Silent Rage or Racial Harmony
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I've felt a very strong undercurrent of racism in Singapore in recent years. Maybe I was too ignorant to feel that before, and wasn't at the forefront. There is very strong racial pride in Singapore when it comes to being prejudiced in Singapore, even to the extent of saying another particular race is inferior. I think everyone has prejudices, but the limit's really up to the point where you actually believe that your race and genes are superior to another. I'm sick of staying in Singapore.
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its every where. racism is a norm when there are 2 or more race living together. the only difference is the extent or degree of racism. in singapore, i agree that there is racism but it is rather discreet. plp dun go onto streets or make banners to publicly critcize on another race. to me, this is good enough.
think about this, even mother and son quarrel over things sometimes, why not plp of different race? -
Yes I know. But it is saddening that people have the Hitler mentality that their genes are superior..Originally posted by dibilo:its every where. racism is a norm when there are 2 or more race living together. the only difference is the extent or degree of racism. in singapore, i agree that there is racism but it is rather discreet. plp dun go onto streets or make banners to publicly critcize on another race. to me, this is good enough.
think about this, even mother and son quarrel over things sometimes, why not plp of different race? -
Actually racism is not a norm and by accepting it, we are resigning ourselves to it by electing to think we can't do anything abt it. I do know of countries where people don't ask rightaway, what race is he/she. They do merge in and celebrate festivals together. They go out together. Just look at our school kids and even adults at lunch- it's crsytal clear that the segregation si there.Originally posted by dibilo:its every where. racism is a norm when there are 2 or more race living together. the only difference is the extent or degree of racism. in singapore, i agree that there is racism but it is rather discreet. plp dun go onto streets or make banners to publicly critcize on another race. to me, this is good enough.
think about this, even mother and son quarrel over things sometimes, why not plp of different race? -
yes.. i've read that article on straits times saying kids preferred to mix with those of the same race, but maybe it's bcoz they find it difficult to communicate in another language other than their mother tongue, or it could be that they are too young to realise that the difference in skin colour doesn't mean anything as long as the other party have a good character. they will eventually grow out of it as they become more mature and as the have the opportunity to mix around.Originally posted by foxwalk:Actually racism is not a norm and by accepting it, we are resigning ourselves to it by electing to think we can't do anything abt it. I do know of countries where people don't ask rightaway, what race is he/she. They do merge in and celebrate festivals together. They go out together. Just look at our school kids and even adults at lunch- it's crsytal clear that the segregation si there.
anyway, what's that country/place that u are referring to? the one without racism? -
Can't help it, especially when shows like Achar came too late , im alright with inter-racial marriages , caramon once said foxwalk is a gal who likes white people , whether is it true , it's non of our business.
But the issue of white man being more superior is crappy.
However im biased against MCA/UMNO only.
Only thinking for thier own racial benefits unlike PAP...
UMNO wants more malay rights..MCA wants more chinese schools..
..hypocrisy..
People who look after their own breed aren't anything better..
Especially with UMNO making it compulsory for foreign eateries owner to have a malay partner with 30% ownership..
They are making their bumis weaker by helping them..
Look at singapore malays, so strong and have a association called
"Association of Muslim Professionals" -
It's a lesser known country.Originally posted by dibilo:yes.. i've read that article on straits times saying kids preferred to mix with those of the same race, but maybe it's bcoz they find it difficult to communicate in another language other than their mother tongue, or it could be that they are too young to realise that the difference in skin colour doesn't mean anything as long as the other party have a good character. they will eventually grow out of it as they become more mature and as the have the opportunity to mix around.
anyway, what's that country/place that u are referring to? the one without racism?
People can speak English nowadays so I don't think that's a problem. Moreover some even have a common language-- Singlish! I know racism is inevitable when we have to share the same planet, but to think that another race is inferior --- that's just too much for me. I'm just disappointed. I've been hearing more racist crap since I started working than I've ever heard my whole life in school. Suddenly school-life seems so pure..
The Singapore pledge means nothing. -
Even China has racism , some people from different cities in Shanghai and Beijing have dislike towards the ones coming from the villages..56 ethnic groups
In India, the northern part of india has the more fairer skinned indians and darker skinned indians as well...it was also once reported..
The Ainu race in japan also experienced some form of it , so its unavoidable -
Do a check on the searchbox , type in "malay"
you will see the massive amount of racism .. -
Achar is a crap show.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:Can't help it, especially when shows like Achar came too late , im alright with inter-racial marriages , caramon once said foxwalk is a gal who likes white people , whether is it true , it's non of our business.
But the issue of white man being more superior is crappy.
However im biased against MCA/UMNO only.
Only thinking for thier own racial benefits unlike PAP...
UMNO wants more malay rights..MCA wants more chinese schools..
..hypocrisy..
People who look after their own breed aren't anything better..
Especially with UMNO making it compulsory for foreign eateries owner to have a malay partner with 30% ownership..
They are making their bumis weaker by helping them..
Look at singapore malays, so strong and have a association called
"Association of Muslim Professionals"
Anyway, the problem with people (esp Chinese, I'm not saying all, but more than desired) is that they'd jump and say you shouldn't be with someone of another race. But to them, it's ok to be with an ang moh. It's not dirtying your genes if you're with ang moh, but otherwise it is.
I don't ebelieve any race or genes is superior; but I do believe that mixing of genes is better.
People can call me an SPG or whatever (which is ironic cuz I've never even dated/liked an ang moh), but the people who know me and mean something to me know what kind of person I am, and that's good enough.
