Originally posted by CKeer:
i beg to differ.
when it comes to team sports, the result of 1+1 does not always give u the result of 2.
arsenal looked distorted when they sold vieira, but they are now in champ final with new talents like fabregas.
Oh really? I think they're riding on their luck as well as their talismatic striker Henry. Like Liverpool, if Henry leaves Arsenal, they'll be out of top 5.
man utd sacked their inspirational captain, roy keane but they end the season with 2nd placing.
Fergie has his own way of doing things. Look at how United coped without Ince(Went to Inter then to *er-hem* Liverpool), Stam, Beckham and other players? Yes, no doubt that Keane is inspirational. But his influence is fading as he reaches retirement. 2nd placing was, honestly speaking, a little underperformed if u compared the money spent in recent years.
all teams have certain degree of dependacy on someone/something like how liverpool rely on stevie at times. after all, we dont call it a team sport for nothing. try imagine how it is like for chelsea without roman's money, man utd without freguson/rooney and arsenal without henry/wenger.
so to say liverpool is a goner without stevie is a harsh statement, considering that he is a product from liverpool's academy. plus, it not as if liverpool did not win a single game without gerrard.
United, without Rooney, can survive. Look at the last EPL match of the season. They thrased Chalton 4-0. Chelsea will DEFINITELY perish on earth if one day the russian decides to pull the plug. Arsenal is nothing without Henry.
Do u think Liverpool can win last year's Champions League and this year's F.A Cup without Gerrard's massive contributions? Do u think Rafael Benitez can still sit comfortably in his office in the event that Gerrard is sold?
Gerrard has, time and again, saved Benitez's ass. Anyway, Benitez is another Houllier, a spaniard version, only a little better. Pray hard that he won't spend all of the transfer kitty on failed spaniards like Josemi and Morientes.
Cheers.
C.K
seems to me, there arent many clubs around deserve your admiration as a whole, at least not in EPL.
liverpool is nothing without gerrard.
arsenal is nothing without henry and luck.
chelsea is nothing without money.
spurs is nothing without jol.
man utd is not even within comparison given that you regard 2nd placing as underperforming. (btw, man utd thrashed a team whom manager was busy planning his vacation)
players evolve, so do clubs.
if gerrard had gone to chelsea last summer, liverpool would have find alternate means to fill up the gap like how fabregas over vieira. (still rem how fabregas showed vieira a lesson or two when arsenal last met juventus?)
i would see liverpool being a better team with gerrard than nothing without him.
as i have mentioned, gerrard is a product of liverpool academy. with that, i can easily say that gerrard is nothing without liverpool.
simiarly, if wenger didnt buy henry from juventus, he would have rot there and probably under investigation for fixing matches now, let alone being the player responsible to keep arsenal within top 5.
btw, i dont even know if we could have discuss about liverpool's FA cup success if reina didnt make the last ditch save and stopped three penalties. gerrard brought the team beyond extra time, but he still has to rely on reina to perform in the sudden death. so is liverpool nothing without reina?
and if we really want to trace all the way back, it was crouch who met finnan cross to win manchester united before they crossing swords with chelsea and west ham. so is liverpool nothing without crouch?
dont simply see things in one sided manner. i know its easier but doesnt tell u much about how team sport works.