To love ... is to obey
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Originally posted by jOhO:ok.. maybe u just stick to prawn peeling as a leisurely activity...
u buwee me!!!!
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ok i give up...
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eh btw.. when u all ROMing? wats OAOSOG?
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hmm well, at least my list consists of what i wan in a lifelong partner... havin been in r/s with guys who are like 2 worlds apart.Originally posted by jOhO:love does things to pple..
anyway.. sometimes, i wonder if it's good to have that list at all..
*thinks* What i want is not too much oso mah...
someone reliable.
someone wiser, or more intellegient (i'm dumb.. i can't have some one dumber than me...)
someone who is rather hardworking when it comes to work. not like me ar... dun like to go to work de -
Go guessOriginally posted by jOhO:eh btw.. when u all ROMing? wats OAOSOG?
anyway, date might change again -
Congrats~!Originally posted by shinta:Go guess
anyway, date might change again
You have successfully hijacked Elindra's thread -
if u can't beat them, joined them. ahhaahOriginally posted by Axelheat755:Congrats~!
You have successfully hijacked Elindra's thread
anyway i've already posted my stuff. in true compliance with sgforum's culture, i now join in the OTs... -
Originally posted by Axelheat755:Congrats~!
You have successfully hijacked Elindra's thread
wo bu shi gu yi de
later i will try~ to revert back
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wat's OT's?Originally posted by jOhO:if u can't beat them, joined them. ahhaah
anyway i've already posted my stuff. in true compliance with sgforum's culture, i now join in the OTs... -
joho, I know we are talking about the delicate flower of love here. Marriage is a contract, the contract arises when there is the meeting of two minds. The contractual parties exchanged promises. It is a contractual transaction in legal terms. Women do make decisions everyday in different capacity. If not in the boardroom as CEO, in other capacity as parenting. Who wears the pants and makes the decision in a marriage reflects on the power structure in the partnership. Similarly, the division of labour in relation to domestic chores reflect a particular soicety's ideas of gender roles. These are sociological perspectives, you don't have to agree or embrace them, however I am entitled to verbalised my view free from romantic notions of love.
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it's the maid's duty to maintain the place....Originally posted by shinta:most think that it's the wives' duty to maintain the place, working or not.
the wife is to call a homemaker not a housekeeper....
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I'm not gg to get a maid.Originally posted by tare:it's the maid's duty to maintain the place....
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Of course, you're absolutely right that you have every right to express your view. But I'd like to bring you back to the thread's title. It says "To love". I do agree that this thread has it's fair share of out of topic responses, but i can't tell if yours was trying to be on, or off topic. if on, we're talking about love here.Originally posted by kym:joho, I know we are talking about the delicate flower of love here. Marriage is a contract, the contract arises when there is the meeting of two minds. The contractual parties exchanged promises. It is a contractual transaction in legal terms. Women do make decisions everyday in different capacity. If not in the boardroom as CEO, in other capacity as parenting. Who wears the pants and makes the decision in a marriage reflects on the power structure in the partnership. Similarly, the division of labour in relation to domestic chores reflect a particular soicety's ideas of gender roles. These are sociological perspectives, you don't have to agree or embrace them, however I am entitled to verbalised my view free from romantic notions of love.
No, i won't embrace or agree with your socialogical perspectives. of course, wat you have described could well be happening in the better parts of marriages in most singaporeans, but to me that's wrong. maybe it's the way u put it. it's all too "structured". have we degraded to an extent where to run a family we have to think in terms of running a company? of course, activities between running a household and a company may be similar, like budgeting, forecasting, planning, but to run it AS IF it were a company (partnership) is abhorable in my opinion. like i said, maybe it's the way your phrased it. just didn't rub me the right way at all.
and i'd be even sadder if someone (perhaps yourself) subscribes to and advocates this.
your last statement refers. ur view above of running, or being, in a marriage is free from romantic notions of love. i ask you, why? i mean for argument's sake of course you could take that stand, but why would we ever want to talk about marriage free from the emotion of love? it doesn't make sense to me.
i guess to some, marriage may not be about love. something that also saddens me. especially coming from a female, who's the more emotional of the sexes. -
Maybe just isn't what we thought it was anymore...
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It really doesn't matter what it (love, marriage, etc) was compared to what it is now, or what other people define it as. Everyone has different approaches.Originally posted by shinta:Maybe just isn't what we thought it was anymore...
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you're free to think watever u want to think of wat it should be like, and share those same views with him. i think that's what's important.Originally posted by shinta:Maybe just isn't what we thought it was anymore...
like kym, i'm sure she'd be happy if she found a man that reflects her views also, and they agree on certain things. doesn't mean that i disapprove or disagree with her views that she won't or can't be happily married wat.
by the same token, just becos i don't agree with her doesn't mean my marriage won't succeed either.
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marriage ar...Originally posted by jOhO:you're free to think watever u want to think of wat it should be like, and share those same views with him. i think that's what's important.
like kym, i'm sure she'd be happy if she found a man that reflects her views also, and they agree on certain things. doesn't mean that i disapprove or disagree with her views that she won't or can't be happily married wat.
by the same token, just becos i don't agree with her doesn't mean my marriage won't succeed either.
would be a continuation bah.. but with more stuff inside lor
- creating a place call home, and maintaining it
- and if we have a place of our own, den it'd be just us 2 cleanin it up. (this can lead to arguments n etc if not talked thru seen it happen at home too often liao between me n my siblings)
- there'd be bills, and savings, and other expenses to be shared.
that's all bah..
that would be the only differences i could think of. and maybe kids? -
honestly, i could do all the above without being married. yeah including the kids.
i dun need to sign a piece of paper with her to have kids. i need to LOVE her to have kids with her.
but let's not bang walls for the sake of proving a point, yes i will at some stage, sign that paper.
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honestly, i could do all the above without being married. yeah including the kids.
i dun need to sign a piece of paper with her to have kids. i need to LOVE her to have kids with her.
but let's not bang walls for the sake of proving a point, yes i will at some stage, sign that paper. -
honestly, i could do all the above without being married. yeah including the kids.
i dun need to sign a piece of paper with her to have kids. i need to LOVE her to have kids with her.
but let's not bang walls for the sake of proving a point, yes i will at some stage, sign that paper. -
that was wat i thot tooOriginally posted by jOhO:honestly, i could do all the above without being married. yeah including the kids.
i dun need to sign a piece of paper with her to have kids. i need to LOVE her to have kids with her.
but let's not bang walls for the sake of proving a point, yes i will at some stage, sign that paper.
but, i dun like to rent places from individuals. i prefer to rent it from the govt
and to do that, i hav no choice but to sign that piece of paper at this age -
well i've thot of that too... i guess just gotta work harder to buy private lor..Originally posted by shinta:that was wat i thot too
but, i dun like to rent places from individuals. i prefer to rent it from the govt
and to do that, i hav no choice but to sign that piece of paper at this age
condos start at 400k... so not too bad...
or.. wait till u're 35. for me, not long to go. ahahhahaha -
Can rent resale HDB flats whatOriginally posted by shinta:that was wat i thot too
but, i dun like to rent places from individuals. i prefer to rent it from the govt
and to do that, i hav no choice but to sign that piece of paper at this age -
private is too exp..Originally posted by jOhO:well i've thot of that too... i guess just gotta work harder to buy private lor..
condos start at 400k... so not too bad...
or.. wait till u're 35. for me, not long to go. ahahhahaha
i bring home less than a k every mth
35, by then very long liao wor.. and if i have kids, very squeezy lei -
see wronglyOriginally posted by The man who was death:Can rent resale HDB flats what