i just read a police report on how a 3 yr-old girl was sexually assaulted and then drowned by a man............
since Christians will say that the girl died becoz God wanted her in heaven..............
now, if i were to ask why the little girl must die so horribly...............you'll say God works in mysterious ways.....
now why can't God just use a snap of his fingers, eh ?
also, by making the man kill the girl.................the man goes to hell..............but it was God that did it !
so tell me how you people make sense of this NON-sense ?
and how do you people worship an old psychopath mass-murderer ?
For the girl, of course she will go to heaven as she has not commit a single sin at all and is innocent.
Originally posted by Timberlake:For the girl, of course she will go to heaven as she has not commit a single sin at all and is innocent.
I find Christianity very contradicting. One moment, Christians say humans are born evil (original sin from Adam and Eve) so we need Jesus to save us. Next moment say little girls and babies are not sinful so they will go to heaven even if they are not Christians. What is what ?
Normally i would not bother replying such a thread cos of the confirm flaming... but this time dunno why i feel like it..
One thing i can confirm for you now, is that it was not "God's will" that the girl, or anyone should die. The Bible says that Death is an enemy, and will be conquered when Jesus returns.
God definitely did not make that man kill anyone, He does not make anyone do anything. Everyone has a free choice. God didnt create robots. You can choose to eat char kuay tiao today for lunch, you can choose not to. There are some things God will not do for several reasons, for example, God cannot lie, and God will not enforce his blessings on someone without being asked.
I find Christianity very contradicting. One moment, Christians say humans are born evil (original sin from Adam and Eve) so we need Jesus to save us. Next moment say little girls and babies are not sinful so they will go to heaven even if they are not Christians. What is what ?
All are born in Sin, but there is an age of accountability whereby people are responsible for their own sins, which is around the age of 10. why 10yrs? Cos all jewish kids learn the Torah(written law) by 7yrs, and the Talmud(spoken law) by 10 yrs old. Therefore the standard is set at 10yrs. Paul says once he was alive, but when he learnt the Law, the law killed him.
The key here is that accepting Christ means you let Jesus take your place of judgement, and you take His place of righteousness.
now, if i were to ask why the little girl must die so horribly...............you'll say God works in mysterious ways.....
Who ever told you "God works in mysterious ways" does not really know God. The Bible says "if you see me (Jesus), you have seen the Father.(John 14:7) And all throughout the Gospels, we see Jesus raising the dead, healing ALL who came to Him, the deaf hear, the blind see. Jesus is God's will in action.
DEATH is an enemy ????.................conquered when Jesus returns.????
so when God sent the Flood to kill the whole of Humanity except Noah and family................Death was respnsible ??????
one thing is for sure, i know many many different writers wrote the fairytales in the bible............but to believe in that kind of NON-sense.................LOL
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:DEATH is an enemy ????.................conquered when Jesus returns.????
so when God sent the Flood to kill the whole of Humanity except Noah and family................Death was respnsible ??????
one thing is for sure, i know many many different writers wrote the fairytales in the bible............but to believe in that kind of NON-sense.................LOL
irregardless of the answers/etc, it will be considered rubbish to you. in this case, why do you still want to engage? don't u have better things to do?
becoz in my great compassion.............i wish to help people to free themselves from all the lies that's been deluding them for so long..............
to wake up.............you must question and then think...........then you'll have realizations........not simply blindly following what that make no sense..........
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:becoz in my great compassion.............i wish to help people to free themselves from all the lies that's been deluding them for so long..............
to wake up.............you must question and then think...........then you'll have realizations........not simply blindly following what that make no sense..........
irregardless, by barking up the wrong tree is your approach, and it is making all people just tired of your barking. so will that improve matters?
ur compassion? ur help? pls... if U really want to do what U want to do, u will choose the way where people will listen, be respectful, be sincere and lastly, with knowledge.
Imagine the situation reverse, I don't think even a critic yourself can stomach what u have written thus far, and u naively expect people to even lend u their ears. :)
those who stay in the dark for too long, will fail to appreciate the light and fear that once they step out, they will lose everything.
Sadly, that's just about time for me. I wish you well.. bye.
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:becoz in my great compassion.............i wish to help people to free themselves from all the lies that's been deluding them for so long..............
to wake up.............you must question and then think...........then you'll have realizations........not simply blindly following what that make no sense..........
One needs wisdom to see the truth and one needs courage to admit what is the truth. Too bad, not everyone has both wisdom and courage.
Originally posted by Pinknutri:
I find Christianity very contradicting. One moment, Christians say humans are born evil (original sin from Adam and Eve) so we need Jesus to save us. Next moment say little girls and babies are not sinful so they will go to heaven even if they are not Christians. What is what ?
No use debating with Christians. You are wasting precious energy!
"Earth Store Bodhisattva ( Di Zang Wang Pu Sa) is one of the four great bodhisattvas in the world. He saves the hell beings from torture and brings them to the path of bodhi. In Theravada, his counterpart is Phra Malai, a buddhist arahat who is said to have appeared in hell saving hell beings. Many buddhists have put them as the same identity."
Googoomuck................what you say is too true............
just how could those fellas still trust those conmen at City Harvest Church and New Creation Church is the last thing i can understand !
Don't feed the trolls. Thanks
singaporeans are gullible, thats why
Originally posted by Pinknutri:One needs wisdom to see the truth and one needs courage to admit what is the truth. Too bad, not everyone has both wisdom and courage.
wait wait wait... are u saying that AsRomanista2001 has wisdom and courage ?
