Euro 2008 Qualifier : England vs Macedonia
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Up to date , playing with 30 minutes to go ....0-0 , against minnows Macedonia .
Another pathetic team display by England .
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Mclaren still insist on the Gerrard / Lampard pairing ... both not in their best of form lately ..... most undesirable is ......Lampard as a defensive midfielder ?
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england will perform like tis as long as mclaren is at the helm.
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can't really blame the guys , the Macedonian came to defend ....... 4 men at the back , with an extra man just infront , they simply closed England uo in the centre , forcing england to go wing play , and they just man-mark Crouch when England crossed , so ......
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carrick gary neville and rooney is the main problem
and how many times did lampard cover for carrick ? carrick run so slow can't even cover much area,put parker so that lampard can attack......and lampard suppose to be AMF not DMF/CMF......Si Carrick
Gary Neville (lacking stamina) , Carrick slow and dun cover much area , Rooney Off FORM !
and seems like gerrard is lacking stamina from 75 minutes onwards not offense to LFC fans but if u got watch the match u understand what i mean
Crouch okay should be able to perform soon
Ledley King Conquered the Defence..........hope that king get the nod ahead of Rio And Carrick Drop For Parker.......i think the only reason Carrick played because he is a man utd player.............he look like a headless chicken on the field during england vs macedonia
Phil Neville For Gary Neville And Darren Bent For Ro0ney until rooney perform 4 man utd
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Bullsh*t of a game.
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McClaren to call-up Middlesbrough's Woodgate
tribalfooball.com - October 09, 2006
England boss Steve McClaren is hopeful of being able to include Middlesbrough defender Jonathan Woodgate in his squad for next month's friendly against Holland.
The England coach ran the rule over Woodgate in Boro's last match at Sheffield United and is ready to hand him a recall for the match in the Amsterdam Arena on November 15.
McClaren has been impressed with Woodgate's form since he joined Boro this season on a season-long loan from Real Madrid.
Now Woodgate is poised to end his spell in the international wilderness if he can remain injury-free.
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LAMPARD TARGETS CROATIA RECORD
By John Curtis, PA Sport
Frank Lampard has admitted there is greater onus on England to end Croatia's 16-year unbeaten home record in competitive matches on Wednesday after flopping against Macedonia in the European Championship qualifier at Old Trafford.
England produced a dismal performance in their goalless draw, although they still top their group with seven points from three matches but only on goal difference from Israel.
Croatia's only defeat on home spoil since gaining their independence in 1990 being in a friendly to France in 2000, but Lampard knows England need a positive result.
Lampard, who win his 50th cap on Wednesday, said: "It was going to be difficult irrespective of Saturday's game but when you drop points you want to make sure you don't drop any more.
"By no means can you take for granted we are going to get the three points. We know the atmosphere in games in eastern Europe is pretty hostile and there are a lot of things we have to overcome to try and win that game.
"Ideally we would have taken three points from the home game and gone to Croatia looking to draw or win - but now there is that bit more onus on trying to go there and win.
"It is potentially the hardest game in the group, although Russia and Israel away will also be difficult. They will test us.
"But we have got to stand up on Wednesday to a hostile crowd, a good technical side and show what we are about as a team."
England will be without Lampard's long-time midfield partner Steven Gerrard, who will be suspended after collecting his second yellow card in the qualifiers.
Lampard, who scored his first England goal against Croatia three years ago, said: "Steven will be a big loss. He is such a big player for England but it is time for someone else to step up and show what they can do."
Shaun Wright-Phillips, Scott Parker and Phil Neville will all come into contention depending on whether coach Steve McClaren opts for a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 formation.
Lampard believes England's confidence should not be eroded by their first setback under new boss McClaren but insists England were always bracing themselves for a tough battle to qualify for Austria and Switzerland in 2008.
He said: "You shouldn't have self doubt after that one game. It is important to stay together and stay focused as a team.
"We are a realistic bunch and all know international football is not a breeze.
"Sometimes you think you have got the hang of it - but you don't always win games. We have to look at the negatives, the things we didn't do well and put them right. But we have to stay positive."
hope so.......hope that SWP can play on the right wing replacing the suspended gerrad @ the starting line up and parker for carrick and phil neville for gary neville and Darren Bent For Rooney until rooney score for man utd
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some of the comments posted by user on lampard performance in the match
Postives of Lampard
chelkevcov, Chelsea fan.
Why is everyone slating lampard. England did enough to win the game, they just didnt take their chances. More to blame is the finishing of Gary Neville and Peter Crouch! I for one would play the same team for Wednesday!
By boywonder
"I really am tired of the campaign of hate shown towards Frank Lampard because of cowboy journalists, The bitter, middle aged press reps are doing their best to warp the publics perception of the game beyond recognition, so keep on and massage the tabliod press collective ego and the England team will be weaker as A result of this flippancy.
A man can only take so much of unjistfied Criticsm and it is plain to see the public campaign against Lampard is affecting his Confidence, never once the did the Newspapers express that Gerrards permanent lack of form for England might eventually lose his place in the team in euro 2004 when Lampard was voted by our fickle fans has our best player, It all goes back to the world cup When the media (chelsea haters) who by the way mostly support Liverpool could not take the fact that Lampard was taking his crown, now everytime Lampard has A avergae game, The media exgerate the truth and its all U that read Cant stand up and be strong enough to make up your own minds"
mcgroin86, Stockport County fan.
