final authority to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.
Jesus Christ has won salvation for His followers, but they have to demonstrate through their charitable actions that they desire this salvation. He is not going to 'force' it on anyone.
I have many non-Christian friends and seeing what good people they are, I am sure that somehow, God will look on them favourably when their time comes.
Originally posted by RoyFang:These kind of Christians believe if they become the no.1 religion, they are the greatest as evidenced by a certain someone in here.
So far they are selling their religion like salesmen and saleswomen. Like some salespeople if we do not want to buy their products they curse.
what will those who go to heaven eternally do there?
sing everyday?
sleep everyday?
eternal you know?