Is God is kind enough to spare U from hell if not Christian?

• Servant

  2 Oct 11, 21:15

  Sorry, I seem to have problems posting. Hi Alize, I actually did mention non-Christians in my post too. What I said was that at the end of the day, God looks into our hearts and knows what our intentions are. He is love, so if people act out of love for others, even if they are non-Christian, they will have the same opportunity as Christians to spend eternal life with the Lord. So yes, this includes people who have never heard of Christianity and infants, since they are incapable of making a moral decision at that age.
• alize

  2 Oct 11, 21:53

  But will non-Christians be punished as well as rewarded?

  Jesus said that those who believe for all of their life, half their life, or just their last years will be rewarded equally, in Matthew 20:1 He did not mention a reward for loving people do not believe at all.

  He also said that "the only way to God is through me" in Isiah 45:21. Was he saying that non-believers will not go to heaven (see God)?

• gorgorlokaychyong

  3 Oct 11, 00:59

  Originally posted by alize:

  But will non-Christians be punished as well as rewarded?

  Jesus said that those who believe for all of their life, half their life, or just their last years will be rewarded equally, in Matthew 20:1 He did not mention a reward for loving people do not believe at all.

  He also said that "the only way to God is through me" in Isiah 45:21. Was he saying that non-believers will not go to heaven (see God)?

  The gospel is very clear to convey message that only those who accept him will be rewarded.    

• gorgorlokaychyong

  3 Oct 11, 01:01

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  eternal life? is there an entity that is never changing and lasts forever? even the sun or the earth lasts forever, as one day it will die out.

  change is the constant isnt it. this is a universal law or truth, not created nor destroyed, just like energy  that cannot be created or destroyed.

  Christianity is base on God and God alone not on universal law or truth.    I don't buy this, unfortunately.

• dragg

  3 Oct 11, 08:46

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  christians dun believe im rebirth isnt it. why the second coming of Jesus? there should be no rebirth in heaven once one die, as this lifetime should be last. see the paradox here?

  there is no rebirth.  if you die before judgement day you wait in 7th heaven for that day to be judged.

• dragg

  3 Oct 11, 08:48

  Originally posted by Servant:

  Sorry, I seem to have problems posting.

  Hi Alize, I actually did mention non-Christians in my post too. What I said was that at the end of the day, God looks into our hearts and knows what our intentions are. He is love, so if people act out of love for others, even if they are non-Christian, they will have the same opportunity as Christians to spend eternal life with the Lord.

  So yes, this includes people who have never heard of Christianity and infants, since they are incapable of making a moral decision at that age.

  you preached differently.  according to all other christians the minimum requirement to go to heaven is to believe in god first.  the rest later.

   

• Servant

  3 Oct 11, 11:11

  Alize Jesus mentioned very clearly who will be admitted into His kingdom in Matt 25:31-46. Will these people be Christians? Not necessarily - it will be those who have reached out to others. As James 2:14-26 also mentioned, no point trumpeting the fact that we are Christians if we don't lift a finger to help others. And according to 1 Corinthians 13, which of the 3 Christian virtues of Faith, Hope and Love are the most important? Yes, no one goes to the Father except through Jesus Christ, because He enables all good and holy people, including non-Christians who have loved the way He did, to enter His kingdom.
• Servant

  3 Oct 11, 11:16

  Dragg Not true, many Christians also believe in faith and acts of charity for salvation. Actually, ALL Christians believed in this for 1500 years from the time of Jesus Christ until differing beliefs started taking shape after that.
• alize

  3 Oct 11, 15:16

  That is a very comforting statement because Heaven would be a poorer place without so many good souls.

  However if your interpretation is not correct and others are barred from entering heaven for relying on it, do you think you will also be barred?

• Servant

  3 Oct 11, 16:19

  Alize Frankly, I don't worry about this because Jesus Christ gave us His church - the church that existed from day 1 since His resurrection and has not changed till now, 2000 years later, to guide us along. So it is not my interpretation, but that of a billion other people united in faith. And the God that the church reveals to us - the one and the same God that I know, is not a God that runs heaven like an exclusive membership club for only Christians. He is a God who is compassionate and merciful to all, and all we have to do is to respond to His invitation and do His will - showing His love to others.
• Rooney9

  3 Oct 11, 16:22

  compassionate? look at the wars, injustices, genocide....... do I even need to continue? if there is a god and he is almighty and doesnt do a thing, then what differences does it made if there is a god or not.

  not to mention there is no proof god exists. to me god exists in the bible, just like spiderman exists in DC comics. it cannot even set this record straight that earth was round, not square.

