Will religion be science in the future?
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i have explained it many times b4 in the past so i shall not explain again...besides, i have made a promise to refrain from christian philosophy when dealing wif non-christians...
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Originally posted by despondent:
sigh...tats why i said it takes a christian to understand christian philosophy...ask urself why badzmaro, brey and some other christians understand wad i am saying but u dun...dun tell me they are simple-minded and u are not? badzmaro is definitely not simple-minded...
only a self-deluded wishful thinking christian can make sense to another............
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sure...u are entitled to ur own opinions juz as christians are also entitled to theirs...
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
in truth...............there's no such thing as religions.................they're created by humans to comfort themselves over the fear of death...................religions don't exist by itself
just like you can't call a man fat unless u have seen a thin man and a normal weight man...............
THAT'S WHY RELIGIONS ALWAYS CLASH WITH SCIENCE...............................becoz religions are created by ignorant men thousands of years ago.................
What if you're wrong. What if theres truth in some religions somewhere?
Science is about understanding everything through logic or what we believe we think it right.
Religions do different. They do not clash with science.
Religion is more of a subject as much as history or science is. It is understanding of things in a very much different perspective. Religions serve no purpose in human advancements. It only exists to create a way of life and how society should run.
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Originally posted by despondent:
sigh...tats why i said it takes a christian to understand christian philosophy...ask urself why badzmaro, brey and some other christians understand wad i am saying but u dun...dun tell me they are simple-minded and u are not? badzmaro is definitely not simple-minded...
So, you are saying it is christian philosophy which is not true at all times and cannot use scientific facts to explain. In short, it is illogical.
Pain is pain, there is no need to know the opposite to know it is painful if one is burnt by fire. Scientifically, our body will react to pain by crying, screaming for help. A new born baby will cry in pain when he is being hurt.
Suffering is suffering. There is no need to know blessing to know it is suffering.
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Originally posted by Deino:
What if you're wrong. What if theres truth in some religions somewhere?
Science is about understanding everything through logic or what we believe we think it right.
Religions do different. They do not clash with science.
Religion is more of a subject as much as history or science is. It is understanding of things in a very much different perspective. Religions serve no purpose in human advancements. It only exists to create a way of life and how society should run.
religions are always clashing with Science........................
# otherwise why Christians, etc always condemn Darwin's Evolution theory...............?
# Man was supposedly the 1st ''ruler'' of Earth..................but now we know the dinosaurs were earlier than Man....................
### too many scientific discoveries clashed with religions to even begin to name.......................
the only one that doesn't clash with science is Buddhism......................
and it's not a religion........................
becoz religion is a MIS-concept that's created by the human mind...................
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
religions are always clashing with Science........................
# otherwise why Christians, etc always condemn Darwin's Evolution theory...............?
# Man was supposedly the 1st ''ruler'' of Earth..................but now we know the dinosaurs were earlier than Man....................
### too many scientific discoveries clashed with religions to even begin to name.......................
the only one that doesn't clash with science is Buddhism......................
and it's not a religion........................
becoz religion is a MIS-concept that's created by the human mind...................
Ya, in fact Buddhism is ahead of Science. Germs and bacteria was proven much later. I hope I can see in my life time that Science proves what Buddha said about aliens was correct. -
is 1 + 1 = 2 true at all times?
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Originally posted by despondent:
is 1 + 1 = 2 true at all times?
No. There are many possibilities.1+1=half +1 and a half.
1+1=1X2
1+1=4-2
1+1=4divide by 2 etc etc
0+2=2
half + 1 and a half =2
Just to tell you, there are many ways that lead to heaven not just Christianity.
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to pinknutri
so i take it tat only non-christians are logical ppl, christians are not since christian philosophy is illogical...wow...i didnt noe ppl like pinknutri had the authority and rite to determine wads logical and wads illogical and tat ppl muz follow wad he determined...
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all ur equations end up wif a final answer of 2...so ultimately, 1 + 1 is equal to 2...BUT 1 + 1 doesnt always equal 2...in binary, 1 + 1 equals 10...my pt is since 1 + 1 = 2 is not always true, hence 1+ 1 = 2 is illogical?
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besides, i was asking u a direct qn whether 1 + 1 = 2...u went to change the equation...is tat ''legal''?
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Originally posted by despondent:
besides, i was asking u a direct qn whether 1 + 1 = 2...u went to change the equation...is tat ''legal''?
That is definitely logical. To tell you the truth. I listened to the pastor who preached about 1+1=2, if I'm not wrong he is from Hong Kong. He said it is not unreasonable to say 1+1=2 just like it is not unreasonable to say only believe in Jesus will lead to heaven.But I'm telling you it is unreasonable to say 1+1=2. I've already given you all the possible equations above. Though ultimately the answer is 2 but there are many ways just like there are many ways that lead to heaven not necessarily be believe in Jesus.
