Why are there so much sufferings in this world?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
ya so many paradoxes and loopholes. one example is the creation of earth in a mere 6 days? given god's power, why not an instant? you cannot even build a building in 6 months, much less the size of earth?
He did it according to his whims and fancies. The more loopholes and contradictions the more I have no respect for this so called God. -
im not a christian.. but to me, a belief system is not something to make u happy feel fair or watsoever..its only a big bed for you to fall on and rest for a moment.. make u feel better and then face the harsh facts... everything happens for a reason.. we may not know what is it... but instead of resenting, why not accept it and make it better..
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Originally posted by Mit-sy:
im not a christian.. but to me, a belief system is not something to make u happy feel fair or watsoever..its only a big bed for you to fall on and rest for a moment.. make u feel better and then face the harsh facts... everything happens for a reason.. we may not know what is it... but instead of resenting, why not accept it and make it better..
Why don't you go understand and accept the encounters of people before making such unfair and quick judgement! Christians always deny they are christians when they judge people too fast and unfairly. -
i nv stepped into a church in my life fyi...
who doesnt experience pain? who doesn't the lost of anything precious to them? everyone will experience at least once in their life. but do u sit there and blame it on anyone? or when theres nothing to blame on, then pple blame it on god whom we don't even know it truly exist?! we have seen those families with bad times... we feel sad for them or even "help" them to blame god.. ever heard of cases that some actually turned to some religions and it actually helped them take it better.. if they themself can accept the facts who r we to even resent?! if you think u feel better than them, wait till u r in their shoes, u may not even want to live another second!
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Originally posted by Mit-sy:
i nv stepped into a church in my life fyi...
who doesnt experience pain? who doesn't the lost of anything precious to them? everyone will experience at least once in their life. but do u sit there and blame it on anyone? or when theres nothing to blame on, then pple blame it on god whom we don't even know it truly exist?! we have seen those families with bad times... we feel sad for them or even "help" them to blame god.. ever heard of cases that some actually turned to some religions and it actually helped them take it better.. if they themself can accept the facts who r we to even resent?! if you think u feel better than them, wait till u r in their shoes, u may not even want to live another second!
I don;'t need you to tell me all these. I have enough encounters to know this religions. Unlike you who nvr step into the church, for people like me who have been in the chuch for many years, know the ins and outs and experienced all sorts of bully. you not in a good position to comment about my post. -
be the GOD then.. adieus~
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Originally posted by Mit-sy:
be the GOD then.. adieus~
I don't need you to tell me to be a God. If not in agreement with you I must turn to be a God, haahahhaha, ridiculous! -
After we go back heaven, there is no suffering in heaven.
We suffer temporarily in earth.
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Originally posted by Cerulean:
After we go back heaven, there is no suffering in heaven.
We suffer temporarily in earth.
is that your wishful thinking for eternal life in heaven after death?
another loophole. if there isnt rebirth concept in christianity, there shouldnt be an afterlife after death. so what do you call that? in essence, after you die, that is it, no more, but there you go, an eternal life in heaven........
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QUESTION: But if there are no gods how did the universe get here?
ANSWER: All religions have myths and stories which attempt to answer this question. In ancient times, when man simply did not know, such myths were adequate, but in the 20th century, in the age of physics, astronomy and geology, such myths have been superseded by scientific fact. Science has explained the origin of the universe without recourse to the god-idea.
QUESTION: But so many people believe in some form of god, it must be true.
ANSWER: Not so. There was a time when everyone believed that the world was flat, but they were all wrong. The number of people who believe in an idea is no measure of the truth or falsehood of that idea. The only way we can tell whether an idea is true or not is by looking at the facts and examining the evidence.
QUESTION: You say there is no evidence for the existence of a god. But what about miracles?
