Who is Buddha?
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S.gal83 - Muse over this: If indeed god is the creator of the UNIVERSE - who created ''god'' and before that who was the one who created ''god''?
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then how come God created a guy's foreskin but he later want to kill Noah becoz he never potong ???
then how come he can't create Jesus like he did with Adam but must have a human give birth to him ???
since all humans came from Adam and Eve..........just like leaves from the same tree.............then why God favour the Jews leh ???
how come there are White and Black people leh + different DNA leh ???
then how come only Christians can go heaven leh ???
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God is unlike the other beings in the universe. He is not created, and is eternal. He is beyond time and space.
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:S.gal83 - Muse over this: If indeed god is the creator of the UNIVERSE - who created ''god'' and before that who was the one who created ''god''?
That's what the devil want you to keep thinking about the hen or egg first theory.Of course there must be hen first before the egg.
And of course if god requires a creator, then god won't be a real. So don't contradict yourself and confuse others with your own confusion. It only work on the faithless, godless and lost people.
Only GOD have the power to create all living things in the world, that's why GOD IS GOD.
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Parn wad abt other monotheistic religions? Gt many religions believe in one God.
Which is correct?
Yes I believed Hen comes first.
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Originally posted by parn:
That's what the devil want you to keep thinking about the hen or egg first theory.Of course there must be hen first before the egg.
And of course if god requires a creator, then god won't be a real. So don't contradict yourself and confuse others with your own confusion. It only work on the faithless, godless and lost people.
Only GOD have the power to create all living things in the world, that's why GOD IS GOD.
typical brain-dead Christian response..............when you start to question......
the Devil is at work.........
or the classic.....................God works in mysterious ways............
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
then how come God created a guy's foreskin but he later want to kill Noah becoz he never potong ???
then how come he can't create Jesus like he did with Adam but must have a human give birth to him ???
since all humans came from Adam and Eve..........just like leaves from the same tree.............then why God favour the Jews leh ???
how come there are White and Black people leh + different DNA leh ???
then how come only Christians can go heaven leh ???
I think you are talking about Moses and not Noah, and are you talking about the part when Moses fail to circumcise his child? Because there is no instance in the bible when God wanted to kill Noah.
God can create Jesus like the way he created Adam if he wanted to. But then Jesus will not be of the blood of mortal, or at least the blood of the sinful mortal. For Jesus to be sacrificed as the lamb of God to redeem the world, He needed to be born of the flesh of fallen mortal. Therefore, He is born of the womb of a human mortal named Mary, but He is also born of the Holy Spirit of God. In this way, Jesus can claim to be God and man at the same time. If Jesus is born in the way like Adam, he will be a toally new creation, not in the lineage of mankind, and therefore, He will not be qualified to redeem mankind as the sacrificial lamb.
God favored the jews, because he made a promise to watch over the descendents of Abraham, and therefore He had to keep His promise to the jews.
I had to log off now because my parents are going home. I will try to reply to your other questions as soon as I can, and that may be one week later since I do not have access to the internet.
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Originally posted by parn:
All Buddhist should love FTs, especially indian FTs.
After all, they are the decendants of Buddha.
Last time, if not for Tripitaka and his journey to India to bring back the scriptures and translate them into chinese, China would've become a state with no religion.
People would be praying to Guan Yu and Lu Bu, but do you think Guan Yu and Lu Bu would pray to an Indian ah bu neh neh Buddha?
Anyway people are confuse easily, when they want to join gangs and fight for their women, they will pray to Guan Yu and Lu Bu. Then after they got their women and they want to retire, they will pray to Buddha for peace and wisdom.
But I know before they all die, they will be trying their best to convert into Christianity.
Why? Because they all know that Christianity is the one TRUE RELIGION.
No need to shave your heads, can still enjoy KFC and Bacon, no need to cry on TV or walk on tight rope between buildings.
And most importantly, can eat REAL FOOD....not those man-made vegetarian meat like a hypocrite.
This entire Buddhism is a farce! Can eat fake MEAT made of beancurds.....eat meat...LMAO!!!!
