Its abt time this ORG gets investigated...
Originally posted by Honeybunz:
harnor harnor. Humans are easily tempted, esp once we have power and/or money.
agreed definitely.
Originally posted by A dot dot B dot dot:
Joaquim Kang was arrested. So was Mingyi.
they dun have the money to pay their kopi money wat.. u think they got caught just like that?
Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):
they dun have the money to pay their kopi money wat.. u think they got caught just like that?
what tokking u?
City Harvest members Yahoo! Singapore spoke to, however, are unperturbed by the ongoing investigations.
One of them, who wanted to be known as John, “I think its normal for big organisations to be ‘audited’. We will just have to wait and see what the outcome is from all this.”
Another member from the same church who preferred to remain anonymous thought otherwise.
“I think this is just another case of ‘cry wolf’, out to stir up trouble for Pastor Kong Hee, Sun and City Harvest,” she said.
The COC and CAD have given assurances that despite the ongoing investigations, services and religious activities of City Harvest Church will continue for its congregation.
http://sg.yfittopostblog.com/2010/05/31/city-harvest-church-members-under-investigation/
i believe that my church aint doing those things and i faith and i believe they are juz having some misunderstanding and i pray that chc will be alright(: so lets all christian and believers of chc pray tgt !(:
To Uncle Law,
Before any truth is cemented, please keep your comment fair and mature. I believe the church is doing a good job for our country’s community so don’t procrastinate.
Went to Pastor Kong He’s service once, totally honest here…he really came across as someone very concerned abt his outward appearance, talking abt $$$ $$$ and more $$$.
So i left. He even talked abt the fact that women MUST keep themselves attractive…it is their “DUTY” to keep trim and fit so that their husbands will still “desire” them…and if their husbands were to stray, it’s bascically their FAULT !!!
Anyway, GOD is watching us all the time right? So if you have done nothing wrong, no need to be afraid of anything or anyone right???
Good luck!
Been a “member” once, no doubt their sermon is quite good but got a feeling they are quite particular about money issues….Keep asking members to give and give, pledge and pledge, trust and trust…cell groups are also quite pushy in terms of committements to churh… Makes u feel outcasted or backsliding if not on enuff.. abit like being pressure by hardselling….Sadly, left eventually as i got more and more uncomfortable going there. Understand some of my friends there left one by one also…Not sure abt their direction and purpose anymore…
Those PASTOR is good in talking money..encourging people to join as members..donate 10 percent of their salary..if you do not join them or if you do not believe in the “son of god”..then you will not go to heaven but hell..very threatening..this is how they can people to believe in them..
Well welll well.. Devil is working on it. Know what.. CHC too bigger and many artist was there. Pastor Kong and his wife are too famous,
so no choice.. peoples start to judge. ONE WORD ”JEALOUS”.
We all are nothing and IMPERFECTION. Who are u there to judge anything..??
Think about it and look at yourself before make the criticize.
WHY NOT JUST SHUT UP AND LETS SEE THE CONCLUSION..?? AM I RIGHT..??
I believe this is only a misunderstanding and somebody is trying to make trouble on the church
ONLY IGNORED HEARD RUMOUR. SMART PEOPLES LISTEN, SEE & BASED ON THE TRUTH.
God will help CHC to proved to anyone who are make the judgement.
“I think this is just another case of ‘cry wolf’, out to stir up trouble for Pastor Kong Hee, Sun and City Harvest,” she said.
Originally posted by Rooney9:who are you to say dun close down? coming from the words of a troll
....and who the fuck are you?
the troubling fact is not that CHC is being investigated, but the reaction of the members
CAD and COC have every right to investigate an organisation for crime or abuses, whatever is within their jurisdiction, and the members are implying its a goverment conspiracy
somebody please call in ISD and have these people arrested
Originally posted by googoomuck:....and who the fuck are you?
no class, but then dun expect any class coming from the word of a troll. even calling you a troll is an insult to a troll
To Uncle Law,
Before any truth is cemented, please keep your comment fair and mature. I believe the church is doing a good job for our country’s community so don’t procrastinate.
Uhh..... to procrastinate means 'to needlessly delay something that you should be doing'. What does procrastination have to do with keeping comments fair and mature?
Instead of those bolded words, I believe he should have just said '..... so don't jump to conclusions'.
This is a case of 'trying to sound cheem but failing badly'.
Sounds quite serious.
The report used words like "raid" and "detained" and mentioned CBT.
Originally posted by laurence82:the troubling fact is not that CHC is being investigated, but the reaction of the members
CAD and COC have every right to investigate an organisation for crime or abuses, whatever is within their jurisdiction, and the members are implying its a goverment conspiracy
somebody please call in ISD and have these people arrested
dun worry. public opinion is more important. that just goes to show what type of church and followers this church has. how many members do they have? against the rest of the population?
Jesus finally cleans the toilet .
hope dat sun horse n her husband get arrest!
Originally posted by Rooney9:dun worry. public opinion is more important. that just goes to show what type of church and followers this church has. how many members do they have? against the rest of the population?
Talk as though it has cheated you of your money. Unless it's public money, how are you going to create a public outrage? Busybodies.
It's the members'money. It's not going to affect you or me. cretin!
Originally posted by googoomuck:Talk as though it has cheated you of your money. Unless it's public money, how are you going to create a public outrage? Busybodies.
It's the members'money. It's not going to affect you or me. cretin!
again coming from the words of a uncouth troll that is funny u know. your reputation preceded you.
Originally posted by Rooney9:
again coming from the words of a uncouth troll that is funny u know. your reputation preceded you.
hm hm....hahahaha
Lecture coming form a cretin!
Originally posted by GOD is my dog:i wouldn't be too happy just yet.
the Govt could be doing a ''fake'' investigation and then clear the pastor of any wrongdoing.
reason is this is a mega church and the tens of thousands of members will be difficult to handle if the pastor is found guilty of any monetary abuse.
the PAP will be afraid the followers will vote against them and also influence other Christians to vote against PAP.
in any case, i'm hoping that the pastor and wife will finally be brought to justice.
47 affliate churches ??? is it really run like a MLM or what ???!!!
you are right. i also have a feeling that it is just putting up a show to appease the buddhists. if only you know who are their members.....................................
Originally posted by googoomuck:hm hm....hahahaha
Lecture coming form a cretin!
son of the gun is barking woof woof
Originally posted by laurence82:“I think this is just another case of ‘cry wolf’, out to stir up trouble for Pastor Kong Hee, Sun and City Harvest,” she said.
They think the gamen very free to stir trouble arh?
Originally posted by Fallen-Angel:They think the gamen very free to stir trouble arh?
hanor
i think they very free to think of conspiracy theories
Originally posted by Fallen-Angel:They think the gamen very free to stir trouble arh?
you never know how and what they think lar. even if there were fraud committed, they will defend him all the way and say who never committed any mistakes before, to err is human and only god can judge him.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:you are right. i also have a feeling that it is just putting up a show to appease the buddhists. if only you know who are their members.....................................
i hope this is not the case. govt, use your brain! how many voters are there in singapore? minus 30,000 still got how many?
plus all the thinking christians who're rational enough to determine right from wrong.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:you are right. i also have a feeling that it is just putting up a show to appease the buddhists. if only you know who are their members.....................................
huh? where did you get this idea from?
& this thing happens right after Asian Conference.