Rafa's best buy so far? Can he do it again?
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you only judge by 1 goal CKeer ? what a jokeOriginally posted by CKeer: -
liddat call flop ah?Originally posted by ghimpheng:
and pennant have the pace but all he know is to cross cross cross
ok his crossing is good but without crouch his crossing is useless
combine pennant and crouch and u might get a goal or 2
can run, can cross can liao..
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if his crosses are not converted into goals those crosses are useless ! he put in so many crosses during the ucl game but none end up in the back of the net what the use of those crosses thenOriginally posted by club18:liddat call flop ah?
can run, can cross can liao..
wat more u want?
that why they need to put crouch
pennant can improve more by going pass defender instead of crossing most of the time
and he is scoring too less goals consider that he rarely track back and defence
And do liverpool fans really think Pennant and Kuyt can win you the EPL title ?
it is obvious they 2 are the flops signing benitez made
I beileve Pennant still can improve alot , Kuyt don't seems to be able to improve much
i beileve a combination of Pennant And Crouch would be great -
Did i make any comments on whether he's a flop or not? No?Originally posted by ghimpheng:you only judge by 1 goal CKeer ? what a joke
Cheers.
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the intention of your post is obviousOriginally posted by CKeer:Did i make any comments on whether he's a flop or not? No?
Cheers.
CK
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It's ok, your knowledge of soccer is afterall.....Originally posted by ghimpheng:dots...
pennant and kuyt is indeed a flop
sumone actually think that pennat is good ?
Not to forget your objectivity isn't much either. Like I said, not fantastic, but to brand him a flop? Sheesh...... -
And what intention do i have? Do i stand to gain anything? No?Originally posted by ghimpheng:the intention of your post is obvious
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No. Pennant and Kuyt cannot be considered flop.
Key reasons why.
Rmb that Gerrard goal he scored against Bolton. That half volley kung fu kick on new years day if im not wrong. Who set it up? It was good movement between Kuyt and Pennant.
Wad about Alvaro and Pennant key passing that led to the first goal and later the demolition of Arsenal. This can go on and on, but really, Liverpool have more attackin options with the 2 of them.
Kuyt and Pennant movement are good and Pennant crosses have turned into goals. That same match at bolton, u guys rmbed who crossed for Crouch to do his carbon copy of galastasary scissors kick? Pennant. His taking the right corners and his crosses are wad premiership strikers need. Pace, anticipation and inviting crosses. The goal against Wigan, Pennant could cross for Kuyt even though kuyt is nowhere near Crouch height. Those are the crosses that have the aforementioned 3 qualities.
To label them as flops, i really think its too much. Wads more they were not expensive and really proved worth the value alr.
Kuyt has scored more goals than Drogba when he started his first season. =)
Pennant has crossed less than 476 crosses his did at Birmingham the last 2 season but the crosses has turned into more goals
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if Rafa is like you refuse to admit they are flops
Liverpool won't win the EPL titles like this
kuyt have lesser assist than Drogba
And Drogba obviously can improve and become a better player
but i can't see that kuyt will improve much
pennant still can improve but he is a flop this season
i think kuyt is a permanent flop while pennant is a temporary flop as he still can improve provided he is given more 1st team chances -
haha no liverpool players / New signings are flop ? happy ?Originally posted by SumOne:It's ok, your knowledge of soccer is afterall.....
Not to forget your objectivity isn't much either. Like I said, not fantastic, but to brand him a flop? Sheesh...... -
hahaha.. how u noe which player can improve n which cannot??? u only wtach them play abt 90 mins per week n still dare to say all this... LOL..Originally posted by ghimpheng:if Rafa is like you refuse to admit they are flops
Liverpool won't win the EPL titles like this
kuyt have lesser assist than Drogba
And Drogba obviously can improve and become a better player
but i can't see that kuyt will improve much
pennant still can improve but he is a flop this season
i think kuyt is a permanent flop while pennant is a temporary flop as he still can improve provided he is given more 1st team chances -
To give you the benefit of a doubt, I think you have a different yardstick in considering whether players are flops or not. However, I do suspect you won't use that same yardstick with Chelsea players.Originally posted by ghimpheng:if Rafa is like you refuse to admit they are flops
Liverpool won't win the EPL titles like this
kuyt have lesser assist than Drogba
And Drogba obviously can improve and become a better player
but i can't see that kuyt will improve much
pennant still can improve but he is a flop this season
i think kuyt is a permanent flop while pennant is a temporary flop as he still can improve provided he is given more 1st team chances
A flop would be someone with no genuine contribution to the team, which really isn't the case with Kuyt and Pennant. I believe they've made more contribution to Liverpool than for eg (since you claim to know Chelsea well), Ballack and Shevchenko. Decided not to use any other players from other clubs because you'd probably just pan all of them.
