YOG is to honour Greek gods
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Fire has always played an important and symbolic role in our history because of its divine origins and the sacred element associated with it. For these reasons, the Greeks maintained consistent fires in front of their principle temples in ancient Greece. This was also the case in the sanctuary of Olympia, where the Ancient Olympic Games took place. The flame was lit using an ancient method where the rays of the sun are reflected in a skaphia, the ancestor of the parabolic mirror used today for lighting the Olympic flame.
The modern Olympic flame is ignited in Olympia at the site where the temple of Hera used to stand, by an actress playing the part of the High Priestess using the same ancient method. It serves as a reminder of how fires were lit on the altars of Greek gods and goddesses to honour them.
Above is taken from YOG official website :
http://www.singapore2010.sg/public/sg2010/en/en_youth_olympic_flame/en_history.html
So the YOG is to honour Greek gods...... So should Christians (and Muslims) participate in the YOG?
What do you think?
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Fire is important to chinese people. We burn stuff as offering to the dead.
So yeah, all christian should avoid YOG. and fire. and non-christians. seriously, just stay at home, away from everyone else. If you live in HDB, jump out of the windows, there are too many hindus, muslim and buddhist around.
Remember, Christianity is about sharing, giving, and zero tolerance to non-christians.
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Lol trolled
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Remember, Christianity is about sharing, giving, and zero tolerance to non-christians.
I would you sooner get picked up by the ISD for such statements!
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Originally posted by Fenixx:
I would you sooner get picked up by the ISD for such statements!
If ISD so hardworking, this forum won't be so active with trolls. -
Originally posted by skythewood:
Fire is important to chinese people. We burn stuff as offering to the dead.
So yeah, all christian should avoid YOG. and fire. and non-christians. seriously, just stay at home, away from everyone else. If you live in HDB, jump out of the windows, there are too many hindus, muslim and buddhist around.
Remember, Christianity is about sharing, giving, and zero tolerance to non-christians.
Firstly, I think you know that is a sweeping statement by yourself. If you don't then I really hope you come to realise that it is.
And what is this thing about fire being important to chinese people hence Christians should aboid fire? Being a Christian or non-Christian is not about race. In fact, so is the case for many other beliefs and religions.
I really hope that you will meet more Christians who do not conform to your stereotypes. Just as importantly I hope you are aware and realise of such Christians around you.
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Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:
Firstly, I think you know that is a sweeping statement by yourself. If you don't then I really hope you come to realise that it is.
And what is this thing about fire being important to chinese people hence Christians should aboid fire? Being a Christian or non-Christian is not about race. In fact, so is the case for many other beliefs and religions.
I really hope that you will meet more Christians who do not conform to your stereotypes. Just as importantly I hope you are aware and realise of such Christians around you.
So what has sports got to do with religion ? And in the other thread, music got to do with religion
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Fire is important to chinese people. We burn stuff as offering to the dead.
So yeah, all christian should avoid YOG. and fire. and non-christians. seriously, just stay at home, away from everyone else. If you live in HDB, jump out of the windows, there are too many hindus, muslim and buddhist around.
Remember, Christianity is about sharing, giving, and zero tolerance to non-christians.
Sorry to say but you have violated the censorship laws in singapore because you posted something that can cause conflict within Singapore's multi-racial community. You should really ask a priest/pastor/ustaz/imam about this. We as normal human beings might not know whether it's permitted in religion or not.
From my view as a muslim, i don't think it's restricted as long as we know that we are not worshipping a different god from the one and true god that we truly worship. But i do have to argue with my own statement because some people might find it illogical as let's say if i'm muslim and i offer prayers to an idol (worshiping idol), it's a major sin and it's truly offensive to religion. If for YOG's case, if i carry the torch around the island, would you say i worship greek gods? It all comes down to intention and this applies to the policy of GOD KNOWS BEST!
For TTFU's case, in Islam, music is a hot debate that still rages today. You can search on the permissibility of music in Islam but best you apporach a religious expert in this issue because there is no clear rulling on music. Some say is forbidden, some say is discouraged but all we know is, it's a hot topic.
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Originally posted by tintinspartan:
Sorry to say but you have violated the censorship laws in singapore because you posted something that can cause conflict within Singapore's multi-racial community. You should really ask a priest/pastor/ustaz/imam about this. We as normal human beings might not know whether it's permitted in religion or not.
From my view as a muslim, i don't think it's restricted as long as we know that we are not worshipping a different god from the one and true god that we truly worship. But i do have to argue with my own statement because some people might find it illogical as let's say if i'm muslim and i offer prayers to an idol (worshiping idol), it's a major sin and it's truly offensive to religion. If for YOG's case, if i carry the torch around the island, would you say i worship greek gods? It all comes down to intention and this applies to the policy of GOD KNOWS BEST!
For TTFU's case, in Islam, music is a hot debate that still rages today. You can search on the permissibility of music in Islam but best you apporach a religious expert in this issue because there is no clear rulling on music. Some say is forbidden, some say is discouraged but all we know is, it's a hot topic.
Thanks for this, what you say is true, sometimes it may not be your intention but the thing is how other people view it as such.
Just to share a story, once there were two monks travelling together, a senior monk and a younger monk. They came to a river that was waist deep and with rushing waters.
Beside the river was a woman. She was weak in body and had to travel across the river. As she could not do it on her own, she asked the senior monk to help carry her across. The senior monk agreed and helped her across by carrying her. Seeing this the younger monk was deeply angry with the senior monk.
