ok for pastor to live a life of luxury?
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Dear All,
I would like to hold a mini-forum for a discussion on the moral issue of allowing pastors to live a life of luxury at the expense of the poor.
Jesus said that one cannot serve both money or God.
One would only serve one master and hate the other.
but the pastors who are preaching prosperity bible have proven jesus wrong.
These pastors whom live in district 10, who wear branded clothing and drive branded car and who worship money, have these pastors lost their moral compass to preach?
There are many poor people in singapore. The money would certainly be better used to help them in their poverty.
I would also like to hear from fellow christians on the opinion on money and God.
If God do not promise prosperity and serving God means only poverty and hardship, would the disciples embracing the prosperity gospel still keep their faith or will they worship tua pek kong instead.
Feel free to contribute
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they will worship tua pek kong instead
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Originally posted by Cck689461:
Dear All,
I would like to hold a mini-forum for a discussion on the moral issue of allowing pastors to live a life of luxury at the expense of the poor.
Jesus said that one cannot serve both money or God.
One would only serve one master and hate the other.
but the pastors who are preaching prosperity bible have proven jesus wrong.
These pastors whom live in district 10, who wear branded clothing and drive branded car and who worship money, have these pastors lost their moral compass to preach?
There are many poor people in singapore. The money would certainly be better used to help them in their poverty.
I would also like to hear from fellow christians on the opinion on money and God.
If God do not promise prosperity and serving God means only poverty and hardship, would the disciples embracing the prosperity gospel still keep their faith or will they worship tua pek kong instead.
Feel free to contribute
can clarify one thing?
Do you have money? any assets? or Have you given all your money and assets to the poor yet?
Have you ever pray for a raise? or clinch that big deal? or a big bonus?
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cos is this singapore what.. if our MP can live a good life.. why pastor cannot..... and they will say church also need to retain the best talent to spread the words of god what....
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
they will worship tua pek kong instead
u sure u got the right photo? looks like a god of wealth lol
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Hi there, I wish to contribute to this thread.
God is never against us being rich. Indeed, He wants us to live in great prosperity. If you read the book of Genesis, God blessed Abraham with great riches and glory(Gen 13:2). He did the same with Solomon, David and many others.
However, it is definitely an issue if a Christian worship money instead of God.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10
This was what God meant when He said that you can't worship both God and Money.
I hope I've helped in answering your questions. I am not very good with the bible yet. But I can try my best if you have any more questions.
God bless.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
u sure u got the right photo? looks like a god of wealth lol
haha u nv see tua pek kong b4 ah
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Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):
cos is this singapore what.. if our MP can live a good life.. why pastor cannot..... and they will say church also need to retain the best talent to spread the words of god what....
pastor money is from devotees. the money is for church purposes and not to enrich himself materially.
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
haha u nv see tua pek kong b4 ah
how come got the gold ingot?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
how come got the gold ingot?
we need to ask the folks at sea of affinity. i dunno.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
pastor money is from devotees. the money is for church purposes and not to enrich himself materially.
MP money is from citizen. the money is for the people and not to enrich himself materially.... -
Originally posted by BanguIzai:
we need to ask the folks at sea of affinity. i dunno.
wrong photo lar lol
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
how come got the gold ingot?
more pics of tua pek kong
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
wrong photo lar lol
correct photo
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definetly not ok. but these pastors got so many stupid followers willing to donate large sum of money to them so of course they will take the money to enjoy life lor
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seriously... they never set a % to give when we go to temple hor... but u go church they tell u give how much....of cos they say not force one... but the peer pressure leh.... u go temple where got pressure?? i always never give anything one... cos i just go see see look look not to pray... hehe..
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This reminds me of a joke.
3 priests were talking about how they divided their monthly collections to God and themselves.
The first one said, "I draw a large circle and throw the money up, whatever lands inside the cicle, I keep. The rest is for God."
The second one said," I draw a line and throw the money up, whatever lands on my side is mine, whatever lands on the other side belongs to God."
The third one simply says, "I throw the money up into the heavens and whatever stays up belongs to God. Whatever lands back down to earth belongs to me. "
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Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):
seriously... they never set a % to give when we go to temple hor... but u go church they tell u give how much....of cos they say not force one... but the peer pressure leh.... u go temple where got pressure?? i always never give anything one... cos i just go see see look look not to pray... hehe..
Funny how some people think God needs money in heaven.
As though got condo mortgage to pay, car installment payments to make or monthly credit card bills to settle.
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Pastoring is a job. A job draws salary. Church donations are freewill and it is the main income to sustain a church. Where should the employees of the church draw salary from instead? A pastor himself can also open more paths of income for himself, investments, businesses, royalties.. etc.
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Originally posted by charlize:
This reminds me of a joke.
3 priests were talking about how they divided their monthly collections to God and themselves.
The first one said, "I draw a large circle and throw the money up, whatever lands inside the cicle, I keep. The rest is for God."
The second one said," I draw a line and throw the money up, whatever lands on my side is mine, whatever lands on the other side belongs to God."
The third one simply says, "I throw the money up into the heavens and whatever stays up belongs to God. Whatever lands back down to earth belongs to me. "
hahahhahaha knn.... -
how much does a pastor being paid at church? 10k or more?
church donations are free will? no tithes? no 10% of monthly salary paid to tithes?
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Originally posted by Great Heavens!:
Pastoring is a job. A job draws salary. Church donations are freewill and it is the main income to sustain a church. Where should the employees of the church draw salary from instead? A pastor himself can also open more paths of income for himself, investments, businesses, royalties.. etc.
The main christian denominations consider priesthood/pastorship as a vocation.
Something is wrong when suddenly words like "job, employees, income, investments, bunsinesses and royalties" are used to describe religion.
But I am not here to convert the misguided.
Really.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
how much does a pastor being paid at church? 10k or more?
church donations are free will? no tithes? no 10% of monthly salary paid to tithes?
ya very free will one... beside the % from montly salary they also donate "freely" every week.... then when u never donate anything... ppl will look at u .. and hint hint must give hor.. -
Pastor min income 5k..
exlude those monie they rev from overseas
seminars/which form the biggest side income
include free flight/SIA to countires
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
Pastor min income 5k..
exlude those monie they rev from overseas
seminars/which form the biggest side income
include free flight/SIA to countires
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5k?? u mean small small church right?? our CEO of CHC sure knn 20k per mth one...