Heart Attack after Running
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There's a show on TV tonight on Ch U which talks about the recent cases where 3 people (in 1 month) have died after exercising.
"Scoop" on CH U at 9.30 or 11.30
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moral of the story is: DUN RUN!!!
*roll aways*
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No running is good..
thats no excuse not to exercise -
well some people who still continue to run even when they are ill are stupid.
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one name: Jim Fixx
'nuff said... -
thats why i make it a point to keep my weight.
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What's the cause of death, or the cause of heart attack?
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for Jim Fixx, the man who started the whole running thing, his arteries were clogged to heck..Originally posted by Wanda:What's the cause of death, or the cause of heart attack?
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I have to work the night shift tonight and will have to miss this show. Hey, k4korny, could you please post details about the show in here after you've watched it? Thanks!Originally posted by k4korny:There's a show on TV tonight on Ch U which talks about the recent cases where 3 people (in 1 month) have died after exercising.
"Scoop" on CH U at 9.30 or 11.30
(right after project superstar)
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there were a spate of deaths involving 8 thais in singapore this year alone. they are classified under sudden unexplained death syndrome aka SUDS. those singaporeans mentioned earlier died of the same cause.Originally posted by Wanda:What's the cause of death, or the cause of heart attack?
it is common in thailand, laos and cambodia. -
I can't help wondering if these folks were down with the flu during their deaths. If you catch a viral flu, you can end up with sudden death if the virus travels to your heart and stops your heart muscles.Originally posted by dragg:there were a spate of deaths involving 8 thais in singapore this year alone. they are classified under sudden unexplained death syndrome aka SUDS. those singaporeans mentioned earlier died of the same cause.
it is common in thailand, laos and cambodia.
That's called 'cadiomyelopathy'. One of my friends died in his mid-20's about two year ago due to that. 
All he had was the 'common flu' so he went to the GP, took his meds and went to sleep... but he never woke up. The autopsy done after his death confirmed the diagnosis.
He was married for barely a year too. His poor wife became a widow. -
i guess it' all conincidence bah , there might be actually more people doing nothing and suddenly heart attack for no reason bah
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2 out of the 3 cases involving SAF personnel returned with no clear cut verdict - cardiorespiratory failure pending further investigations.Originally posted by Rhonda:I can't help wondering if these folks were down with the flu during their deaths. If you catch a viral flu, you can end up with sudden death if the virus travels to your heart and stops your heart muscles. That's called 'cadiomyelopathy'. One of my friends died in his mid-20's about two year ago due to that. All he had was the 'common flu' so he went to the GP, took his meds and went to sleep... but he never woke up. The autopsy done after his death confirmed the diagnosis.
He was married for barely a year too. His poor wife became a widow. -
croco swims, no run
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okie.. here's my report after watching the show.
in the past month there has been 3 mysterious death after running. 1 was a BMT Instructor, 19 years old. Died after a 5km run. 1 was an army regular, 30+, died during a run in Jurong camp. the last one was a PE teacher in a Primary sch, 27, just married. Died after going for a jog with his wife.
All 3 were fit and had not suffering from any illness the time of death. Except for the last one, who had a history of diabetes, but was said to have recovered enough. All the runs were not considered to be strenuous. So that rules out that it was complication over flu or if it was a heat stroke.
According to the doctor, the 2nd one was caused by myocardiac infarction. (rhonda, any idea?) The 1st one was caused by cardiorespiratory arrest.. which basically is a catch-all phrase that means the doc does not know what the heck is wrong.
In 2003-2005, there has been an increase to about 600+ cases of cardiac arrest among young ppl below 45.
Possible Cause
According to the doc interviewed, what he suspects was that a heart fipulation (sp?) occured, i.e. one of the valves were blocked, which causes the heart to vibrate erratically, and stopped. Within 10min, the heart has to be electrically shocked to revive, otherwise, the survival rate is less than 20%.
Precautions
Even though such incidents may sound scary, but the doc do recommend people to exercise regularly. Exercising reduces the risk of a clog artery that will lead to heart attack. But to prevent such things from happening, there are some precautions you can take.
- Increase your exercise routine in gradually. When you do too much in a short period of time, it puts on too much stress to the heart and it is not used to that kind of load.
- He suggested that a small part of these cases (about 20%) is genetic. So, if there are any history of cardiac problem that runs in your family, be careful when you run.
- Also, if you're a smoker, have diabetes, or high blood pressure, stop when you feel any discomfort, and consult a doctor immediately.
- One thing i would like to add is.. remember to warm down after a strenuous exercise! Don't drink cold water immediately, or bend over or lie down after a run. It causes your body to cool down too fast and your heart rate to decrease too rapidly!
okie, end of report. Now for your comments! -
I suppose that's why they always recommend a warm up and cool down exercises, and like what my instructor always say don't push yrself too hard stop when u feel its too much and feel like fainting etc. And especially those whom just started to exercise, start slow and gradually increase. So i guess if all the precautions are taken its shld be okie but sometimes it simply boils down to fate if its yr time to go, its yr time to go.
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And then, there are always folks who tell you that you have to 'push yourself' when you exercise or else, you're just mollycuddling yourself and won't be effective at all.Originally posted by YA.YA:I suppose that's why they always recommend a warm up and cool down exercises, and like what my instructor always say don't push yrself too hard stop when u feel its too much and feel like fainting etc. And especially those whom just started to exercise, start slow and gradually increase. So i guess if all the precautions are taken its shld be okie but sometimes it simply boils down to fate if its yr time to go, its yr time to go. 