Some retards don't even realised the average size of a Buddha is so much bigger than the average size of Jesus. And still want to post some internet photo dunno grab from where one.........LOL.
um, you know, as a buddhist, i have certain opinions i have about Christianity as well... but my opinions do not contain anything slandering Christ or God. certainly not anything similar along the lines of "Indian abu neh neh Buddha".
after seeing the things you've posted, i've lost my desire to state any of my opinions. I only have one thing to say, and that is that if you don't believe in what others believe in, the least you could do is to respect their beliefs.
you can go on and shoot me all you want, but i can only say, from all your prayer sessions, mass, services at church, chapel or whatsoever, Christ or God, as YOU believe, clearly failed to bequeath unto you the basic knowledge of Respect.
I only feel pity for you. cause you're just embarrassing Christianity. -
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
then how come God created a guy's foreskin but he later want to kill Noah becoz he never potong ???
then how come he can't create Jesus like he did with Adam but must have a human give birth to him ???
since all humans came from Adam and Eve..........just like leaves from the same tree.............then why God favour the Jews leh ???
how come there are White and Black people leh + different DNA leh ???
then how come only Christians can go heaven leh ???
Why don't you take a step of faith and believe in GOD?I'm sure it's more convincing for you to find out the answers to your questions on your own.
Are you ready to take the step of faith? Just say YES.
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Originally posted by metalxx:
um, you know, as a buddhist, i have certain opinions i have about Christianity as well... but my opinions do not contain anything slandering Christ or God. certainly not anything similar along the lines of "Indian abu neh neh Buddha".
after seeing the things you've posted, i've lost my desire to state any of my opinions. I only have one thing to say, and that is that if you don't believe in what others believe in, the least you could do is to respect their beliefs.
you can go on and shoot me all you want, but i can only say, from all your prayer sessions, mass, services at church, chapel or whatsoever, Christ or God, as YOU believe, clearly failed to bequeath unto you the basic knowledge of Respect.
I only feel pity for you. cause you're just embarrassing Christianity.
No need to feel bad, I'm not good enough to represent Christianity, I'm only voicing out based on my own conviction and my relationship with GOD.Does all buddhist behave as arrogant as you to imagine that they are good enough to speak on behalf of their religion?
I don't think so, because I don't need to know you personally to tell you that you're not good enough to represent or speak on behalf of any religion.
But you may share your opinions based on your faith and your experience in your religion.
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parn,
I did not state a fact, I posed a questioner and i uttered - MUSE over this.
As for being (me included) the devil, it is fine, cos all of us are devils one time or another cos the angels in us also exist in the same manner - polarities always exist and the wise one would synthesize and accept. Has it ever occurred to anyone that each human being is half of a man/woman - a by product of a male and a female.For love to exist, the polarity of fear(hate) has to exist! To deny and pretend or ignore is folly. the unwise ones would choose and divide, choose and exclude.
I am not a christian, i am not a buddhist - all i do care is for what is true and what is freeing.
My posting reveals what I am, what others utter about me or dont utter about or post are excuses. What I am is manifesting itself. I live with it.
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Originally posted by Pure Emptiness:
Parn wad abt other monotheistic religions? Gt many religions believe in one God.
Which is correct?
Yes I believed Hen comes first.
Let their believers speak for on their own believe and experience in their religion.I can speak based on my own conviction and experience with GOD.
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Originally posted by parn:
Why don't you take a step of faith and believe in GOD?I'm sure it's more convincing for you to find out the answers to your questions on your own.
Are you ready to take the step of faith? Just say YES.
there we go again...............when Christians run out of sensible answers to the tough questions............they say take a step of faith..............
trust a religion that always try to avoid attempts to find the truth ?????
believing in Christianity is like sitting at the foot of Mt Everest doing nothing........... and still claim you'll reach the summit............becoz of faith..........
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:parn,
I did not state a fact, I posed a questioner and i uttered - MUSE over this.
As for being (me included) the devil, it is fine, cos all of us are devils one time or another cos the angels in us also exist in the same manner - polarities always exist and the wise one would synthesize and accept. Has it ever occurred to anyone that each human being is half of a man/woman - a by product of a male and a female.For love to exist, the polarity of fear(hate) has to exist! To deny and pretend or ignore is folly. the unwise ones would choose and divide, choose and exclude.
I am not a christian, i am not a buddhist - all i do care is for what is true and what is freeing.
My posting reveals what I am, what others utter about me or dont utter about or post are excuses. What I am is manifesting itself. I live with it.
Tell me, how do you know what is true and which is the truth when you don't have any faith?How do you judge which is true and which is false when you don't know which is the real truth?
You can only be concern and be confused if you only expect to hear the truth from others.
Why not take the step of faith and seek out the real truth for yourself?