Since you talked about Drogba, he has played brilliantly this season and truely deserves his African player of the year award. He contribution to the team is immense and goes beyond scoring goals. Chelsea tends to struggle at times without him. However, you can't keep comparing everyone to him and claim they are flops because they are not like Drogba this season. It's like comparing every player to Ronaldino when he was having a good spell at Barcelona.
Going by your standards on what a flop is, not to be anti-Chelsea but to better illustrate to you, Chelsea would have more flops than Liverpool. Ballack, Sheva, Boularhuz, Mikel, Ferreira would all be flops too based on your yardstick. Although I wouldn't label all of them flops, I'm just using the same standards with which you criticise other players of other clubs.
Note; sometimes, it's not your opinion that irritates people but rather your arrogant attitude and the you-know-it-all that makes even your own Chelsea fans find you an eyesore. You have mellowed and improved over time, but just be careful not to get carried away at times. -
You don't get the point. Haiz. Nvm......Originally posted by ghimpheng:haha no liverpool players / New signings are flop ? happy ? -
Not fantastic is one thing, being a flop is a different thing.
To rephrase, not fantastic doesn't mean flop. -
i think pennant did well tis season
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??? If u are a Chelsea fan i think u better be more careful with ur choice of words. Compare Drogba when its his 3rd season at EPL? With Kuyt's 1 season? And u labelled him as aa flop and someone who cant improve very much?!
Omg.. dun even say chelsea fan even a derby county fan knw wad is flop and wad is not. U wanna know wad is flop ah? Look at ur own 30m sheva lor. 4 goals and 30 games... That is flop.
Kuyt scored 14 goals for liverpool in his first season and he cost only 9 m. Wow... now thats not bad for a 'flop' isnt it?
I really think u are too much lo.. and some people even call u arrogant .. and having the know it all attitude. Now im not believing them but i really think u can do better with ur analysis of the game as a big picture and not down to just ur own thinking that jus bcos we kicked chelsea a**es u not happy suan our players and anyhow say that they are flops.
btw.. u are a chelsea fan? Confirm with us lehz.. -
Chill.Originally posted by Cullen[10]:??? If u are a Chelsea fan i think u better be more careful with ur choice of words. Compare Drogba when its his 3rd season at EPL? With Kuyt's 1 season? And u labelled him as aa flop and someone who cant improve very much?!
Omg.. dun even say chelsea fan even a derby county fan knw wad is flop and wad is not. U wanna know wad is flop ah? Look at ur own 30m sheva lor. 4 goals and 30 games... That is flop.
Kuyt scored 14 goals for liverpool in his first season and he cost only 9 m. Wow... now thats not bad for a 'flop' isnt it?
I really think u are too much lo.. and some people even call u arrogant .. and having the know it all attitude. Now im not believing them but i really think u can do better with ur analysis of the game as a big picture and not down to just ur own thinking that jus bcos we kicked chelsea a**es u not happy suan our players and anyhow say that they are flops.
btw.. u are a chelsea fan? Confirm with us lehz..
You must understand, Ghimpheng's understanding of soccer isn't very good, but he think he knows a lot if not, everything. The baseline with GP is this, Chelsea and anything Chelsea is good, anything else is a failure.