Y'know, the folks who go around running and chanting, 'No Pain, No Gain?' I feel like shouting out to them, 'OI!!! No Pain, No Faint!' 
I guess I see too many collapse or stroke-out cases in my work, so I'm quite a wussy when it comes to exercise! 
A little pain of discomfort and I'll stop, because I'm quite paranoid and can't help thinking, 'Oh si! What if I collapse and all that?!' so I'll stop!
Well, at least, a wussy stays alive longer! I don't think I'll ever forgive myself if I exercise like some maniac and end up lying in a hospital bed. It's one of those 'preventable' things, y'know. Always remember, prevention is better than cure! 
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Hey, thanks k4korny! I was looking forward to your summary and you really provided a lot of details. I've added my comments in colour below :
Originally posted by k4korny:
okie.. here's my report after watching the show.
in the past month there has been 3 mysterious death after running. 1 was a BMT Instructor, 19 years old. Died after a 5km run. 1 was an army regular, 30+, died during a run in Jurong camp. the last one was a PE teacher in a Primary sch, 27, just married. Died after going for a jog with his wife.
All 3 were fit and had not suffering from any illness the time of death. Except for the last one, who had a history of diabetes, but was said to have recovered enough. All the runs were not considered to be strenuous. So that rules out that it was complication over flu or if it was a heat stroke.
According to the doctor, the 2nd one was caused by myocardiac infarction. (rhonda, any idea?) The 1st one was caused by cardiorespiratory arrest.. which basically is a catch-all phrase that means the doc does not know what the heck is wrong.
A 'Myocardiac Infarction' is what's known commonly as a 'heart attack'. For one of various reasons, the heart muscles stopped getting oxygenated blood and the muscles stopped functioning and thus, the heart stopped beating. Sometimes, there are existing blockages in our arteries that we aren't aware of and exercise could have dislodged them or bits of them and they could have travelled up the bloodstream where they became lodged in a narrower artery and caused obstruction. If it's a bad obstruction, the bloodflow to the heart muscles stop and it triggers an MI.
In 2003-2005, there has been an increase to about 600+ cases of cardiac arrest among young ppl below 45.
[b]Possible Cause
According to the doc interviewed, what he suspects was that a heart fipulation (sp?) occured, i.e. one of the valves were blocked, which causes the heart to vibrate erratically, and stopped. Within 10min, the heart has to be electrically shocked to revive, otherwise, the survival rate is less than 20%.
It's a 'Heart Fibrillation'. Imagine you trying to start your engine whilst it makes that choking noise... that's kinda an equivalent to a 'heart fibrillation'. Over in the US, malls and oher public buildings and places have begun to acquire portable defibrillators which can be accessed quickly in times of emergency to save lives. In fact, they are incorporating the use of the portable defibrillators in a few of their basic First Aid courses too. We should start doing that here too, and hopefully, soon. BTW, a defibrillator is that machine with the two paddles you place on the patient's chest and the doc goes 'Stand Clear!' before he presses the button and the fella suddenly jolts up as an electric current passes through his chest.
Precautions
Even though such incidents may sound scary, but the doc do recommend people to exercise regularly. Exercising reduces the risk of a clog artery that will lead to heart attack. But to prevent such things from happening, there are some precautions you can take.
- Increase your exercise routine in gradually. When you do too much in a short period of time, it puts on too much stress to the heart and it is not used to that kind of load.
- He suggested that a small part of these cases (about 20%) is genetic. So, if there are any history of cardiac problem that runs in your family, be careful when you run.
- Also, if you're a smoker, have diabetes, or high blood pressure, stop when you feel any discomfort, and consult a doctor immediately.
- One thing i would like to add is.. remember to warm down after a strenuous exercise! Don't drink cold water immediately, or bend over or lie down after a run. It causes your body to cool down too fast and your heart rate to decrease too rapidly!
okie, end of report. Now for your comments! [/b] -
I guess it is a random case. If you gonna die, u die, lying down facing up or down.
Running or rather exercise help to reduce the chances of get attack/seize by those "unhealthy" sickness, but does not make u "superman" & immune to it.
Taking properly precaution will only reduce the % of health hazards, but when your time is up, you just have to go. -
Since when do we live forever.
I don't think we should run till we die, but if we don't run at all, it would be kinda sad and life, which was never ment to be forever anyway, would be for the lesser. Trying obessively to extend life will not really mean you will live better, better to live as if you're dying. -
Those who dun exercise/ run will look at this thread and say, "Running will cause heart attack ah!".. and take it as an excuse to justify their 'nuah'-ness.
while for those who like exercising, they will read this in the same way as: how to protect themselves from injuries or how to choose a good shoe. It's not to ask ppl not to run, but it is to remind runners of some of the precautions to take.
As the cliche goes, it depends if you see that the glass of water is half full or half empty, rite? -
I take this as, 'exercise, but once you feel discomfort that's 'not right', STOP! And if it persists or worsens, seek medical attention IMMEDIATELY!'.
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i believe everything is fated.
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i get pains everywhere thats why i stop 5 min into my jogs..Originally posted by Rhonda:I take this as, 'exercise, but once you feel discomfort that's 'not right', STOP! And if it persists or worsens, seek medical attention IMMEDIATELY!'.
n decided other forms of exercises suits me better -
like active sleeping?Originally posted by shinta:i get pains everywhere thats why i stop 5 min into my jogs..
n decided other forms of exercises suits me better