Originally posted by Pinknutri:I'm in no position to say their experiences were true because I'm not them. According to some, few family members experienced the same thing and some is a family member experienced the same thing over and over again. I shall not elaborate. As the bible did mention that the road the heaven is narrow and few will find it. So to speak, not all the Christians will go to heaven, only the good ones may be.
I was also told of these experiences, like Buddhists saying my father's father stuck in limbo cant be elevated or something as he was buddhist, and my mum's side praying that he goes to "heaven" , but whatever it is, the Buddhist master claimed that in the end everything was fine and nothing to be worried about anymore.
So in this instance, is it the prayer of my mum's side or my dad's side that resulted in it? U see the problem here. Or both are equally insane while both can equally be as logical.
But whatever it is, I also truly believe that not all the Christians will go to heaven.
go to heaven ???
how to go to a place that's made up by the human mind ???
as long as people retain their human desires and mentality..................no place can be heaven.............hence, the concept of heaven is as real as the Land of Oz................
You are as sure that it is made up by human mind as I am as sure that it exists without us thinking otherwise.
So the circular argument will continue.
We have desires in the first place because we are human. Unless u are trying to compare primitives and 21st century man ? And speaking of mentality, what mentality ? Are u talking about mentalities of people of faith ? If yes, what do u really expect thier mentality to be ?
If you are not talking about the mentality of people of faiths, then are u talking plainly about... mentality ? What would u replace it with ? The material self-gratification of Abundance Mentality ? Then wouldnt that too still be part of our human desires ?
Hence, people with no human desires and any form of mentality, is essentially an animal, which do not go beyond the level of simple sentiment of self.
Man becomes conscious of himself at the moment when - for the first time - one says "I." To understand man by understanding his "origin" is, therefore, to understand the origin of the "I" revealed by speech.
The very being of man, the self-conscious being, therefore, implies and presupposes Desire.
As long as you cannot seprate and understand the tangible from the intangible and vice versa, nothing to you will be "real". And you become no more as "real" as your conspiracy theories.
I believe heaven n hell exists.
MAN PROPOSES, GOD DISPOSES