Or are u saying that people of faith are intellectually challenged and unable or too pussy ass to admit what is the truth because they lack the wisdom for it?
Or both.
Please enlighten me. lol
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what he meant is that even when highly educated and intelligent people realize that all religions are man-made.............they have no courage to accept that truth becoz they would feel their lives have no meaning anymore...............
people created religions becoz they afraid their existence will end................so they created the idea of a after-life................and since the after-life is supposedly eternal.................they invented a paradise called Heaven....................
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:what he meant is that even when highly educated and intelligent people realize that all religions are man-made.............they have no courage to accept that truth becoz they would feel their lives have no meaning anymore...............
people created religions becoz they afraid their existence will end................so they created the idea of a after-life................and since the after-life is supposedly eternal.................they invented a paradise called Heaven....................
I know that you like to be praised for your sock puppeting skills but there's a right time and a place for this!
Be patient!
Originally posted by googoomuck:I know that you like to be praised for your sock puppeting skills but there's a right time and a place for this!
Be patient!
u are sad guy
gOD GOD God God, !!!!!! What is so damn great about God mannnn!
Originally posted by Pinknutri:
I find Christianity very contradicting. One moment, Christians say humans are born evil (original sin from Adam and Eve) so we need Jesus to save us. Next moment say little girls and babies are not sinful so they will go to heaven even if they are not Christians. What is what ?
Pink some churches believe small children also go hell some say will go heaven.
divided on this issue.
Originally posted by hasene:gOD GOD God God, !!!!!! What is so damn great about God mannnn!
Haha lol
Originally posted by BadzMaro:wait wait wait... are u saying that AsRomanista2001 has wisdom and courage ?
Or are u saying that people of faith are intellectually challenged and unable or too pussy ass to admit what is the truth because they lack the wisdom for it?
Or both.
Please enlighten me. lol
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Many Christians believe the existence of ghosts and afraid of ghosts because they told me their fear and experiences. Some even knew that their family members who were Christians did not go to heaven but become spirits (some incidents). However, they still stick to their faith that they had gone to heaven because the bible says so. Thus, I said these people need courage to admit what is the truth and wisdom to recognise the truth.
Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Many Christians believe the existence of ghosts and afraid of ghosts because they told me their fear and experiences. Some even knew that their family members who were Christians did not go to heaven but become spirits (some incidents). However, they still stick to their faith that they had gone to heaven because the bible says so. Thus, I said these people need courage to admit what is the truth and wisdom to recognise the truth.
My malay frenz also believe in ghosts.
Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Many Christians believe the existence of ghosts and afraid of ghosts because they told me their fear and experiences. Some even knew that their family members who were Christians did not go to heaven but become spirits (some incidents). However, they still stick to their faith that they had gone to heaven because the bible says so. Thus, I said these people need courage to admit what is the truth and wisdom to recognise the truth.
Good explainations. But there is a problem though, I know what u mean.
If they know their family members who were Christians did not go to heaven but become spirits, how do they know that ? How would they even know that their experiences are real ? It may be as fake as thier belief in their faith right ?
So courage to admit what is truth and wisdom does not really stem from the TRUTH.. but of their own experience on what they think . Who is to say that their experience is real and not real ?
When one talks about faith, there are people who are of other religion and experiened something that resulted in their change of belief into Christianity, is that then not courage to admit that is is truth, and due to thier wisdom and/or experience they de . U see the problem here.
Unless you believe that your religion is the TRUTH, you are no different from any other religion that believes that thier truth.. is THE TRUTH.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Good explainations. But there is a problem though, I know what u mean.
If they know their family members who were Christians did not go to heaven but become spirits, how do they know that ? How would they even know that their experiences are real ? It may be as fake as thier belief in their faith right ?
So courage to admit what is truth and wisdom does not really stem from the TRUTH.. but of their own experience on what they think . Who is to say that their experience is real and not real ?
When one talks about faith, there are people who are of other religion and experiened something that resulted in their change of belief into Christianity, is that then not courage to admit that is is truth, and due to thier wisdom and/or experience they de . U see the problem here.
Unless you believe that your religion is the TRUTH, you are no different from any other religion that believes that thier truth.. is THE TRUTH.
I'm in no position to say their experiences were true because I'm not them. According to some, few family members experienced the same thing and some is a family member experienced the same thing over and over again. I shall not elaborate. As the bible did mention that the road the heaven is narrow and few will find it. So to speak, not all the Christians will go to heaven, only the good ones may be.
Originally posted by Pinknutri:I'm in no position to say their experiences were true because I'm not them. According to some, few family members experienced the same thing and some is a family member experienced the same thing over and over again. I shall not elaborate. As the bible did mention that the road the heaven is narrow and few will find it. So to speak, not all the Christians will go to heaven, only the good ones may be.
I was also told of these experiences, like Buddhists saying my father's father stuck in limbo cant be elevated or something as he was buddhist, and my mum's side praying that he goes to "heaven" , but whatever it is, the Buddhist master claimed that in the end everything was fine and nothing to be worried about anymore.
So in this instance, is it the prayer of my mum's side or my dad's side that resulted in it? U see the problem here. Or both are equally insane while both can equally be as logical.
But whatever it is, I also truly believe that not all the Christians will go to heaven.