• alize

  3 Oct 11, 16:52

  I really don't think your interpretation is shared by most Christians.

• Rooney9

  3 Oct 11, 16:55

  likewise I dun think christians interpretation is shared by non christians. glad you can see this reasoning.

• mancha

  3 Oct 11, 16:56

  God is not Christian, you think God pray to Jesus, or any other god. So God is not Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, or Jain, or any other religion because he is above all of them.

  So whether you go to heaven or hell depends on merit, not membership. 

  But it also does not means all those who believe in the PAP, join PAP, vote for PAP will  be automatically entering heaven.

   

• Rooney9

  3 Oct 11, 17:00

  thought god is not a human, doesnt have a human form, so why got he? only humans got gender like male or female.

• alize

  3 Oct 11, 17:04

  Originally posted by mancha:

  God is not Christian, you think God pray to Jesus, or any other god. So God is not Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, or Jain, or any other religion because he is above all of them.

  So whether you go to heaven or hell depends on merit, not membership. 

  But it also means all those who believe in the PAP, join PAP, vote for PAP will  be automatically entering heaven.

   

  That is a baseless claim. God is above justice and goodness. He can do as He chooses, it may not be just and good but it will still be Just and Good. If only believers enter, it may be unfair but it will still be Fair.

  He is all-powerful, so we are in no position to challenge him. You make noise, He won't listen.

  Those you mentioned, they will be the FT in heaven. But Heaven is perfect, so they won't have right of permanent stay. Pass expire, go back.

• mancha

  3 Oct 11, 17:07

  God cannot tell a lie. That means God cannot everything.

• Rooney9

  3 Oct 11, 17:10

  there are so many loopholes in the bible, lots of it doesnt make any sense, not to mention contradiction.

  I am still trying to make sense out of these senselessness.

• mancha

  3 Oct 11, 17:15

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  there are so many loopholes in the bible, lots of it doesnt make any sense, not to mention contradiction.

  I am still trying to make sense out of these senselessness.

  That means you are still reading the Bible.

• Rooney9

  3 Oct 11, 17:18

  Originally posted by mancha:

  That means you are still reading the Bible.

  no I aint. but I know some of the contradictions and paradoxes

• gorgorlokaychyong

  3 Oct 11, 22:06

  God god god, boring!    

• Susanteo2011

  5 Oct 11, 22:50

   

   

   

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• dragg

  7 Oct 11, 16:46

  Originally posted by Servant:

  Dragg

  Not true, many Christians also believe in faith and acts of charity for salvation. Actually, ALL Christians believed in this for 1500 years from the time of Jesus Christ until differing beliefs started taking shape after that.

  so are you saying many christians are getting it wrong nowadays?

  many christians do not believe good works is a requirement to attain salvation.  believing in god alone is enough.

   

• alize

  7 Oct 11, 21:37

  Originally posted by Servant:

  Alize

  Jesus mentioned very clearly who will be admitted into His kingdom in Matt 25:31-46. Will these people be Christians? Not necessarily – it will be those who have reached out to others. As James 2:14-26 also mentioned, no point trumpeting the fact that we are Christians if we don’t lift a finger to help others. And according to 1 Corinthians 13, which of the 3 Christian virtues of Faith, Hope and Love are the most important?

  Yes, no one goes to the Father except through Jesus Christ, because He enables all good and holy people, including non-Christians who have loved the way He did, to enter His kingdom.

  I see. As a Christian, if I bring thousands to God but take huge amounts of money from them to enrich myself, will I go to heaven?

• Servant

  8 Oct 11, 00:15

  Dragg Perhaps. If Christians believed in both faith AND acts of charity for the first 1500 years, who are we to suddenly change that? If you look at all the parables that Jesus spoke about in the Gospels, ask yourself honestly - are they mostly about faith or acts of charity? Alize What do you think is the answer?