I am Catholic
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Originally posted by JWorld:
You mean Protestant and Catholic?The Catholic Church is the world's largest, and Christianity's oldest, religious body. Her more than 1 billion members inhabit the width and breadth of the earth and the number continues to grow. Article dated April this year that the population has grown by another 12% http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0428/catholic.html
Catholics believe that theirs is the one true Church of Jesus Christ, firstly, because theirs is the only Christian Church that goes back in history to the time of Christ; secondly, because theirs is the only Christian Church which possesses the invincible unity, the intrinsic holiness, the continual universality and the indisputable apostolicity which Christ said would distinguish His true Church; and thirdly, because the Apostles and primitive Church Fathers, who certainly were members of Christ's true Church, all professed membership in the same Catholic Church (See Apostles' Creed and the Primitive Christian letters).
Protestant Church (which commonly mistaken as The ONE Christianity) was only founded five hundred years ago when some members of the Catholic Church protested against the original teachings (that's how the name protestants came about).
tks jwWorld. very well explained. you're very well versed in doctrines and teachings of the Catholic church.. are you a priest btw? or teaching in seminary??
It's good that you point out the misconceptions alleged by the christians who confuse particulary the non christians esp those searching for the meaning of life in particular christianity or even to some extent, catholics ourselves which obviously isn't true.
As catholics, we have to read and know our faith.well (very impt!!) .otherwise we'll stuump for words when our protestant brethrens point out or attack us in our faith. To some extent, we have to be blamed for lack of knowledge on the catholic faith esp once we finish catechism class upon reaching sec 4, and thereafter the catechsim books is kept in lockers or drawers to collect dust. thus stopping to learn more abt the faith. Even converts of many years ago stop learning once they got baptised. That's sad! The moment you stop learning, it dies out! simple as that!
To stay in the faith.. we need to join in ministries. Choose any one which suits you. If you love singing, join choir, If reading, join lectors or animators.. Or better still join sponsor in RCIA. By joining, they will help you to grow and stay relevant in the faith..
To chris .. thanks for bringing up this topic.. and also to others esp my fellow catholics, servant, fatum, JWWorld and many others who help to answer many questions posed by the forummers. Keep this thread going.. All of us are learning from each other.
cheers
God bless!
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Originally posted by Fatum:
as I've mentioned before, St Joseph's BT.
I'm a sponsor at this year's RCIA too, the classes are held every monday at eight for the english one.
tks Fatum So how's Fr Edmund Chong? has he grown fatter?? or rather has his face grown fatter?? haha. I believe he has the gift of discernment. and also an exorcist. perhaps?? -
father edmond is the happiest man I've ever met. He's always got this smile on his face. And yeps, I believe this man's got quite a bit of spiritual learning, I'm pretty sure he can see through people and perform exorcisms.
But more importantly, his talks are really enjoyable, everyone lights up and go "bling !" on mondays when he's scheduled for the RCIA.
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Originally posted by JWorld:
I believe your pastor, bible teacher have misinformed you about many stuff. But I don't blame them cuz they,like you have been misinformed too.
The right place to go for information about Catholic belief, in fact the only place to go for complete and authoritative information, is the Catholic Church herself. As any detective will tell you, no investigation is quite so complete as an on the spot investigation.
to clarify, in our bible classes for critique against catholics, we uses documents such as Catholic Cathecism with the seal of the Pope, the council of trent,
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Hi guys, thank you all for your wonderful sharing. This thread has actually benefited me enormously as well as it has answered quite a few of my own queries on the Catholic church.
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
to clarify, in our bible classes for critique against catholics, we uses documents such as Catholic Cathecism with the seal of the Pope, the council of trent,
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Originally posted by Chris88110:
Hi guys, thank you all for your wonderful sharing. This thread has actually benefited me enormously as well as it has answered quite a few of my own queries on the Catholic church.
not a problem mate. I can be found at St Joseph's RCIA every monday at 8. There'll be people on hand to answer any queries as well. I think all catholics should attend RCIA at least once in their lives, even cradle catholics, it's different from catchechism classes for children, and it gives people a good grounding in the spiritual and theological aspects of our chosen faith.
Of course, you can just look up father alex as well.
Anyone else, non-christians or christians of other stripes are certainly welcome as well, of course. As I've pointed out, unlike other places, we'll NEVER tell you "ours is right and yours is wrong", nor would we condemn or rubbish other people's.