You have nothing to lose if you take the step of faith, but you are losing precious time if you hold yourself back from seeking out the real truth for your own benefits.
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
there we go again...............when Christians run out of sensible answers to the tough questions............they say take a step of faith..............
trust a religion that always try to avoid attempts to find the truth ?????
believing in Christianity is like sitting at the foot of Mt Everest doing nothing........... and still claim you'll reach the summit............becoz of faith..........
You don't know the real truth and that's why you chose to believe that there are none.Does it makes you feel consoled and assured if you are not alone in your own disbelief?
I know that's why you are trying your best to convince people to be join you and be alone.
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Originally posted by parn:
No need to feel bad, I'm not good enough to represent Christianity, I'm only voicing out based on my own conviction and my relationship with GOD.Does all buddhist behave as arrogant as you to imagine that they are good enough to speak on behalf of their religion?
I don't think so, because I don't need to know you personally to tell you that you're not good enough to represent or speak on behalf of any religion.
But you may share your opinions based on your faith and your experience in your religion.
Nah, as I've said, I've lost my desire to share.
And since when did I ever say that I was speaking on behalf of my religion? I just merely said that you have no respect for other religions, that's all.
But you know what? This argument is getting nowhere. Personally I feel that what I'm talking to you about is more of your own character, and not because of religion. This debate on religion would never end cause people believe in different things.
So yeah. Just so you know, I'm 17 and I at least know this basic thing called respect for others. I respect the fact that you're a Christian, and you do not believe in other religions. It's fine, you know, but at least show some respect for Buddha, and not call him names. Cause certainly none of the Buddhists here insulted Christ or God in any way whatsoever.
And yes, I am arrogant. I admit my flaws, if you truly think I am flawed this way. I have to thank you. You enlightened me on a way in which I could change myself to become a better person. And I mean it, not being sarcastic or whatever.
I'm dropping this now. And I suggest you do, too. It's getting pointless. Just wanna let you know, it'll be better if you could maybe just change your tone a bit. It's for the better of this world. We don't need anymore "Holy Wars" or Crusades. -
Christians only interested in going to heaven...............that's the bait to hook the ignorant fishes...........
when you think about it............heaven (not that it exist) cannot be heaven when people who go there still retain all their human desires and cravings.........
jealousy............lust.........etc etc will still be there..............
if God don't give you what you want............you're unhappy even in heaven.........
if God give you what you want................your cravings will never end.........
### so what's gonna happen when guys wanna screw their neighbours' wives ?
what's gonna happen when a guy want to be as powerful as God ?
or when 2 or 3 guys are competing to have the grandest house.......fastest car........etc etc in heaven ?
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Truth spoken is no longer truth but hearsay and belief. What is true - is an existential expereince, a herenow expereince. It is an individual expereince not a collective or nor can it be expereinced by belonging to a faith. I am not demonizing any religion but I lament the distortion, the bigotry and the assumption that knowledge is being wise, being true.
I said what is true not what is truth. Truth anybody can tell u, books, teachers, friends, bible, texts, .... add on .
What is true or false all depends on the individual's perception and most all the willingess despite the fears, the labels the conditionings to see what is true.
It is not a monoply reserved for a few but for anyone to partake of what is .. assuming one is willing to.
My expereince can never be yours and vice versa.
The longing of all human being is to be free. Sadly many have confused free to be with free from ...
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Originally posted by metalxx:
Nah, as I've said, I've lost my desire to share.
And since when did I ever say that I was speaking on behalf of my religion? I just merely said that you have no respect for other religions, that's all.
But you know what? This argument is getting nowhere. Personally I feel that what I'm talking to you about is more of your own character, and not because of religion. This debate on religion would never end cause people believe in different things.
So yeah. Just so you know, I'm 17 and I at least know this basic thing called respect for others. I respect the fact that you're a Christian, and you do not believe in other religions. It's fine, you know, but at least show some respect for Buddha, and not call him names. Cause certainly none of the Buddhists here insulted Christ or God in any way whatsoever.
And yes, I am arrogant. I admit my flaws, if you truly think I am flawed this way. I have to thank you. You enlightened me on a way in which I could change myself to become a better person. And I mean it, not being sarcastic or whatever.
I'm dropping this now. And I suggest you do, too. It's getting pointless. Just wanna let you know, it'll be better if you could maybe just change your tone a bit. It's for the better of this world. We don't need anymore "Holy Wars" or Crusades.
