Malay Christians Association
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Coptic/Easter Orthodox churches are common in Middle East
omg, this is too much info for them
lolz
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Lol seriously....... Just because you are a malay doesnt mean you have to be a muslim.
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frog in the well mah. that is the problem when you do not read far and wide enough. just like pasta lar, dunno the religion well enough to make a comment and make a generalisations and stereotyped. in the end, who is malu? he really make a dick out of himself.
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Originally posted by dragg:
are you a very young christian?
He is. He said this before -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
frog in the well mah. that is the problem when you do not read far and wide enough. just like pasta lar, dunno the religion well enough to make a comment and make a generalisations and stereotyped. in the end, who is malu? he really make a dick out of himself.
"frog in the well mah. that is the problem when you do not read far and wide enough. just like pasta lar, dunno the religion well enough to make a comment and make a generalisations and stereotyped. in the end, who is malu? he really make a dick out of himself."
Wah.. u also know not to generalise ah.
Good .. its progress.
How about Hasene... bully little kid Stardust bully enough already or not ? I dont know what made u guys obsessed about Pepper n Stardust.. suffering the same supposedly "delusions" as the "Christians" ?
lol
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are you saying your own brethrens and pastors as well eh, telling people in the streets that your idol are made of wood?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
are you saying your own brethrens and pastors as well eh, telling people in the streets that your idol are made of wood?
someone just intentionally misinterpreted.but it is true that the bible stated that idols are made of wood.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
are you saying your own brethrens and pastors as well eh, telling people in the streets that your idol are made of wood?
While I would say perhaps some, minority , many, most, subtantial, alot or majority, I am not sure, but I am sure that is happening no doubt. I am not omnipotent or omniscience , I do not know the exact ratio.Yes. Of course. No doubt.
Why they do it ? What made them preach the way they do ? The Whys and Hows !?That is another discussion altogether.
More interesting no ? Then giving advices to others when u should heed your very own advice?
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
While I would say perhaps some, minority , many, most, subtantial, alot or majority, I am not sure, but I am sure that is happening no doubt. I am not omnipotent or omniscience , I do not know the exact ratio.Yes. Of course. No doubt.
Why they do it ? What made them preach the way they do ? The Whys and Hows !?That is another discussion altogether.
More interesting no ? Then giving advices to others when u should heed your very own advice?
come one, you know the reason why they do it. let me be blunt. in their minds, they are cock sure their faith is the truth and all others are false. its written in the bible.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
come one, you know the reason why they do it. let me be blunt. in their minds, they are cock sure their faith is the truth and all others are false. its written in the bible.
If you have hard copy bible can go check it. if not go online -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
come one, you know the reason why they do it. let me be blunt. in their minds, they are cock sure their faith is the truth and all others are false. its written in the bible.
http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/29-17.htm
New International Version (©1984)
You saw among them their detestable images and idols of wood and stone, of silver and gold.New Living Translation (©2007)
You have seen their detestable practices and their idols made of wood, stone, silver, and gold.English Standard Version (©2001)
And you have seen their detestable things, their idols of wood and stone, of silver and gold, which were among them.New American Standard Bible (©1995)
moreover, you have seen their abominations and their idols of wood, stone, silver, and gold, which they had with them);GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
You saw their disgusting gods and idols made of wood, stone, silver, and gold.King James Bible
And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)American King James Version
And you have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)American Standard Version
and ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them);Bible in Basic English
And you have seen their disgusting doings, and the images of wood and stone and silver and gold which were among them:)Douay-Rheims Bible
You have seen their abominations and filth, that is to say, their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which they worshipped. -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
come one, you know the reason why they do it. let me be blunt. in their minds, they are cock sure their faith is the truth and all others are false. its written in the bible.
Why ? If they are not COCK SURE their faith is the truth.. then what the fuck are they even doing in the first place ?Maybe ur issue is regarding the WAY they presented thier sermons and how it was directed at other religion, now that would be a better question.
Why nobody scold the Muslims ? I am sure they regard the Quran as.. THE TRUTH, but just because they speak in arabic doesnt mean they never dissed another religion yes ? Or perhaps you guys just bully the weak , kind and easy.. while u fear the extremist suicide terrorists ? lol
The problem is not about them not dissing anothe religion, its more like you do not have the mental capacity to even factor that in, oh.. and also because u dont know Arabic, unless u are going to claim to be psychic.. or perhaps even an omniscience ?
U noticed ? U need to use ur brain abit.. or else, like how Stardust is to Hasene, a wind.. its exactly how you are to me in this regard, a small wind too. See the analogy ?
