Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
share your experience. does it make sense to you ?
some parts don't sound reasonable to be frank. When I asked other christians abt my doubts, they agreed with me but said we should not question God.
Originally posted by laurence82:disney cartoons are nice
ya, especially mickey mouse hee and the dogdog gang live on this forum!
to imacatt
so the question is do we have to understand everything before we can believe in God? if we noe/understand everything, is that still called a belief? faith would no longer be required...
u observe life around u, u will find things which we do not fully understand yet we still believe in them...one classis example is love...who can claim to fully understand it? yet we do have ppl believing in love despite not having complete understanding of it...
Originally posted by imacattt:some parts don't sound reasonable to be frank. When I asked other christians abt my doubts, they agreed with me but said we should not question God.
of course cannot question God mah.................otherwise mah find lagi more loopholes.............makes you wonder why not to question if the damn thing is ''supposed'' to be true.............
Originally posted by laurence82:they do talk about christ in buddhism forum
only difference is, in buddhism forum the topics were discussed in a meaningful way, while here...is like warzone
How they discuss Jesus? Jesus as a bodhistava? Lastime my buddhist centre believes Jesus to be a bodhistava. In the west, they told those americans that Jesus is a bodhistava.
I am ex buddhsit.
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
How they discuss Jesus? Jesus as a bodhistava? Lastime my buddhist centre believes Jesus to be a bodhistava. In the west, they told those americans that Jesus is a bodhistava.I am ex buddhsit.
LOL. you are a ex buddhist then i must be a ex christian because i also read bible and know quite a lot.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:LOL. you are a ex buddhist then i must be a ex christian because i also read bible and know quite a lot.
Read bible and know a lot not equal to christian. An ex christian must believe in Jesus but later on abandon the belief.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:LOL. you are a ex buddhist then i must be a ex christian because i also read bible and know quite a lot.
I lastime take refuge in triple gems one. Lastime i believe in rebirth and karma and buddhism concepts like emptiness dependent origination etc.
Know alot and read bible does not mean u r Christian.
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
How they discuss Jesus? Jesus as a bodhistava? Lastime my buddhist centre believes Jesus to be a bodhistava. In the west, they told those americans that Jesus is a bodhistava.I am ex buddhsit.
Why Christians say Buddha is satan but Buddhism say Jesus is bodhistava ? Buddhism and Christianity say must love your enemy. Who is walking the talk here ?
interesting...would you like to share why you stopped believing in what you used to believe in and decided to follow christianity??? i tink both christians and non-christians will be interested to noe...
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
How they discuss Jesus? Jesus as a bodhistava? Lastime my buddhist centre believes Jesus to be a bodhistava. In the west, they told those americans that Jesus is a bodhistava.I am ex buddhsit.
i doubt there are ex Buddhists who are genuine Buddhists in the past, just as xtians now disbelieve there are genuine ex xtians
Originally posted by BanguIzai:Oh well said Googoomuck
You may want to take a look at this article which I have posted last year:
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I am not saying who's right & who's wrong, it's just happens to be not exactly the same as what you said with respect to India.
You are too stupid to believe the Hindu extremists' propaganda. They are the oppressors of the Dalits.
They are sanctioned by religion to murder the Dalits who leave their fold.
Burning the Dalits alive and cutting them to pieces are not unusual.
Originally posted by googoomuck:You are too stupid to believe the Hindu extremists' propaganda. They are the oppressors of the Dalits.
They are sanctioned by religion to murder the Dalits who leave their fold.
Burning the Dalits alive and cutting them to pieces are not unusual.
Good reply. Who then is also too stupid to believe in you?
For everything you can say against other religion, you can choose to turn a blind eye when the same thing happens to your religion.
Wake up you, Googoomuck.
Originally posted by laurence82:i doubt there are ex Buddhists who are genuine Buddhists in the past, just as xtians now disbelieve there are genuine ex xtians
Got wad. My church got a lot of devout ex buddhists.
I joined a chinese church i know many ex buddhist from there.
Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Why Christians say Buddha is satan but Buddhism say Jesus is bodhistava ? Buddhism and Christianity say must love your enemy. Who is walking the talk here ?
Yes Christianalty say love ur enemy. We do pray for our enemy.
But the love for enemies is not applicable for Satan.
I pray for my enemy too, enemy at work, enemy at school etc.