Well, make me change my tone then.But it's ok if you tell me you have also lost your desire to do so.
It's just not possible for you to achieve that anyway, so don't bother trying.
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Originally posted by metalxx:
Nah, as I've said, I've lost my desire to share.
And since when did I ever say that I was speaking on behalf of my religion? I just merely said that you have no respect for other religions, that's all.
But you know what? This argument is getting nowhere. Personally I feel that what I'm talking to you about is more of your own character, and not because of religion. This debate on religion would never end cause people believe in different things.
So yeah. Just so you know, I'm 17 and I at least know this basic thing called respect for others. I respect the fact that you're a Christian, and you do not believe in other religions. It's fine, you know, but at least show some respect for Buddha, and not call him names. Cause certainly none of the Buddhists here insulted Christ or God in any way whatsoever.
And yes, I am arrogant. I admit my flaws, if you truly think I am flawed this way. I have to thank you. You enlightened me on a way in which I could change myself to become a better person. And I mean it, not being sarcastic or whatever.
I'm dropping this now. And I suggest you do, too. It's getting pointless. Just wanna let you know, it'll be better if you could maybe just change your tone a bit. It's for the better of this world. We don't need anymore "Holy Wars" or Crusades.you're only 17 ????..........that's wonderful...........
good to see that you're not like those young airheads that took up Christianity becoz it's considered a ''AngMoh'' religion...............
those goons don't wanna admit it............but if Jesus had been portrayed as a Negro........Christianity would have vanished long long ago............
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
Christians only interested in going to heaven...............that's the bait to hook the ignorant fishes...........
when you think about it............heaven (not that it exist) cannot be heaven when people who go there still retain all their human desires and cravings.........
jealousy............lust.........etc etc will still be there..............
if God don't give you what you want............you're unhappy even in heaven.........
if God give you what you want................your cravings will never end.........
### so what's gonna happen when guys wanna screw their neighbours' wives ?
what's gonna happen when a guy want to be as powerful as God ?
or when 2 or 3 guys are competing to have the grandest house.......fastest car........etc etc in heaven ?
Why do you need to know? You ready to believe in GOD?Aren't you afraid to find out that you're alone in your faithless world?
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:
Truth spoken is no longer truth but hearsay and belief. What is true - is an existential expereince, a herenow expereince. It is an individual expereince not a collective or nor can it be expereinced by belonging to a faith. I am not demonizing any religion but I lament the distortion, the bigotry and the assumption that knowledge is being wise, being true.
I said what is true not what is truth. Truth anybody can tell u, books, teachers, friends, bible, texts, .... add on .
What is true or false all depends on the individual's perception and most all the willingess despite the fears, the labels the conditionings to see what is true.
It is not a monoply reserved for a few but for anyone to partake of what is .. assuming one is willing to.
My expereince can never be yours and vice versa.
The longing of all human being is to be free. Sadly many have confused free to be with free from ...
Truth is based on experience and faith.Books, teachers, friends, texts can only share so much to guide you to build up the faith to discover the truth for yourself.
Since when you're not free to believe and not free to disbelieve?
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
you're only 17 ????..........that's wonderful...........
good to see that you're not like those young airheads that took up Christianity becoz it's considered a ''AngMoh'' religion...............
those goons don't wanna admit it............but if Jesus had been portrayed as a Negro........Christianity would have vanished long long ago............
Haha actually I wouldn't know what would've have happened if I was a free-thinker. I mean Christians, I have to admit, they can be VERY persuasive if they want to. But I was born a Buddhist so yeah. I have to say it's one of the few things that I'm glad about in my life.
And that's not cool man. The last part. Haha. But I have to say though, there are more and more young people who're getting Westernized. TOO Westernized, in fact. We must all love our country. Hurr hurr hurr. -
parn,Different planes of being perceive differntly, and it is palpable that you seem to differ and i do understand ur stance. How to explain that which is herenow? how to partake of what is true when one is absent to what is.
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Originally posted by parn:
Well, make me change my tone then.But it's ok if you tell me you have also lost your desire to do so.
It's just not possible for you to achieve that anyway, so don't bother trying.
Whatever man. And yeah I probably won't be able to achieve that, for this lifetime at least.
I can understand if you don't wanna change your tone. I used to be an internet hater once so I can relate. But, you know, just letting you know. You can choose not to listen if you want to. After all I'm just a kid in your eyes.
I'm dropping this. Peace out man. I wish you all the best with your Faith.