After crossing the river the woman said goodbye to the two monks and went on their way.
The two monks continued to travel on their own way, and all the while the younger monk had a scowl and infuriated look on his face. The older monk sensing the younger monks displeasure asked after a long while why the younger monk was so unhappy.
"You as a monk should not lay your hands on a woman," shouted the younger monk. "Yet you not only touched the woman and carried her as well. Do you not feel ashamed?"
The older monk replied,"I stopped carrying the woman after the river already, why are you still carrying her inside your heart?"
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as a Chinese, i refuse to participate in a Greek game
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Originally posted by Fenixx:
I would you sooner get picked up by the ISD for such statements!
And I would you sooner construct a proper sentence in english.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Fire is important to chinese people. We burn stuff as offering to the dead.
So yeah, all christian should avoid YOG. and fire. and non-christians. seriously, just stay at home, away from everyone else. If you live in HDB, jump out of the windows, there are too many hindus, muslim and buddhist around.
Remember, Christianity is about sharing, giving, and zero tolerance to non-christians.
christians, in return, will tolerate your statements
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Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:
Firstly, I think you know that is a sweeping statement by yourself. If you don't then I really hope you come to realise that it is.
And what is this thing about fire being important to chinese people hence Christians should aboid fire? Being a Christian or non-Christian is not about race. In fact, so is the case for many other beliefs and religions.
I really hope that you will meet more Christians who do not conform to your stereotypes. Just as importantly I hope you are aware and realise of such Christians around you.
First, you don't follow the logic of Threadstarter. He says christian should avoid YOG because of the fire thing. Building on that logic, I pointed out to him that he should stay at home.
2nd, I meet lots of Christians who are smart enough to see who is the one stating the stupidity logic, and who is making fun of the guy stating the stupidity logic.
3rd, You totally ignoring your Christian Thread starter who suggest that Christian should avoid YOG fire, and focus all your flame on me. Ask yourself why, and be aware that there are Christians who are more fair and just than you, who don't blindly protect fellow christians.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
First, you don't follow the logic of Threadstarter. He says christian should avoid YOG because of the fire thing. Building on that logic, I pointed out to him that he should stay at home.
2nd, I meet lots of Christians who are smart enough to see who is the one stating the stupidity logic, and who is making fun of the guy stating the stupidity logic.
3rd, You totally ignoring your Christian Thread starter who suggest that Christian should avoid YOG fire, and focus all your flame on me. Ask yourself why, and be aware that there are Christians who are more fair and just than you, who don't blindly protect fellow christians.
precisely
i have been saying this, hypocrites such as these ONLY flame non-christians even if their fellow mates been committing wrong in front of them
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Originally posted by laurence82:
christians, in return, will tolerate your statements
Nah, that will be too logical for them.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
First, you don't follow the logic of Threadstarter. He says christian should avoid YOG because of the fire thing. Building on that logic, I pointed out to him that he should stay at home.
2nd, I meet lots of Christians who are smart enough to see who is the one stating the stupidity logic, and who is making fun of the guy stating the stupidity logic.
3rd, You totally ignoring your Christian Thread starter who suggest that Christian should avoid YOG fire, and focus all your flame on me. Ask yourself why, and be aware that there are Christians who are more fair and just than you, who don't blindly protect fellow christians.
Yes, I ignored him coz he was nonsensical. However, I was more interested in replying tintinspartan with that post of mine you quoted.
As for my post to you, well maybe you would like to comment on that post specifically if you have disagreements about it?
I didn't even particular remember that post, I only wanted to point out to you certain things that's all.
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Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:
Yes, I ignored him coz he was nonsensical. However, I was more interested in replying tintinspartan with that post of mine I quoted.
As for my post to you, well maybe you would like to comment on that post specifically if you have disagreements about it?
I didn't even particular remember that post, I only wanted to point out to you certain things that's all.
u are only interested in flaming non christians
every christian who made such remarks are dismissed as lunatic, move on, forgiven
how hypocritical
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Nah, that will be too logical for them.
Too logical for all Christians or some?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
u are only interested in flaming non christians
every christian who made such remarks are dismissed as lunatic, move on, forgiven
how hypocritical
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So you guys consider my post to skythewood a flame? I'm willing to address that now though.
I was trying to do that anyway before Laurence started linking to here as his evidence of me trolling.
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Originally posted by hasene:
I concurI have made some posts to you in the other threads, would welcome your replies.
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address is no point
who ever listen to someone who keep giving excuses to whatever he do, while questioning everyone else intention?
u are the biggest liar, hypocrite and slyest person i seen around
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Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:
Yes, I ignored him coz he was nonsensical. However, I was more interested in replying tintinspartan with that post of mine you quoted.
As for my post to you, well maybe you would like to comment on that post specifically if you have disagreements about it?
I didn't even particular remember that post, I only wanted to point out to you certain things that's all.
The post of yours that i quoted is posted 4.59pm 28 june.
Tintinspartan first posted in this thread 10.16am 29 june.
Please explain.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
address is no point
who ever listen to someone who keep giving excuses to whatever he do, while questioning everyone else intention?
u are the biggest liar, hypocrite and slyest person i seen around
The irony of your comments.
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Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:
The irony of your comments.
the irony of my comments backed up by evidence in this topic
well done