so a convict, criminals, rapists, murderers all can go to heaven if they accept Jesus as saviour? but then these people, who are not repentent, goes to heaven and goes on to create havoc there, just like what they did when they were alive.
question is, without purifying your minds and heart, wherever you go, you will still be the same. heaven is a place full of convicts and criminals.
the question is not how to go heaven......................since it doesn't exist...............
but rather....................even if heaven were to exist...................
will it actually be heaven since people will still have their never-ending desires.............
THERE'LL BE ADULTERY...................RAPE...................MURDER...............ETC ETC
what if people want Jesus to give them a massage........................how ?
what if people want Mary to give them a blowjob........................how ?
bump
if ur child is a rapist, murderer or ex-convict, would u disown him?
In theory, one can go heaven without commiting a sin.
But noone has even done that, do not forget the original sin from adam.
One obvious thing to observe is your sins commited in each day, note it down when u commit a sin.
You will be surprised to see how many sins is commited in a day.
the main difference between salvation by grace and by good works is that salvation by grace has its roots in forgiveness of sins which is illustrated by the parent-child r/s...whereas for salvation by good works, its roots is in karma where u have to repay every bad deed...although there is repentance and mercy, there is no forgiveness of sins...in tis case, no parent-child r/s...
i am saying this one last time...christians call our God Heavenly Father...what does Father remind you of?
Originally posted by despondent:the main difference between salvation by grace and by good works is that salvation by grace has its roots in forgiveness of sins which is illustrated by the parent-child r/s...whereas for salvation by good works, its roots is in karma where u have to repay every bad deed...although there is repentance and mercy, there is no forgiveness of sins...in tis case, no parent-child r/s...
i am saying this one last time...christians call our God Heavenly Father...what does Father remind you of?
We are children of God through Faith in Jesus's christ.
We have a personal/closed relationship with God.
amen!!! so would a parent disown a child if the child who is a rapist, murderer repents and ask for forgiveness???
Originally posted by despondent:amen!!! so would a parent disown a child if the child who is a rapist, murderer repents and ask for forgiveness???
No.
that answers why rapists, murderers who regret their actions and repent before God our Heavenly Father will not be sent to hell but instead allowed into heaven aka home...
Originally posted by despondent:that answers why rapists, murderers who regret their actions and repent before God our Heavenly Father will not be sent to hell but instead allowed into heaven aka home...
Spare the rod, spoil the kids.
wad rod are u referring to? kicking them out of heaven? parents do discipline their children...cane them, punish them but do they permanently disown them? tis of cuz is within the premise of the parents still loving their children...parents who do not love their children are not included...
if christians commit rape, murder, does God spare them by preventing the law from judging them? He doesnt...he allows his children to be punished by the law...if after being punished by the law, they still unrepentant, then he may kick them out of heaven...nbut wad if they regret wad they have done and ask him for forgiveness? they will pay for their crime while on earth but be allowed into heaven by virtue tat they repented...
if a child got expelled from school for theft for eg...does it mean the parent must disown the child and throw him/her out of the hse permanently even if the child is sorry and repentant?
Where is mother?
thats not the pt...the pt is christianity is like a parent-child r/s...u are taking literally wad i meant to be a parallel illustration...
then why non-christians can't go heaven leh ?
aiyah.....................this big loophole....................how to cover.....................
cos they are not children of God...i said b4...creation of God doesnt equal children of God...in the beginning, all of mankind was to be in heaven...but cos man fell, he was separated from God...tis is liken to a child falling out wif his parents, then left home...if the child refuses to re-acknowledge the parents, will he/she live wif the parents? is there a parent-child r/s? being out of the hse is liken to being outside of heaven...
stop...................no more......................
i'm dying of laughter here...............................
then carry on laughing...nobody is stopping u jus as u dont stop ppl from believing in christ...
how to stop the brainwashed...................?
i'm pointing out huge flaws in the fairytale................
how people can still believe in this childish tale.................i can't understand............
cos if they dont, then the parent-child r/s on earth wont make any sense to them...tat would mean all of us who grew up wif parents grew up in a fairtale...
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
then why non-christians can't go heaven leh ?
aiyah.....................this big loophole....................how to cover.....................
You must understand the wages of sin is death.
Non christian = creation of God
Christian = Children of God
God is holy, any sin seperates us from God.
One small lie is enough to seperate us from God.
Originally posted by Rooney9:so a convict, criminals, rapists, murderers all can go to heaven if they accept Jesus as saviour? but then these people, who are not repentent, goes to heaven and goes on to create havoc there, just like what they did when they were alive.
question is, without purifying your minds and heart, wherever you go, you will still be the same. heaven is a place full of convicts and criminals.
You are a sinner too. You are no different from rapist and murderer.
Only the degree and seriousness of sin is different. Maybe u din rape and kill ppl.
I am 100 percent sure you broken God's ten commandments before.
Originally posted by Taiyaki:
You must understand the wages of sin is death.Non christian = creation of God
Christian = Children of God
God is holy, any sin seperates us from God.
One small lie is enough to seperate us from God.
christians are children of God...............then why Jesus so different from you ?!
Originally posted by Taiyaki:
You are a sinner too. You are no different from rapist and murderer.Only the degree and seriousness of sin is different. Maybe u din rape and kill ppl.
I am 100 percent sure you broken God's ten commandments before.
brudder..............time to change diapers liao