POPE BENEDICT : ''CHILD PORN NOT ABSOLUTE EVIL'' !!!
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Victims of clerical sex abuse are furious with Pope Benedict's claim that paedophilia wasn't considered an “absolute evil”.
In his Christmas address to cardinals and officials, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.
“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”
Asking how abuse exploded within the Church, the Pontiff called on senior clerics “to repair as much as possible the injustices that occurred” and to help victims heal through a ''better presentation of the Christian message''.
### The latest controversy comes as German magazine Der Spiegel continues to investigate the Pope's role in allowing known paedophile priests to work with children since the early 1980s.
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OH MY GOD!
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no surprise lah.............you ever seen photos of the pope when he's smiling at children ???
scary boy.............!!! he looks like a vampire............looks a lot like the disfigured Emperor in Stars Wars..........
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Power.. MOAR POWEEEEER !!!
o.k.. but on a more serious note... I am sure thats not what he meant what u think he means.
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Really? Is that what the Pope said?
Then i say THANK YOU!
What he said will put the last nail on Christanity's coffin!
Wahahahahahahahaha
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Comprehension fail, citation also fail YET AGAIN.
Pope spreads blame for church's humiliating record on child abuse by priests
Barney Zwartz
December 22, 2010
AN UNIMAGINABLE number of child sex-abuse reports this year was a humiliation the church must accept as an exhortation to truth and renewal, Pope Benedict XVI has said.
The Pope used his annual speech to Rome's cardinals and bishops to urge the church to reflect on how it let the abuse happen. But he also blamed the influence of the secular morality of child pornography and sex tourism, and a form of moral relativism that influenced Catholic theology in the 1970s.
''We must ask ourselves what we can do to repair as much as possible the injustice that has occurred,'' he said. ''We must ask ourselves what was wrong in our proclamation, in our whole way of living the Christian life, to allow such a thing to happen.''
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The Pope said the church was well aware of the gravity of this sin committed by priests, and of the church's responsibility. But nor could he be silent about ''the context of these times''.
''There is a market in child pornography that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society,'' he said on Monday. ''The psychological destruction of children, in which human persons are reduced to articles of merchandise, is a terrifying sign of the times.''
He also said he heard from bishop after bishop in developing countries how sex tourism threatened an entire generation, while the problem of drugs was extending ''its octopus tentacles around the entire world''.
He criticised moral relativism from the 1970s that discarded absolutes, leaving only a ''better than'' and ''worse than''. ''Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist.''
The Pope was pessimistic about the future, saying: ''For all its new hopes and possibilities, our world is at the same time troubled by the sense that moral consensus is collapsing, consensus without which juridical and political structures cannot function.''
A Catholic ethicist, Nicholas Tonti-Filippini, said the Pope's use of the 12th-century saint Hildegard's vision of the church as a battered woman, her garments rent and torn by priests' sins, was a powerful metaphor for the church's suffering caused by paedophile priests. He said the Pope could not blame secular culture, because the culture did not stoop so low as to advocate abusing children, but he was right to criticise situational ethics because child abuse was always an absolute wrong and never justifiable.
Victims' advocates were sceptical yesterday. Helen Last, of In Good Faith, said: ''These statements we continually get are just crocodile tears until they open their files and processes to secular authorities.''
Ms Last said it was encouraging if the Pope put the interests of children first, because that had not been the church's practice for the past 20 years.
The Melbourne historian Dr Bernard Barrett, who has researched clerical sexual abuse, said it did not begin in the 1970s but spanned the church's 2000-year history and remained a deep-seated problem. -
Hi, Thanks for the article, I had a feeling that this may yet be another misquote of what was said, and the full transcript will help clear things up.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
Comprehension fail, citation also fail YET AGAIN.
Pope spreads blame for church's humiliating record on child abuse by priests
Barney Zwartz
December 22, 2010
AN UNIMAGINABLE number of child sex-abuse reports this year was a humiliation the church must accept as an exhortation to truth and renewal, Pope Benedict XVI has said.
The Pope used his annual speech to Rome's cardinals and bishops to urge the church to reflect on how it let the abuse happen. But he also blamed the influence of the secular morality of child pornography and sex tourism, and a form of moral relativism that influenced Catholic theology in the 1970s.
''We must ask ourselves what we can do to repair as much as possible the injustice that has occurred,'' he said. ''We must ask ourselves what was wrong in our proclamation, in our whole way of living the Christian life, to allow such a thing to happen.''
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The Pope said the church was well aware of the gravity of this sin committed by priests, and of the church's responsibility. But nor could he be silent about ''the context of these times''.
''There is a market in child pornography that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society,'' he said on Monday. ''The psychological destruction of children, in which human persons are reduced to articles of merchandise, is a terrifying sign of the times.''
He also said he heard from bishop after bishop in developing countries how sex tourism threatened an entire generation, while the problem of drugs was extending ''its octopus tentacles around the entire world''.
He criticised moral relativism from the 1970s that discarded absolutes, leaving only a ''better than'' and ''worse than''. ''Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist.''
The Pope was pessimistic about the future, saying: ''For all its new hopes and possibilities, our world is at the same time troubled by the sense that moral consensus is collapsing, consensus without which juridical and political structures cannot function.''