We never say buddha is satan/devil . Clearly buddha is not a devil/satan. Buddha is a human being to us. But we dun agree with Buddhism as a religion/ philosophy. We dun agree with wad the buddha teachings.
We can have our own unique viewpoint of religions right.
When do christians give buddha a label Satan/devil? We never give that label.
Originally posted by despondent:interesting...would you like to share why you stopped believing in what you used to believe in and decided to follow christianity??? i tink both christians and non-christians will be interested to noe...
Because buddhism is a very difficult religion, beyond my ability to cope with.
I became christian when my frenz brought me to church. I like the sinners theory that christianality have.
No offense to any buddhist.
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
Because buddhism is a very difficult religion, beyond my ability to cope with.I became christian when my frenz brought me to church. I like the sinners theory that christianality have.
No offense to any buddhist.
i choose religion based on truth. if it is the truth, i will embrace it no matter how difficult it is. back to the old question. what i understand is our nature is after god plus our free will, i'm i right ?
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
Yes Christianalty say love ur enemy. We do pray for our enemy.But the love for enemies is not applicable for Satan.
I pray for my enemy too, enemy at work, enemy at school etc.
We never say buddha is satan/devil . Clearly buddha is not a devil/satan. Buddha is a human being to us. But we dun agree with Buddhism as a religion/ philosophy. We dun agree with wad the buddha teachings.
We can have our own unique viewpoint of religions right.
When do christians give buddha a label Satan/devil? We never give that label.
is satan god's enemy ?
i tink the question to ask is does God love satan? guess wad? the answer is yes. the problem wif ppl is tat they onli understand that God is loving but they fail to understand that God is also a judge. ppl place too much focus on the part that God is supposed to be loving while leaving out the part that He is also a righteous judge.
coming back to the qn: is satan God's enemy? i would say from a judgement point of view, yes BUT from a love point of view no. we shld not mix up love wif judgement. i noe fairyfairy feels humans cannot be compared to God but i am going to use humans as parallels again...when parents judge their children who has done wrong, does that mean they dun love them anymore? ok, so a loving God is supposed to spare the rod and spoil the child?
the reason why humans wrestle wif the issue of whether God is loving is simply cos love itself is very subjective...some believe love is possessive...some believe love is abt letting go...etc...who can say who is rite? likewise, God has His way to demonstrate His love which apparently some ppl consider as love, some dun...those who dun have their own definitions of love BUT take note, some others wun agree wif these ppl definitions of love...
I did read some of chapters of the Holy Bible about 10 years ago. It felt like I was reading a story+history book. Thus I stop reading it.
But now that I am more knowledgeable, I will read it a second time to find out what is so wonderful about it.
* Flips open the Holy Bible, the contents...
The First Book of Moses Called GENESIS
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3. Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
i choose religion based on truth. if it is the truth, i will embrace it no matter how difficult it is. back to the old question. what i understand is our nature is after god plus our free will, i'm i right ?
Now I dun believe in Buddhism.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:Good reply. Who then is also too stupid to believe in you?
For everything you can say against other religion, you can choose to turn a blind eye when the same thing happens to your religion.
Wake up you, Googoomuck.
Don't understand what you're saying, really! You are the one who's biased against Christianity!
You are so easily influenced by Anti-Christian Hoaxes and you don't accept facts that can be verified to be true. Ask any educated Ah Nehs in your work place. The website you've posted is a hoax and many Dalits have been burnt alive or cut into pieces in rural India, where the religious principles of Hinduism dominate.
Of course there's ONE belief you can count on - that the Dalits are born into the lowest of the low castes based on karma! This is a much simpler explanation for the plight of the Dalits.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
Got wad. My church got a lot of devout ex buddhists.I joined a chinese church i know many ex buddhist from there.
then there are many ex christians
so now comparing whose lan jiao bigger?
to pepper
would it be possible for u to share more thoroughly why now u dun believe in buddhism?
Originally posted by despondent:to pepper
would it be possible for u to share more thoroughly why now u dun believe in buddhism?
Now y i dun believe in buddhism?
After i go church I know we r all sinners and need a saviour to save us. Our sins seperate us from God. How to believe in buddhism again after u know this. Of course I believe in Christianality.
But when I give up on buddhism that time, it's due to the difficulty level of buddhism. I havent go to church yet.
After I became discourage and give up eventually then I go to a church with my frenz.