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
to clarify, in our bible classes for critique against catholics, we uses documents such as Catholic Cathecism with the seal of the Pope, the council of trent,
i do not know how old are you.. or what did not denomination are you from.. But if you read the history of the Catholic church (def not form yr classes or materials) from an open mind.. opposite from what you have been taught or learn abt. Even if you have use the CCC or the papal encyclicals, have you reflected or at least ask yourself why it was written this way or so?? What is the message that the writer trying to convey.. is there some truth in it?? etc..For a start, would you like to attend our mass and see if there's anything what the priest and the readers, choir etc. say or do or sing that is contrary to the church teachings or the gospels itself..See for yrself..
God Bless
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Bible classes for critique against catholics? Thats a first........
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
to clarify, in our bible classes for critique against catholics, we uses documents such as Catholic Cathecism with the seal of the Pope, the council of trent,
No point reading up the CCC just to try finding holes in it. Just like the Bible, anyone can easily interpret it to suit his or her own ideas. Have you tried asking Catholics about why things are presented in the CCC the way they are?
A few questions to ponder:
How did Christianity begin and develop since the time of Jesus Christ? How did the early Christians worship and what did they believe in?
Where did the Bible come from?
If you seek the truth to these questions with an open and honest heart, I have no doubt that you will understand why the Catholic Church is the way it is.
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actually, I'm very curious which "church" this public transport fan goes to.
well, let it be a good lesson for everyone else, to the dangers of turning into "taleban christians"
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I'm curious as well. Is it some anti-catholic sect? For all its publicity even city harvest does'nt criticise the Catholic church
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Originally posted by Fatum:
actually, I'm very curious which "church" this public transport fan goes to.
well, let it be a good lesson for everyone else, to the dangers of turning into "taleban christians"
excuse me, i shall not devuldge on my identity
In addition, CHC is another church that technically cannot be called a church
I shall resign from this argument and
this forum is for christians but not catholics
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
excuse me, i shall not devuldge on my identity
In addition, CHC is another church that technically cannot be called a church
I shall resign from this argument and
this forum is for christians but not catholics
That's right. This is a Christians forum and therefore Catholics are there. -
Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
excuse me, i shall not devuldge on my identity
In addition, CHC is another church that technically cannot be called a church
I shall resign from this argument and
this forum is for christians but not catholics
You're right, why do you think I'm here?
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
excuse me, i shall not devuldge on my identity
In addition, CHC is another church that technically cannot be called a church
I shall resign from this argument and
this forum is for christians but not catholics
catholics are christians, so what nonsense are you spewing?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
catholics are christians, so what nonsense are you spewing?
Common misconception by most protestants. I accompanied my friend to the St Andrew's cathedral at city hall to conduct an interview. There, they told us that Catholics were not classified as Christians but rather a cult. Strange eh?
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actually guys, please read through pages 1- 30, this is clearly not a catholic forum and in definition, christians = protestants only.
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whose definition? is that written in the bible?
page 1 - 30 of what? nuthing here impy this forum is for protestants only
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nvm. period to discussion.
Anyway, l learned more abt catholics here...but that's not going to change my attitude twoards catholics
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u mean your baseless attitude?
how can you extol the truth in the bible while allowing yourself to be wrought by personal bias?
something is definitely wrong once you start sharing the gospel
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
actually guys, please read through pages 1- 30, this is clearly not a catholic forum and in definition, christians = protestants only.
Out of curiosity, where did you get your definition from?
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Originally posted by Chris88110:
Common misconception by most protestants. I accompanied my friend to the St Andrew's cathedral at city hall to conduct an interview. There, they told us that Catholics were not classified as Christians but rather a cult. Strange eh?
It's not really a misconception. Protestants do not like to be named protestants. Cuz the name Protestant or Protestantism clearly defines that they are the ones who broke away from the original church (by protesting).Ask those ppl lor... if Catholics (the original Christians) are the cults, what does this make the Protestants (whose church was only founded 500 years ago)?
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Originally posted by Honeybunz:
It's not really a misconception. Protestants do not like to be named protestants. Cuz the name Protestant or Protestantism clearly defines that they are the ones who broke away from the original church (by protesting).Ask those ppl lor... if Catholics (the original Christians) are the cults, what does this make the Protestants (whose church was only founded 500 years ago)?
Ah, so its blatant denial, apparently I'm the one with the misconception