He likes to emulate Mourinho especially on sgforums, and he does it blindly. He does what he does sometimes because he thinks it's 'cool' or something. But Mourinho does it to help the team, GP's a posuer at best. Mourinho does what he does to help the team, and as a physcological ploy at times. Why GP does it? To help who? Now that's a different thing.
Comment on GP, reply to him, but no need to get angry with him. At most laugh at him when he proves how silly and how shallow his soccer is. But no need to get angry with him. -
I would gladly listen to GP comments.
Hmm.. btw lets see the difference between Rafa and Mourinho. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Q6NGpJ7mk -
Ok, he may be full of nonsense, but there's never any need to get angry over him. Be it angry at him or for him.Originally posted by Cullen[10]:I would gladly listen to GP comments.
Hmm.. btw lets see the difference between Rafa and Mourinho. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Q6NGpJ7mk -
hahaha... so now i knw who GP is.. the one who owes soulwinner 500 bucks.. hahaha
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i didn't owe him any moneyOriginally posted by Cullen[10]:hahaha... so now i knw who GP is.. the one who owes soulwinner 500 bucks.. hahaha
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haha i think you are the one thinking you yourself opinions are the best and that YOU like to TARGET me especiallyOriginally posted by SumOne:Chill.
You must understand, Ghimpheng's understanding of soccer isn't very good, but he think he knows a lot if not, everything. The baseline with GP is this, Chelsea and anything Chelsea is good, anything else is a failure.
He likes to emulate Mourinho especially on sgforums, and he does it blindly. He does what he does sometimes because he thinks it's 'cool' or something. But Mourinho does it to help the team, GP's a posuer at best. Mourinho does what he does to help the team, and as a physcological ploy at times. Why GP does it? To help who? Now that's a different thing.
Comment on GP, reply to him, but no need to get angry with him. At most laugh at him when he proves how silly and how shallow his soccer is. But no need to get angry with him. -
aren't you taking it too personal?Originally posted by ghimpheng:haha i think you are the one thinking you yourself opinions are the best and that YOU like to TARGET me especially
stfu, really. we all get sick and tired of your senseless and childish rantings and whinings. -.-
he is correct when he said that even your own chelsea fans are turned-off by you. time to self-reflect, kid. -
hah! GP... lol..
U just dun respect other ppl comments can u? haha so many people i have seen want u down. Nevertheless, i do not want to waste my precious fingers typing. Learn to grow up and stop givin useless comments... -
Haiz... always coming up with weird facts.Originally posted by ghimpheng:haha i think you are the one thinking you yourself opinions are the bestand that YOU like to TARGET me especially
I'm not commenting on you only. Never was. Moreover, others won't have the chance to comment on you if you didn't keep doing silly stuff. You know your own agenda, and it's not about sharing factual soccer news.
You act and behave like Mourinho and turn yourself into a human dart board with the things you say yet you blame others? Be responsible, like I said, you know your real agenda, most of us do.
If you want to emulate Mourinho blindly but can't take the stick, then stop. I doubt you realise what you're doing anyway.
Mourinho does what he does to help Chelsea as a team and very often is just a psychological ploy. Sometimes against his opponents, and very often to lift his team. Everything he does, he does it with the team at heart. He stopped putting on the front when competition was off.
By emulating Mourinho blindly here, who are you helping? The other Chelsea fans? Even the other Chelsea fans reject you, including mods of the Chelsea forum. You should reflect on yourself and what you are doing.
With you, it seems like you're more preoccupied with hating other clubs (esp the club that beat you for EPL). You're not helping anyone, only creating enemies unnecessarily. Maybe enemies mean nothing to you, or the more the merrier, because you think that's what Mourinho's about. It isn't, with Mourinho it's always about for the team and what helps the team. Is what you are doing helping the other Chelsea fans? They have already spoken, you just refuse to listen.
You behave in a way that knowingly attracts negative attention from everyone including Chelsea fans, yet you blame everyone else for all other reasons. You accuse Stella and eemtj for not being supporters, you blame Liverpool fans, Man U fans. There's a problem with everyone but you. So who's the one who's in over himself and thinks only his opinion is the best or the only thing that matters?
What I'm saying about you though is nothing new, it's already common knowledge about you by now.
