Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
can a christian reach the top of a mountain while he just sit at the bottom thru praying ???
nope, god help those who help themselves
meaning if the destination is the top of the mountain, you still need to climb the mountain yourself but you pray for a smooth and safe journey
+ i think Pinknutri is an atheist like you, he seems to be asking me to pray in a sarcastic way
Originally posted by PedoBear:
nope, god help those who help themselvesmeaning if the destination is the top of the mountain, you still need to climb the mountain yourself but you pray for a smooth and safe journey
+ i think Pinknutri is an atheist like you, he seems to be asking me to pray in a sarcastic way
I'm not being sarcastic. I sincerely hope that your prayers work. Please also pray for me that I will strike the 5 million toto on this Friday. I bought a lot. Sincerely hope that at least your prayer for me works.
Originally posted by PedoBear:
nope, god help those who help themselvesmeaning if the destination is the top of the mountain, you still need to climb the mountain yourself but you pray for a smooth and safe journey
+ i think Pinknutri is an atheist like you, he seems to be asking me to pray in a sarcastic way
bullshit....................if you still need to put in effort, then the concept of heaven and Jesus dying for christians are total rubbish...............
wishful thinking.................
MAN-MADE religions are so inconsistent.................and full of flaws..................
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
bullshit....................if you still need to put in effort, then the concept of heaven and Jesus dying for christians are total rubbish...............
wishful thinking.................
MAN-MADE religions are so inconsistent.................and full of flaws..................
wow
i thought you've at least have some basic understanding of Christianity
from you post, you obviously have no knowledge of Christianity at all
while i also enjoy talking crap about religion (Christianity included), at least I made an effort to learn about them so that I dont look stupid when doing it
i look forward to more of your posts
Originally posted by PedoBear:
wowi thought you've at least have some basic understanding of Christianity
from you post, you obviously have no knowledge of Christianity at all
while i also enjoy talking crap about religion (Christianity included), at least I made an effort to learn about them so that I dont look stupid when doing it
i look forward to more of your posts
I agree, this is the most amazing thing. He talks as if he knows it all and tries to 'teach' Christians about something that he frankly knows nothing about.
Anyway, thanks to him, he is actually fulfilling Jesus' words (Matt 5:11-12):
"Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
Such is the wisdom and foresight of our Lord! So keep praying and drawing your strength and faith from all these vicious and senseless attacks. It is all worth it for the Lord who suffered the same attacks. Who knows, he may even one day turn back to the Creator that he abused so mercilessly when he finally realises how badly he has hurt others and himself. Nothing is impossible for God :)
God bless!
Originally posted by Servant:I agree, this is the most amazing thing. He talks as if he knows it all and tries to 'teach' Christians about something that he frankly knows nothing about.
Anyway, thanks to him, he is actually fulfilling Jesus' words (Matt 5:11-12):
"Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
Such is the wisdom and foresight of our Lord! So keep praying and drawing your strength and faith from all these vicious and senseless attacks. It is all worth it for the Lord who suffered the same attacks. Who knows, he may even one day turn back to the Creator that he abused so mercilessly when he finally realises how badly he has hurt others and himself. Nothing is impossible for God :)
God bless!
typical christian bullshit....................there's always bible quotes that help to ''protect'' it...............
you praise it and there a quote for it......................you criticize it also got quote for it......................
DON'T FORGET......................THE CHURCH WAS ONCE THE FIERCEST DEFENDER OF THE FLAT EARTH THEORY.........................lol
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
typical christian bullshit....................there's always bible quotes that help to ''protect'' it...............
you praise it and there a quote for it......................you criticize it also got quote for it......................
DON'T FORGET......................THE CHURCH WAS ONCE THE FIERCEST DEFENDER OF THE FLAT EARTH THEORY.........................lol
And people once thought that the Black Death in England during the middle ages was caused by contaminated well water when it was actually caused by rats.
Your point?
my point is ....................the Church is almost always WRONG !
the only big thing it got right is that people will believe in its man-made nonsense...................
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:my point is ....................the Church is almost always WRONG !
the only big thing it got right is that people will believe in its man-made nonsense...................
Well, at least it got it right on how it will be attacked mindlessly by nutcases
And oh, you have never made a mistake? Just look at almost all your posts, enough said. Thank you very much, but I'll much rather trust the Church
Christianity is correct in the sense that all humans are sinners.
Asromanista2001, surely u sin before right ?
Hell is the eternal place for sinners.
like that no one go heaven liao lor.................
TRUST THE CHURCH ???!!!
the same church that's been in league with the mafia for ages ?
the same church that's involved in usury ??
the same church that shielded pedophile priests that raped young kids ???
MIGHT AS WELL TRUST THE DEVIL.....................