I just feel sad about the state of things in Singapore. -
i was reading the papers where this native american boy went and shot a whole lot of people because he's intent on "racial purity"...
i thought he was just a sad bastard...
silent rage or racial harmony?
it all starts with ourselves.. i've never cared what race, creed, colour, faith or whatever the other person is... but the other guy may..
i've only been pissed off with bigots who insist on racial lines being drawn.. and deride others for not giving a damn about imaginary borders which are in their tiny minds...
who knows?
it could be surpressed rage now.. but who knows? there could be change in the future? we can hope and work towards that hope.. and that is more than the bigots have
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Malay, Indian, anything.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:Do a check on the searchbox , type in "malay"
you will see the massive amount of racism ..
The majority is the most racist. I feel that as the mojority race, we should make the minority feel at home and at ease. We have our Chinese racists in this forum (too many to mention), the Indian ones( so far I only noticed 2- chewbacca and mbbs_mumbhai).
I feel that the pledge is so meaningless. When I was a kid in school, I never liked taking the pledge 'cuz I believe it's crap. I got punished for that. So what. At least I'm less prejudiced and cave-men in thinking than those who took the pledge religiously. -
I'd just wish that people can take this more seriously and the government can do something about it. I just think that ours is a timebomb waitjing to go off.Originally posted by the Bear:i was reading the papers where this native american boy went and shot a whole lot of people because he's intent on "racial purity"...
i thought he was just a sad bastard...
silent rage or racial harmony?
it all starts with ourselves.. i've never cared what race, creed, colour, faith or whatever the other person is... but the other guy may..
i've only been pissed off with bigots who insist on racial lines being drawn.. and deride others for not giving a damn about imaginary borders which are in their tiny minds...
who knows?
it could be surpressed rage now.. but who knows? there could be change in the future? we can hope and work towards that hope.. and that is more than the bigots have -
sadly, the more the authorities do, the more the bigots come out of the woodwork..
i guess a lot of the bigots forgot we're all part of the human race..
and thinking back, when at a younger and more innocent time, i got scolded in school when i put in "Human" as the race.. because i played RPGs, i thought that was the actual thing to put in!
looking at it now in a different light, i think it's really apt...Originally posted by foxwalk:I'd just wish that people can take this more seriously and the government can do something about it. I just think that ours is a timebomb waitjing to go off. -
Racism will exist.. but to a varying degree.. for sg.. tink is pretty low.. but i have to do agree tt segregation is getting more prevalent.. juz walk along a busy street.. u'll see most cliques have only one skin colour.. chinese hangs out with chinese.. malays with malays.. indians with indians.. with the living environment we live in now.. gone were the days of neighbourliness among kampong villagers..
But i have no qualms hanging out with pple of other races.. diff culture n topics to interact in.. kinda fun n intriguing..
But too the degree of having a similar clan like the Ku Klux Clan.. tt's really sad.. -
It's sad.Heck, but I just tell myself that me and my crew are tight.We've known each other for years and we are comfy with each other.To me, as long as you're a nice and honest fella,that's the only thing that matters.So what if I'm fairer or you're darker?Means nothing.
Yes we joke about and kid each other's races for their own unique behavior or famous negative traits, but in the end, we are a crew, a bunch.And Singaporean first.But not many people can look beyond the colour of your skin.
Even within the same racial group, there are times where I have been looked down by some for being a "kentang".But I care not,for that is my heritage.Stand tall. -
Yep yep.. each other's unique traits can be joked at out of friendly fun.. but nv despised at..Originally posted by LazerLordz:It's sad.Heck, but I just tell myself that me and my crew are tight.We've known each other for years and we are comfy with each other.To me, as long as you're a nice and honest fella,that's the only thing that matters.So what if I'm fairer or you're darker?Means nothing.
Yes we joke about and kid each other's races for their own unique behavior or famous negative traits, but in the end, we are a crew, a bunch.And Singaporean first.But not many people can look beyond the colour of your skin.
Even within the same racial group, there are times where I have been looked down by some for being a "kentang".But I care not,for that is my heritage.Stand tall. -
Can we hope to eliminate racism? Maybe. Are we going to get rid of general prejudice and discrimination? I doubt it - the tendency to discriminate is something that is at the core of human existence.
One explanation of this tendency is that humans base their identity on the groups that they belong to, be it race, social class, occupation or some other facet of their existence. The long and short of it is that they need to maintain their self-esteem, and therefore attempt to develop the best possible image of the groups that they belong to. If they can't make their group look good, they make other groups look bad and tell themselves, "Thank God I'm not one of them". Since the 1950's, when Henri Tajfel first put his theory forward, this tendency has been substantiated in a fairly large volume of research.
So what's the bottom line? Those who are prejudiced have little, in anything, good to see about themselves, so they need to reinforce their fragile egos with stereotypes and prejudices. Losers. -
We can hope that racism will be eventually be eliminated from the hearts of men..... but unfortunately, that can never happen.
I've encountered far too many cases of racism in my life to accept that Singapore is a racist-free country.
Back in school, some of my Malay friends would mock me for mixing around with the Chinese - my classmates. They wonder with whom my loyalties lie with.
I was shattered when I was blocked from joining the Navy. My sergeant explained that "I'm supposed to tell you that there are no Muslim cookhouses in naval bases.... but I guess you know the real reason."
I still get odd stares when I date my female Chinese friends.
I got mocked by the Malays- my own race- when I tell them that I liked a Chinese girl. 'WHAT!?!? Your own race is not good enough for you is it?!?!'
I got mocked some Chinese guys when I told them the same thing. 'Wah lau! You're limiting opportunities for us, you know! Can't you just stick to your own race?'
NOTE: I said the previous statement to some of the forummites I met at the sgforums.com BBQ last year, and that was the response I got.
Perhaps one day they will learn. It may never happen, but we can still hope.