Originally posted by iceFatboy:really?? Cool...
of cuz, its proven
Originally posted by laurence82:of cuz, its proven
Fanastic. Now we all know, ideas are cheap and execution expensive.
For fun's sake, throw u the gauntlet. Do it & Prove it? A 3yrs time frame? Enough? U and ur MLM brother.. Since U are so dead sure this is the path to many richness. Put up or shut up?
Some even own private jets...they are CEOs and run churches like business....
Pastors make more money than lawyers ...this is just too much and people are really behaving like sheep following every word of a man
imagine if jesus did that, wear nice clothes, drive big cars, stay in a mansion and cheer his congregation on, making holy speeches.
Can't imagine!
They are not pastor. They are professionanal conman disguise as one. They are merely following the footstep of their korean counterparts. In the late eighties & early nineties, korea has a so-called "christian revival". The korean go crazy over christianity. They filled the church everyday! Not every weekend. Their pastors drive around in Roll-Royce. Their pastors' sons & daughters in fancy sport cars! Here in S'pore, this so-called pastors are following the proven formula to brainwash, lie, cheat & con & get rich. They twist & turn the Bible verses in their favour and the people believed and obey and do what their pastors asked of them. They ( these pastors) will have their day in the court of God one day. They will be punish.
Originally posted by iceFatboy:Fanastic. Now we all know, ideas are cheap and execution expensive.
For fun's sake, throw u the gauntlet. Do it & Prove it? A 3yrs time frame? Enough? U and ur MLM brother.. Since U are so dead sure this is the path to many richness. Put up or shut up?
its proven by churches right?
Originally posted by Crispian04:They are not pastor. They are professionanal conman disguise as one. They are merely following the footstep of their korean counterparts. In the late eighties & early nineties, korea has a so-called "christian revival". The korean go crazy over christianity. They filled the church everyday! Not every weekend. Their pastors drive around in Roll-Royce. Their pastors' sons & daughters in fancy sport cars! Here in S'pore, this so-called pastors are following the proven formula to brainwash, lie, cheat & con & get rich. They twist & turn the Bible verses in their favour and the people believed and obey and do what their pastors asked of them. They ( these pastors) will have their day in the court of God one day. They will be punish.
nice, end of world as we know it
You guys got some fetish on Rony Tan is it ?
Or are u poor bastards a tad bit jealous of anyone that is rich ? lol Or should I say .. rich through religious means ?
Yes , some korean churches, the pastors drive fancy sport cars , thier kids in overseas live in luxury condo's and the likes, but if they really went against God's way, why so worried ? hell I even know some of them. But u guys dont know what happened to some of them didnt u ? Their material wealth counts for nothing when they are dead.
Are u all in some way personally involved in such churches ? Did they managed to "scum" money of you guys ? Felt the pinch ?
What about other churches that are genuinely helping those around them that does not preach the doctrines like those churches ?
You are all omniscience is it ?
They will get what they deserve in the eyes of God. You guys dont believe the gospels but seem to have a lot of say about it like you are all master theologians.
Jason, may you delete those Tua Pek Kong's photos please.It show no respect to Christianity and is offensive to christians.
no. cos it means they're not doing their fullest to help those in need.
never say pastor must live in poverty also. 5-room flat, toyota corolla, nobody will make noise. orchard condo with walk-in wardrobe different story...
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:no. cos it means they're not doing their fullest to help those in need.
never say pastor must live in poverty also. 5-room flat, toyota corolla, nobody will make noise. orchard condo with walk-in wardrobe different story...
God will bless the pastor if he live in poverty.Give so that others may live.The pastor will save more lives if he live in poverty.
Maybe churches will be public listed in the future if this continues
Originally posted by Filial:Jason, may you delete those Tua Pek Kong's photos please.It show no respect to Christianity and is offensive to christians.
now this statement is offensive to Taoists, pls delete this post
Originally posted by Catknight:Maybe churches will be public listed in the future if this continues
dun worry they cant. why cant they? because they are not for profit organisations or missions. the only way they can get public listed is to start a business or acquire other businesses, just like CHC acquiring Suntec Reit recently isnt it.
question is, how the hell has a church got to do with acquiring business or reits for.
Originally posted by Filial:Jason, may you delete those Tua Pek Kong's photos please.It show no respect to Christianity and is offensive to christians.
why should the pictures of tua pek kong be offensive to christians?
It has also been the government's stand that all the religions are equal and be shown equal respect.
It is inconsiderate of you to even suggest the removal of the pics.
Are the pics illegal to begin with?
they are just pictures of tua pek kong, that's all. why be offended?
I think you should be more open-minded and be all embracing. Don't be narrow minded. Be in line with the government's stand of racial and religious harmony.
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Originally posted by Filial:Jason, may you delete those Tua Pek Kong's photos please.It show no respect to Christianity and is offensive to christians.
now I know why christians are so ill tolerant towards other faiths. this just prove it.
thank you for proving it. another to add on to my conclusion.
Originally posted by Rooney9:its written in the bible. the only way he will change is he gave up christianity. otherwise forget it, he still holds true the same views as before.
not asking the community to judge him, but to condemn him as his actions was uncalled for and cause friction among other faiths and their followers. do u know that what he did was seditious. what if other followers were to react and do something stupid as a result?
ok your answers to my question as to why the community did not condemn the actions of Rony Tan explains why the community did not unite and condemn Rony Tan. If the community did speak against him, at least the damage done to the religion is not irreparable. so dun blame the non believers for believing that christianity is not tolerant towards other faiths and the preachings inside. actions speaks louder than words.
Would you quote the bible verse to me then?
If Christians unite and condemn, won't it be contradicting to the bible then?
"Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."(Matt 7:1-5)
Originally posted by Great Heavens!:Would you quote the bible verse to me then?
If Christians unite and condemn, won't it be contradicting to the bible then?
"Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."(Matt 7:1-5)
dun use quotations of the bible on me, for I am not a christian. you may use quote on your fellow brethrens.
I see. I see the message already. another to add to my conclusions. now I know why christians are quiet on this affair. thanks.
Originally posted by Rooney9:dun use quotations of the bible on me, for I am not a christian. you may use quote on your fellow brethrens.
I see. I see the message already. another to add to my conclusions. now I know why christians are quiet on this affair. thanks.
Cretin. Don't take questions from the internet to claim that it's your question.
The answers are also in the internet.
You are expected learn! Not wait for people to spoon feed you.
Originally posted by laurence82:its proven by churches right?
All churches?
its proven by churches right?
tua pek kong come in here see see look look also cannot meh? he come here learn how to run his temple more successfully wat.. cannot ar? so unfrenly one..... so me not a christian so not welcome here too?
Aiya, you see some sai kong (taoist) driving big cars, you see ming yi and his millions, you see CHC with the shit, why blame specific religions for causing these ? If needed to blame, blame on the people for their greed ness
The truth can be found by visiting more churches yourself.
In fact, you don't even necessarily need to visit yourself. You merely need to ask or talk to members of the many other churches who don't conform to stereotypes.