Atoms are 99.9999999999999 per cent empty space...............
(one reason why Buddhists stress on ''emptiness'' and that physical reality is an illusion)
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The double slit experiment, shows that light behaves as both a wave and a particle, observing it makes it one or the other.
A particle here can affect one on the other side of the universe, instantaneously
(why Buddha said nothing exists independently but only in relation to one another)
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Observing a particle now can change what happened to another one – in the past.
According to Relativity Theory..........the universe does not account for a past, present or future
Universe is made of energy............energy cannot be created nor can it be destroyed............
(why Buddha said that the universe has no beginning and no end)
bro you haven said, energy cannot be created or destroyed.
also the big bangs, there were also big bangs before the big bangs, so on and so forth, so there is no beginning.
how to trace the beginning of a big bang, when there was a previous big bang before the big bang and so forth.
thats why creationsist stories and fables, belonged to the past. science just proves that. they are becoming irrelevant in this day and age.
Originally posted by Rooney9:bro you haven said, energy cannot be created or destroyed.
yah ah..........that's my favourite some more.........!
there's a couple more but i forgot to put down...........
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
yah ah..........that's my favourite some more.........!
there's a couple more but i forgot to put down...........
Put them all down. May be more people will be awaken.
Do you guys actually understand what you posted ? Or is this just a cut n post without even knowing what it really means.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
Religion, or at least a belief in some kind of creator, is not incompatible with science, nor should it be. Faith, by it's very definition, is not a function of logic, but something very human. Where one runs into problems is when faith attempts to subvert empirical fact with doctrine. Or, conversely, when science attempts to destroy faith by the misapplication of fact.
Big bang of a big bang ? Are u proposing infinity + 1 ? Sure. If that makes you guys feel comfortable with.
Eventhough I am no cosmologist or some astrophysicist, I dont jump the gun as if that is the truth. lol. If you guys can be so sure on such conjecture, I really got nothing to say. It just suprises me that you guys can give in to that much possibility on something that is in it's infancy while discounting the possibilities of the opposite. So I think you guys are just sucking in and spewing out whatever that fits you agendas, without even going through something we call.. a brain.
Lets not be gullible and ignorant. Just as interesting as dumb people's confidence is the honestly tentative and uncertain language used by really smart people.
Dont forget that when your job is developing models, you become well aware of how imperfect they are (despite being useful and safe).
A question then, if the Universe is timeless, why don't we see evidence of other civilizations that have figured it out, beat the odds and succeeded in vastly expanding their sphere (or 3-spheres) of influence. There must be millions of them, no ?
ya you rather believe in the bible wholeheartedly and you are the wise one and we are the ignorant and gullible ones lol.
Thats it ? A two sentence statement about me made by you ? You said it not me. I already said I am fully capable of accepting possibilities. But whether they are pursuasive is another matter.
The bible is just a stepping stone in understanding the nature of God once u believe there is such a divine being.
The basic arguments for the existence of God do not involve the Bible. The big question is whether there is any God, anything out there beyond the physical world that we can perceive through our five senses.
The existence of God does not depend on the Bible. Cosmological, teleological, ontological, moral, and philosophical proofs of God’s existence can be made with no appeal to scripture.
But then again, if you dont believe, I am not here to pursuade you. Just here to show you the possibilities only. Because you guys seem to be on a jihad or something in proving your point, by what other people write of course. lol
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Do you guys actually understand what you posted ? Or is this just a cut n post without even knowing what it really means.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
Religion, or at least a belief in some kind of creator, is not incompatible with science, nor should it be. Faith, by it's very definition, is not a function of logic, but something very human. Where one runs into problems is when faith attempts to subvert empirical fact with doctrine. Or, conversely, when science attempts to destroy faith by the misapplication of fact.
Big bang of a big bang ? Are u proposing infinity + 1 ? Sure. If that makes you guys feel comfortable with.
Eventhough I am no cosmologist or some astrophysicist, I dont jump the gun as if that is the truth. lol. If you guys can be so sure on such conjecture, I really got nothing to say. It just suprises me that you guys can give in to that much possibility on something that is in it's infancy while discounting the possibilities of the opposite. So I think you guys are just sucking in and spewing out whatever that fits you agendas, without even going through something we call.. a brain.
Lets not be gullible and ignorant. Just as interesting as dumb people's confidence is the honestly tentative and uncertain language used by really smart people.
Dont forget that when your job is developing models, you become well aware of how imperfect they are (despite being useful and safe).
A question then, if the Universe is timeless, why don't we see evidence of other civilizations that have figured it out, beat the odds and succeeded in vastly expanding their sphere (or 3-spheres) of influence. There must be millions of them, no ?
The double slit experiment, shows that light behaves as both a wave and a particle, observing it makes it one or the other.
A particle here can affect one on the other side of the universe, instantaneously
(why Buddha said nothing exists independently but only in relation to one another)
Can you name me one thing on earth which exists without dependent on another ?
when energy cannot be created or destroyed, isnt creationist theories failed? how to proceed further.
Originally posted by Pinknutri:The double slit experiment, shows that light behaves as both a wave and a particle, observing it makes it one or the other.
A particle here can affect one on the other side of the universe, instantaneously
(why Buddha said nothing exists independently but only in relation to one another)
Can you name me one thing on earth which exists without dependent on another ?
And you dont need that to tell you that we are as interdependent as we think. Need I remind you that such existence and philosophy is not just confined to the teachings of Buddhism alone. And not to mention I never denied that it to be false.