Notice ur questions are a bit.. silly ?
If they dont follow the bible, you guys will equally bitch n rant that.. "Ooh... u are supposed to obey the bible...ya da ya da"
There is understanding..
and there is opposing something because u simply.. just being .. intolerent , small minded and hateful.
Simple.
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if every religion in this world regards their faith as the truths, how many truths you think we have, period.
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Well, it depends how I will categorise them. Its in my opinion that Truth is absolute. Its existence is absolute.
We have alot of other kinds of "truth"
It also will depend what ur perception of truth is.
Some , thinks that true = truth.
So, what is truth to you ? Dont u have ur own truth ?
If they truly believe thier truth is THE TRUTH, then so be it. Why attack thier truth like how u attack other peoples perception of thier truth ?
And u suppsoedly claim to be the tolerent one ? lol.. come on man.
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erm you doesnt seem to answer my question, but never mind that.
you said absolute as truth, yes, but how many absolutes you wish to have given the many religions in this world. all regarded their faith to be absolutes. how do u determine which faiths among all the religions the world has, is the absolute?
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The question is answered. But u cant see it. Maybe you chose not to see it.
Like I said already, what is .. "truth" ? It may be different from mine. And for that I cannot say what is the number of "truths" there will be.
What is truth to you ?
I dont know. I am not God, not omniscience. Are you ?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
erm you doesnt seem to answer my question, but never mind that.
you said absolute as truth, yes, but how many absolutes you wish to have given the many religions in this world. all regarded their faith to be absolutes. how do u determine which faiths among all the religions the world has, is the absolute?
"how do u determine which faiths among all the religions the world has, is the absolute?"I dont. I cant.
Who am I to say that thiers is not the absolute truth ?
Maybe to devout Christians, there is no question that thier truth.. is THE truth.
Muslims claim that. Buddhism claims the truth also. Hindu.. etc etc
What if we were all wrong ?
BUT
What if.. we are all right ?
Think out of the box. The endless possibilties there.
But you cannot be as undecisive in life as you are of your faith.
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There are malay christian groups around. I know some of them. And O I married one of them ^^V
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Originally posted by TTFU:
I did mention about the concept of truth and especially the example of gravity.Most of the time the confusion is in the meaning of truth. The meaning of truth has been diluted and has a few meanigs in the dictionary. The problem always begins in ones definition of that truth.
Anyways, its pretty funny. lol
But of course there will be people who disagree. But the rational ones are the ones that agree in disagreeing.
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frankly, we cant rule out the possibility there is a god.
the only sure thing in this world is nothing is for sure.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
if every religion in this world regards their faith as the truths, how many truths you think we have, period.
All religion will consider itself to be the truth.
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Originally posted by dragg:
are you a very young christian?
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This is dependable on the person on which religion he wants to follow. Besides, end of the day, it's his relations with GOD. He's answerable to his/her own deeds. I'm a muslim and there is a verse in the Quran that states (bismillah) ''THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN THE RELIGION" (amin) Qur'an Surah 2 (Al-Baqarah) verse 256. You can double check it using the QuranExplorer website.
As a malay, we are not fully aware of this in Singapore but in Malaysia and sadly, in the Arabian nations, we are. Just because he's an Arab, does it means that he's a muslim? No.
Sadly, there are numerous ustaz(religious teachers) in the arabian peninsula which from my view went agaisnt the verse i quoted earlier.
Also, the reason why muslim covnert to christianity thru observation is because of misunderstanding of the quran and it's teachings. They think that the Quran preaches jihad and in actual fact it is true but not really. You have to study the historical timeline of the events that took place when the Quran was being delivered to Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. At that time, the muslims in Mecca were facing adverse suffering and torture by the idol worshippers (Quraish). Also, the Quraish wanted a war agaisnt Islam (REAL WAR with bloodshed) and with the permission of GOD, the Muslims went to war in defence.
This goes to a verse in the Quran which i quoted from a video answer by Dr. Yusuf Estes, a Muslim convert from christianity. ''Attack them (enemy) if they attack you. Otherwise, you are the trangessor (guilty party). If they stop, you stop"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRzWpR8pUM
As mentioned by Dr. Estes, there is translation misunderstandings. Do view this video if you want a cleare picture. I find this beneficial regardless if you are Muslim, Jew or Christian or even any religion you follow.
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There is this couple who converted from Islam to become christians in my ex church./ They shared their experience, really an unpleasant one. I doubt there is any malay christian association here.