I just finished reading an article about Lampard, that he started to doubt himself after the World Cup because he didn't score, didn't play particularly well and began to listen to the public's view.
It hit me quite hard - we forget that footballers are people, and people are totally lambasting players like Lampard it affects them, and destroys their confidence.
I never really thought about it until now. This'll be the last time I come on and b*tch about players, instead we should think of ways they can improve rather than say 'OUT OUT OUT.'
And as for Frank, he's finally got the lead role in centre midfield on wednesday, so with the right selection, I expect good things from England. -
Negative/Bias/Untrue Comments On Lampard
carl, Manchester United fan.
Frank Lampard continues to under perform for England yet he is always picked. Its tmie for an England coach to show some balls and drop some big names if they arent performing.
it is time not tmie typo error carl........
sandbagger, Liverpool fan.
boywonder,i haven't read a national paper since1974and i wouldn't need one to see Lampard's not doing it.
did gerrard or rooney or crouch or anyone do it during the match ? gerrard miss a open shot pass by chelsea player SWP after dribbling past 3 players and crouch miss header........and rooney off form dun dun doing what......downing not fast and trickey enough........carrick slow and lousy dmf......lampard did reasonably well........and the defenders did well too.....and SWP had a excellent performance despite the amount of time given to him on the field -
why i have a feeling everytime rooney was in the start line-up, england performed like shit?
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nah that talented young teenager not yet hit his "Average" form can see from his dribbling and shooting let alone movement on the pitchOriginally posted by 798:why i have a feeling everytime rooney was in the start line-up, england performed like shit? -
Just another poor poor performance..
Tot they playing 3-5-2 ?
I tot its a good formation to try..
Time to move Gerrard back to centre... -
3-5-2? nah.. the players prefer 4-4-2 so mclacren suck thumb loh.Originally posted by edi_77777:Just another poor poor performance..
Tot they playing 3-5-2 ?
I tot its a good formation to try..
Time to move Gerrard back to centre... -
i saw the paper manager trained them 3-5-2, but players want 4-4-2. last min then switch to 4-4-2, so players cannot adapt.Originally posted by monoslayer:3-5-2? nah.. the players prefer 4-4-2 so mclacren suck thumb loh.
as usual, england players like to blame tis blame dat. -
appointing mclaren as the manager is a big mistake. england will NEVER achieve anything under his charge. make no mistake, i respect him as a gentleman but he is only good enough to b an assistant.
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one thing i admire tis guy is the fact he's willing to axe beckham who is the main root of england failure.Originally posted by monoslayer:appointing mclaren as the manager is a big mistake. england will NEVER achieve anything under his charge. make no mistake, i respect him as a gentleman but he is only good enough to b an assistant.
axeing beckham will show the rest there is no such thing as 'untouchable' players.
but things i dun like bout mclaren is he's selecting some of scum players to just make up the squad. -
I dun understand why a player underperform from world cup till now still in the first team? And when the player not played well in the game was not taken out immediately?? SM seem like no plan B! And still ppl can ask DB to come back! yes he is good in some way but England is not a 24 men country!
How narrow the view of the managemant had let many supporter down.
It is really a joke in soccer world. -
y is beckham the main root of england failure? IMO, he is an invaluable asset to the team. he always lead by example when he had the captain armband.Originally posted by 798:one thing i admire tis guy is the fact he's willing to axe beckham who is the main root of england failure.
axeing beckham will show the rest there is no such thing as 'untouchable' players.
but things i dun like bout mclaren is he's selecting some of scum players to just make up the squad. -
he is only good for his set-piece, but he is zero in other area! lead by example? i afraid he is setting a bad example by showing off his ear-rings n hair-style.Originally posted by monoslayer:y is beckham the main root of england failure? IMO, he is an invaluable asset to the team. he always lead by example when he had the captain armband.
n not forgeting his wife n WAGs too.
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Without Henry Arsenal can win in UCL, without DB England is a headless chicken. Terry need to start getting use to be a leader, the team lack plan, motivation and leadership. They are playing a selfish game, most are going for the honour.
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supporters may not necessary get it right. all along they have been treating rooney as saviour. but rooney has been a letdown as shown in world cup campaign for dat sending off.Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:I dun understand why a player underperform from world cup till now still in the first team? And when the player not played well in the game was not taken out immediately?? SM seem like no plan B! And still ppl can ask DB to come back! yes he is good in some way but England is not a 24 men country!
How narrow the view of the managemant had let many supporter down.
It is really a joke in soccer world.
i believe there's no such thing as players selection is due to their past contribution. michael owen n david beckham should retire for good imo. -
England do have a pool of telant to select, is just need a good manager.
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dat's the problem wif england players' mentality, they alway have tis thinking of depending a player too much. for the past 3 matches, england was performing well even without rooney, but when rooney came back, everyone were expecting him to deliver n when he dun perform, everyone had no idea wat they were doing.Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:Without Henry Arsenal can win in UCL, without DB England is a headless chicken. Terry need to start getting use to be a leader, the team lack plan, motivation and leadership. They are playing a selfish game, most are going for the honour.
beckham should be use as sub in my opinion, cos he just stepped down only, there might be dispute if he is in the team n he might even boss terry n the team around.