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but teh context here is abt whether christian philosophy is logical...u said it wasnt since its not true all the time...since when was the context abt whether christianity is only way to heaven? tat is another topic...
so my eg is to tell u tat u cannot say sth is illogical juz cos its not true all the time...1 + 1 = 2 isnt true all the time since 1 + 1 can also equal 10...it depends whether u are looking at it mathematically or binary...likewise, whether christian philosophy is logical or not depends whether u are christian or non-christian...hope u see the link...i betta stop now cos any more and i will break my promise to refrain from using christian philosophy...
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It's funny how non-Christians want to force their opinions down the throats of Christians (in a Christian forum) when they themselves grumble that Christians can be pushy. The sheer irony of it.
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to Servant
u noe sth? i agree wif u BUT then again, life is full of ironies...so juz as how some ppl in sgforums like to say christianity is full of loopholes and ironies, life itself is alredi full of them...
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all man-made religions are full of loopholes and flaws.....................
christianity is just one of them.............................
the truth is.....................there's no such thing as religions.....................they're all creations of the human mind........................
humans created religions becoz they cling on to life..................an eternal after-life.................
humans created heaven................becoz they want to spend their eternal life in a nice place..................
humans created god....................becoz ''someone' has to create heaven in the 1st place........................LOL
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Originally posted by despondent:
to Servant
u noe sth? i agree wif u BUT then again, life is full of ironies...so juz as how some ppl in sgforums like to say christianity is full of loopholes and ironies, life itself is alredi full of them...
Yeah, I guess that's why Jesus asked us to carry our cross if we want to follow Him. But it's all worth it for Him
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worth it ????
just becoz you're full of wishful thinking...................that heaven exists.............
what if Jesus said you'll spend eternity in a very hostile place....................you still follow him ???
EVEN IN RELIGION..................PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT MATERIAL GAINS AND PLEASURES.....................
((( a most HUMAN thing..................typical of man-made religions.............)))
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
worth it ????
just becoz you're full of wishful thinking...................that heaven exists.............
what if Jesus said you'll spend eternity in a very hostile place....................you still follow him ???
EVEN IN RELIGION..................PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT MATERIAL GAINS AND PLEASURES.....................
((( a most HUMAN thing..................typical of man-made religions.............)))
If Jesus asked us to endure armchair critics who hide behind the internet to mindlessly attack others with blatant lies, that's the least that we can do for Him - He who first loved us unconditionally.
It's never too late to turn back to Him if you are really sincere in humbling yourself and repenting for all the wrongs that you've done. Perhaps someday you will realise this when you are about to leave this world.
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typical christian response...................always trying to dodge the hard questions....................becoz you also know you're deluding yourself....................
the truth is.....................if your so-called religion says you're gonna spend eternity in a hard place.....................there'll be no one left in that religion....................
people believe in religions to escape realities of life....................and fear of death.................
so they believe in any religion that promise a pleasant after-life....................christianity happens to be probably the easiest religion with minimal effort...................
### if God and Jesus really love humans unconditionally, then why only believers go to heaven ???
then why send the flood to kill 99.9999999......% of humanity ????
why must Jesus die then people can go to heaven ????
OPEN YOUR MIND AND THINK.............................INSTINCTIVELY...................YOU KNOW YOU'RE ONLY DELUDING YOURSELF WITH WISHFUL THINKING.................
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And I guess you have all the answers to the mysteries of the universe ?
Please share your delusions too with us. =D
I can imagine you waking up with your top 2 daily agendas.
1) Denouce the deluded Christians and their religion.
2) Jews are the cause of all the ills of this planet and you blame everything on them. Perhaps you can blame them for your stupidity too.
I dont blame you though. With limited capacity to comprehend and tolerance, this is the result. lol
Its like homos that hate christians and christians that hate homos. Looking at it, they are both the same.
By saying religion is to blame for all the atrocities, you also conveniently left out how religion have benefitted mankind.
Admit it , you are a Preachy Atheist. And u cant stop spreading ur religion here.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
And I guess you have all the answers to the mysteries of the universe ?
Please share your delusions too with us. =D
I can imagine you waking up with your top 2 daily agendas.
1) Denouce the deluded Christians and their religion.
2) Jews are the cause of all the ills of this planet and you blame everything on them. Perhaps you can blame them for your stupidity too.
I dont blame you though. With limited capacity to comprehend and tolerance, this is the result. lol
Its like homos that hate christians and christians that hate homos. Looking at it, they are both the same.
By saying religion is to blame for all the atrocities, you also conveniently left out how religion have benefitted mankind.
Admit it , you are a Preachy Atheist. And u cant stop spreading ur religion here.
And the best part is, I'm not sure if he realises that he makes Christianity look so good in contrast. If not being a Christian means having to be like him ... ugh, that makes me shudder.
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hi Servant,
that again is the christian perspective...to us, he is like tat, like tat...but to him, he is the saint trying to get ppl out of the ''delusional'' concept of religion and God...
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Hate the sin, love the sinner guys.