A Catholic ethicist, Nicholas Tonti-Filippini, said the Pope's use of the 12th-century saint Hildegard's vision of the church as a battered woman, her garments rent and torn by priests' sins, was a powerful metaphor for the church's suffering caused by paedophile priests. He said the Pope could not blame secular culture, because the culture did not stoop so low as to advocate abusing children, but he was right to criticise situational ethics because child abuse was always an absolute wrong and never justifiable.
Victims' advocates were sceptical yesterday. Helen Last, of In Good Faith, said: ''These statements we continually get are just crocodile tears until they open their files and processes to secular authorities.''
Ms Last said it was encouraging if the Pope put the interests of children first, because that had not been the church's practice for the past 20 years.
The Melbourne historian Dr Bernard Barrett, who has researched clerical sexual abuse, said it did not begin in the 1970s but spanned the church's 2000-year history and remained a deep-seated problem.
Thats Ass Romanista2001 for you.. again. lol
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Originally posted by Mr Milo:
Really? Is that what the Pope said?
Then i say THANK YOU!
What he said will put the last nail on Christanity's coffin!
Wahahahahahahahaha
lol..
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He is feeded with tons of bad news and gets himself contaminated
, and under tremendous pressure that not even himself is aware of 
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additional sauce makes it better!
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
Power.. MOAR POWEEEEER !!!
I am sure thats not what he meant what u think he means.
I didn't know that Pope Benedict was so photogenic. He certainly is looking alot healthier in this picture. The pope as you can see h as alot of power. -
Originally posted by Gary oak77:
I didn't know that Pope Benedict was so photogenic. He certainly is looking alot healthier in this picture. The pope as you can see h as alot of power.The next pope according to some prophecy is supposed to be the last pope and Pope Benedict is very old. Coincidentally I have heard and read that Obama is supposed jto be the last president of the USA. I however do not believe everything I read and hear however.....it is an interesting point. We will soon see whatever the truth may be.2012 isn't that far away and I highly doubt the world will end however I do think something will happen. If nothing happens then the whole world will be feeling like morons
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Originally posted by Gary oak77:
I didn't know that Pope Benedict was so photogenic. He certainly is looking alot healthier in this picture. The pope as you can see h as alot of power.are you aware the pope listens to orders from the ''black pope''..........
the black pope is the top guy running the Jesuits................those blood-thirsty gold-diggers that went all over the world to plunder...................''spreading christianity'' has always been just an excuse.........
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Damn the Pope!
Blame other people for their plight!
cannot control their own people come and blame others for it
kick his ass
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
are you aware the pope listens to orders from the ''black pope''..........
the black pope is the top guy running the Jesuits................those blood-thirsty gold-diggers that went all over the world to plunder...................''spreading christianity'' has always been just an excuse.........
Oh yes, I know this topic probably far better than you do and I am not disagreeing with you on anything you wrote above. I had a chance to meet the top jesuit in Asia once but I declined. He is far to smart,far to powerful,has easy access to all info and I am sure that there is so much about them that even i don't know yet. You have to have a PHD to be a jesuit by the way. These guys are very smart . I think that they understand the spiritual realm to the highest degree as well. -
I have very good reason to believe that they control the elite Chinese in China,Taiwan and all of the overseas Chinese communities as well
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no surprise...............i bet the Jesuits are all closet Jews anyway.........
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
no surprise...............i bet the Jesuits are all closet Jews anyway.........
The Jews were forced to live in Ghettos for centuries and were kicked out of many Catholic nations. Does this really sound like people who rule the world to you ? -
Pardon the pope. He doesn't know much. We must not misunderstood what pope says is what god says. He is just an one of poor old folks people expect all explanation come from him; obviously do not. We all with community spirit to continue to fight all the evil. Children of all social/ economy level must be protected. Greed and lust of people must be brought to justic.
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Originally posted by Gary oak77:
The Jews were forced to live in Ghettos for centuries and were kicked out of many Catholic nations. Does this really sound like people who rule the world to you ?a select group of jews rule the world not every one lah..............
in fact more jews kana marginalized by people the better for these rulers..............just like how they're hiding behind this bullshit ''anti-semite'' nonsense..............
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
are you aware the pope listens to orders from the ''black pope''..........
the black pope is the top guy running the Jesuits................those blood-thirsty gold-diggers that went all over the world to plunder...................''spreading christianity'' has always been just an excuse.........
Read the full article that KB posted, you fool.
When you fail to get the whole picture, of course the whole meaning changes.
By your messed-up logic, 'You smell wonderful today, darling' can be abbreviated to 'You smell, darling'.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Read the full article that KB posted, you fool.
When you fail to get the whole picture, of course the whole meaning changes.
By your messed-up logic, 'You smell wonderful today, darling' can be abbreviated to 'You smell, darling'.
As Romanista, you are on the right track. Don't listen to the horse shiite above.
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
a select group of jews rule the world not every one lah..............
in fact more jews kana marginalized by people the better for these rulers..............just like how they're hiding behind this bullshit ''anti-semite'' nonsense.............
You and your jewish conspiracy. -
i'm just one of many people that can see who's running the show..........
if you think all major events happen by random..................dream on.............
politics is not as simple as the mickey mouse stories in the newspapers and TV..............