Buddhism and science go hand-in-hand....why is this topic at a Christian forum?
Originally posted by Rooney9:when energy cannot be created or destroyed, isnt creationist theories failed? how to proceed further.
That has nothing to do with the failure of creationist theories. It only fails because again you are limiting God to your own understanding.
Just like your "Can God create something he cant lift" Again.. another limitation imposed by you even after u acknowledge that he is God. Seems that you keep asking the same questions. Either you are stupid or you just cant accept the answers given to you.
What if God has always existed. There is no need for a beginning nor an end. What if it IS energy in itself ?
Originally posted by Demon Bane:Buddhism and science go hand-in-hand....why is this topic at a Christian forum?
I dont know too. I was wondering about that. And the topic on "Who Is Buddha" topic too thought those should be in Buddhism forum ?
Christianity and Science can go hand in hand, and no doube Buddhism can in its own way. like I said before:-
Religion, or at least a belief in some kind of creator, is not incompatible with science, nor should it be. Faith, by it's very definition, is not a function of logic, but something very human. Where one runs into problems is when faith attempts to subvert empirical fact with doctrine. Or, conversely, when science attempts to destroy faith by the misapplication of fact.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:I dont know too. I was wondering about that. And the topic on "Who Is Buddha" topic too thought those should be in Buddhism forum ?
Christianity and Science can go hand in hand, and no doube Buddhism can in its own way. like I said before:-
Religion, or at least a belief in some kind of creator, is not incompatible with science, nor should it be. Faith, by it's very definition, is not a function of logic, but something very human. Where one runs into problems is when faith attempts to subvert empirical fact with doctrine. Or, conversely, when science attempts to destroy faith by the misapplication of fact.
Whatever we believe, happiness is most important.
Faith is mere cowardice, an excuse to avoid thinking and evaluating or srutinizing evidence. Ít is a mere belief labelled otherwsie - nothing more nothing less! It does not allow for one to understand onself or the world around onself.
The delusion of one is insanity and the collective delusion is ORGANISED religion. ... organized why? to circumsribe, to dicate, to keep one tethered to vested interests, in fact it is per ser religion politicised for the benefit for a few who are on the top echelons of the church, temple or ... anything that is defined is dead! It is because of the fear and when one is not rooted to reality that this futurizing that something beyond us (in this instance, god) is going to save us. Is this not deluding oneself? If the hypothesis is that god created the universe and yet he/she/it is capable of being judgemental and can dictate who needs such a ''god'' ?
It is a fiction and a fiction created to have people in bondage. Without the support of followers the fiction of ... cannot be maintained. It will remain as long as fear and anxiety within oneself is not reconciled or understood. Till something becomes a real experience and a reality in one's living, one can talk about it, one can endlessly quote scriptures, sutras or ... it is simply lying to oneself. When one's inner being is impoverished, nothing outside of onself would suffice and how is it possible to create/share outside for/with another or the world at large. When external factors(???) decides one's well-being or who one is or what one is, it is not a good measure of living. Where is the dignity of one''s uniqueness? Idiocy is being content with what is given, acquired or .... intelligence is inspite of being contented with what is given, told or acquired one still has still child'' sense of wonder.
BadzMaro........
if the Christian God is energy itself...........
# why he in human form leh ?
# why he must have son by human female leh ?
# most importantly.........why the obsession with penis and foreskin leh ???
Originally posted by BadzMaro:And you dont need that to tell you that we are as interdependent as we think. Need I remind you that such existence and philosophy is not just confined to the teachings of Buddhism alone. And not to mention I never denied that it to be false.
Please highlight verses in the bible which mention all things in these world are made up of different components and are interdependent.
put it simply la....scientific explanations cannot explain the unexplainable...thats where faith comes in...human knowledge remains infinitely questionable....
no doubt i stand neutral....give the believers a break.....
as Einstein said: "God is subtle."
The Shakyamuni Buddha once said: " A portion of river water had millions of worms". Now with a microscope (science), we know its true!
Originally posted by BadzMaro:That has nothing to do with the failure of creationist theories. It only fails because again you are limiting God to your own understanding.
Just like your "Can God create something he cant lift" Again.. another limitation imposed by you even after u acknowledge that he is God. Seems that you keep asking the same questions. Either you are stupid or you just cant accept the answers given to you.
What if God has always existed. There is no need for a beginning nor an end. What if it IS energy in itself ?
its one thing for christians to tell you you are going to hell, its another about its doctrine. Anyway if you cant see the fallacy or paradoxes, then good luck to you, because you really needed it. I am just here to explain the paradoxes of a god religion.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:That has nothing to do with the failure of creationist theories. It only fails because again you are limiting God to your own understanding.
Just like your "Can God create something he cant lift" Again.. another limitation imposed by you even after u acknowledge that he is God. Seems that you keep asking the same questions. Either you are stupid or you just cant accept the answers given to you.
What if God has always existed. There is no need for a beginning nor an end. What if it IS energy in itself ?
you still dun get the statement do you, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. energy manifest itself as matter , so doesnt need a creator to create anything in this universe. I dun tink you can grasp this concept without the concept of a creator.
god as energy in itself? that is even more ludicrous, as energy cant be created, how can it go on create things. you are contradicting this scientific fact.
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:BadzMaro........
if the Christian God is energy itself...........
# why he in human form leh ?
# why he must have son by human female leh ?
# most importantly.........why the obsession with penis and foreskin leh ???
Why not ?
Instead of seeing it as an obsession with penis and foreskin, why not intelligence on the specific time for circumcision ?