ANSWER: There are many who believe that miracles are proof of gods existence. We hear wild claims that a healing has taken place but we never get an independent testimony from a medical office or a surgeon. We hear second-hand reports that someone was miraculously saved from disaster but we never get an eye-witness account of what is supposed to have happened. We hear rumours that prayer straightened a diseased body or strengthened a withered limb, but we never see X-rays or get comments from doctors or nurses. Wild claims, second-hand reports and rumours are no substitute for solid evidence and solid evidence of miracles is very rare. However, sometimes unexplained things do happen, unexpected events do occur. But our inability to explain such things does not prove the existence of gods. It only proves that our knowledge is as yet incomplete. Before the development of modern medicine, when people didn’t know what caused sickness people believed that god or the gods sent diseases as a punishment. Now we know what causes such things and when we get sick, we take medicine. In time when our knowledge of the world is more complete, we will be able to understand what causes unexplained phenomena, just as we can now understand what causes disease.
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Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of gods in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god or gods gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered.
There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god’s words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god’s nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found.
Some claim that the belief in a god is necessary in order to explain the origin of the universe. But this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being without having to introduce the god-idea.
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Originally posted by Cerulean:
After we go back heaven, there is no suffering in heaven.
We suffer temporarily in earth.
can you kindly tell me why we can't exist in heaven right from day one ?
i find it so pointless to suffer on earth then ''die'' and later go heaven or hell.
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There is suffering because we got many stupid and intolerent people in this world . Don't see no love.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
There is suffering because we got many stupid and intolerent people in this world . Don't see no love.
are you saying your faith and yourself included? u mean people like Rony Tan and the many pastors are tolerant people, you must be joking and deluding yourself man.as for stupid, after so many loopholes and paradoxes and you still believe in it, you bet.
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It all depends on likes and dislikes, thats why there is suffering.
If you get what you like, where is the suffering.
If you get what you dislike, its suffering.
Does not matter if you smart or stupid, rich or poor.
Stanley Ho is rich and smart, you think he is not suffering.
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when you don't get what you want, it's suffering
then you're afraid of losing what you have, it's suffering
when you run out of things to want, it's also suffering
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
are you saying your faith and yourself included? u mean people like Rony Tan and the many pastors are tolerant people, you must be joking and deluding yourself man.as for stupid, after so many loopholes and paradoxes and you still believe in it, you bet.
Hell yeah, including my own faith but not me. But u are definately one of the. Straight enough answer ? I let you do ur usual asssumptions. I dont see where u get that I think Rony Tan and many pastors are tolerant people. Speaking of deluding onself, I think u are in ur own delusion and are stuck in your own paradox. Your paradoxes have all been answered over n over again. Ask something new and more stimulating. I feel stupid by regurgitating to stupid people over n over again.
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Wait.. maybe I am also intolerent and lack of love. Maybe cause I just get intolerent to the likes of yous .. mmm.. yeah. Makes sense. Hard to love people like you though. Gotta admit. hahaha
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let me rephrase the qn, why are they so many ppl born normal and livinf in 1st and 2nd world countries? who do we give credit to for such blessed ppl?
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are there more deformed ppl or normally formed ppl?
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Originally posted by despondent:
are there more deformed ppl or normally formed ppl?
Do you mean normal formed people don't suffer. There are many formed people suffer from all kinds of diseases and on and off will have virus and infection. I don't see a need to create virus and bacterias. The worse thing is all living things will suffer from dying. Have you seen how people suffer before death ? The very old ones can't even eat and need to be fed, very weak can't even walk and talk.
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my pt is is the world really void of blessings? if blessings do exist, then who/wad do we credit them to?
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Originally posted by despondent:
my pt is is the world really void of blessings? if blessings do exist, then who/wad do we credit them to?
We are very blessed to live in Singapore and our government is stable.I thank God for It.
Thank you God.
God will be with me when disasters happened.
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Originally posted by despondent:
my pt is is the world really void of blessings? if blessings do exist, then who/wad do we credit them to?
We don't have to thank anybody because we did not ask to be born or created. -
We do need to thank God for a peaceful and prosperous countries.