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:like that no one go heaven liao lor.................
TRUST THE CHURCH ???!!!
the same church that's been in league with the mafia for ages ?
the same church that's involved in usury ??
the same church that shielded pedophile priests that raped young kids ???
MIGHT AS WELL TRUST THE DEVIL.....................
maybe god is the devil, the devil is the god, who knows
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:like that no one go heaven liao lor.................
TRUST THE CHURCH ???!!!
the same church that's been in league with the mafia for ages ?
the same church that's involved in usury ??
the same church that shielded pedophile priests that raped young kids ???
MIGHT AS WELL TRUST THE DEVIL.....................
Then trust you? No thanks, really
Let us know when you start becoming a decent human being.
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:like that no one go heaven liao lor.................
TRUST THE CHURCH ???!!!
the same church that's been in league with the mafia for ages ?
the same church that's involved in usury ??
the same church that shielded pedophile priests that raped young kids ???
MIGHT AS WELL TRUST THE DEVIL.....................
Jesus death on the cross makes us eligible for heaven.
If he never die on the cross we cannot go into heaven based on good works and good deeds/ own effort.
Originally posted by Servant:Then trust you? No thanks, really
Let us know when you start becoming a decent human being.
i never say trust me.....................
just use that god-damned brain of yours and think.....................
even Einstein said he find it amazing that the modern man can believe in superstitious (and absurd) religions.................
Originally posted by Pure Emptiness:Jesus death on the cross makes us eligible for heaven.
If he never die on the cross we cannot go into heaven based on good works and good deeds/ own effort.
hahaha..................wishful thinking boh.................???
someone die for you so you go heaven......................
pure wishful thinking, brudder...........................
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
i never say trust me.....................
just use that god-damned brain of yours and think.....................
even Einstein said he find it amazing that the modern man can believe in superstitious (and absurd) religions.................
Albert Einstein witnessed how the Catholic Church, led by Pope Pius XII, stood up to the moral Blitzkrieg of the Hitler and the Nazis. In his essay "Einstein and God", Thomas F. Torrance relates how the famous German scientist, a Jew who as a child was instructed in the Bible and Talmud, came to a great appreciation of the Church during World War II. In a letter to an American Episcopal bishop, Einstein wrote:
"Being a lover of freedom . . . I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom, but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks.
"Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly."
One of Einstein’s colleagues at Princeton, Max Jammer, wrote in his 1955 book, Einstein and Religion, that Einstein’s understanding of physics and religion were bound profoundly together. It seemed to Einstein, said Jammer, that nature exhibited traces of God like "a natural theology." Einstein spoke of God so frequently, Jammer wrote, that another scientist friend, Friedrich Durrenmatt, said, "Einstein used to speak of God so often that I almost looked upon him as a disguised theologian."
Here is a snippet from a 1929 interview in The Saturday Evening Post:
Post: "To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
Einstein: "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene.". . .
Post: "You accept the historical Jesus?"
Einstein: "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life" (Saturday Evening Post, October 26, 1929).
This is getting really pathetic.
A friendly piece of advice - go seek some medical help as soon as you can. Most psychological conditions can be treated, if I'm not mistaken. Good luck and God bless!
today i pray for singapore to stop flooding
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
hahaha..................wishful thinking boh.................???
someone die for you so you go heaven......................
pure wishful thinking, brudder...........................
Cos we cannot go heaven thru our own effort. we can never be good enough for heaven. God's standard is too high.
No one can enter heaven through good works or merits.
Originally posted by Pure Emptiness:Cos we cannot go heaven thru our own effort. we can never be good enough for heaven. God's standard is too high.
No one can enter heaven through good works or merits.
what a load of bull......................if no one is ever good enough for heaven..............
then why not create a lower-class one ???
that's the lamest thing i've ever heard...................
Originally posted by Pure Emptiness:Cos we cannot go heaven thru our own effort. we can never be good enough for heaven. God's standard is too high.
No one can enter heaven through good works or merits.
Agree with you, but we need to remember also that our faith and desire for salvation is shown by our love for others, ie good works. As mentioned in the letter of James, 'Faith without works is dead'.
today i pray that my flight tonight go smoothly
and i plan to eat lots of nuts so people with peanut allergy watch out
Originally posted by Servant:Agree with you, but we need to remember also that our faith and desire for salvation is shown by our love for others, ie good works. As mentioned in the letter of James, 'Faith without works is dead'.
Yes agreed. Good works like church attendance/volunteer/ work bible reading is important too.
otherwise, how to perpetuate this fairytale which is so profitable for them hor ?
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:otherwise, how to perpetuate this fairytale which is so profitable for them hor ?
Not all churches have money hungry pastors. My pastor live in five room flat.