Tsunami, Hurricane Katrina.
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Awhile back, I dunno if anyone remembers this, someone came here saying that the Tsunami was a sign that God wanted to punish the non-christians? Remember how many of us came out saying that was way too insensitive and a whole load of bull crap? While my heart goes out to the people of Louisiana and New Orleans, I have to use this opportunity to point out that someone could use this in the same way in saying Allah is punishing the non-muslims. I am sure most people can see the stupidity and meaness of spirit in making statements like this, and that using religion to gloat over others' suffering just because they aren't the same religion as u is plain stupid.
On another note, notice that 2/3 of the Louisiana National Guard is in Iraq and the short form of New Orleans is NO...
a xtian friend was saying to me that he wonders if this isn't God's way of telling Bush that God is saying the whole American affair in Iraq is a big NO NO. just an interesting thought, not my personal opinion tho. -
And u can fold the us dollar bill to make it look like the twin towers burning
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well, we are mortal...
He is divine..
let it be.. prayers for the people affected.. -
This thread here just brings up the google ads about bible's truth
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Anyways, who knows. But I am saying its equally stupid to use a natural disaster to gloat over others just because they don't share the same beliefs as one does. Wonder if that moron who started the one about the Tsunami will see this.
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The worst case scenerio that America has faced
But they can't settle, terrorist can, but nature cannot -
U should have posted this in EH, but then again, i see that with the appointment of a new mod, they wish to cover any topic that flame, and i am very specific on this, only some christians who preaches and push gospels down people throats....
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Once again the recent hurricane nature has shown us that despite most of us choose to turn a blind eye to the fact that deep down inside we humans still are very barbaric in nature
I'm not trying to be insensitive but seriously I remember when CNN broadcasted the ethnic violence and beheadings in indonesia some years ago, I overheard that many americans probably frowned on asians and at the same time patted themselves on their backs reaffirming that asians will always be backward and "we americans" will never become like them. Look at the americans now, their nation is supposed to be the most civilised and cultured in the world, all those years of culturing, educating the peoples down the sewers overnight.
This goes to show that even with all the laws and civility, technology and education all around us it does not make any difference...we humans are uncivilised tribal barbarians, given the time and opportunity we will demonstrate it. -
I don't intend this as a religious topic, but rather, as a pratical topic to discuss how retarded it is for some petty people to use their religion to gloat over the misfortune of others whom they dislike.Originally posted by laurence82:U should have posted this in EH, but then again, i see that with the appointment of a new mod, they wish to cover any topic that flame, and i am very specific on this, only some christians who preaches and push gospels down people throats....
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I believe if that was the case,den the hurricane should have came to Washington where bush is staying..Nono,balls of fire should drop from the sky and burn bush..
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I heard from people that they believe that some theory stats that God send Katrina to US because US was a strong advocater of the Jewish pullout from the Gaza and West Bank, thus giving Israel land to the Palestines. Make sense too.
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Here's an Open Letter that was published in the Houston Chronicle about Hurricane Katrina and the sentiments felt about how Bush and his administration reacted to the crisis:
Sept. 4, 2005, 11:59PM
COMMENTARY
An open letter to the President
We heard you loud and clear Friday when you visited our devastated city and the Gulf Coast and said, "What is not working, we're going to make it right."
Please forgive us if we wait to see proof of your promise before believing you.
But we have good reason for our skepticism.
Bienville built New Orleans where he built it for one main reason: It's accessible.
The city between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain was easy to reach in 1718.
How much easier it is to access in 2005 now that there are interstates and bridges, airports and helipads, cruise ships, barges, buses and diesel-powered trucks.
Despite the city's multiple points of entry, our nation's bureaucrats spent days after last week's hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city's stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies.
Meanwhile there were journalists, including some who work for The Times-Picayune, going in and out of the city via the Crescent City Connection.
On Thursday morning, that crew saw a caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers headed into town to bring food, water and supplies to a dying city.
Television reporters were doing live reports from downtown New Orleans streets.
Harry Connick Jr. brought in some aid Thursday.
Yet, the people trained to protect our nation, the people whose job it is to quickly bring in aid were absent.
Those who should have been deploying troops were singing a sad song about how our city was impossible to reach.
We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry.
Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not.
That's to the government's shame.
We, who are from New Orleans, are no less American than those who live on the Great Plains or along the Atlantic Seaboard.
We're no less important than those from the Pacific Northwest or Appalachia.
Our people deserved to be rescued.
No expense should have been spared.
No excuses should have been voiced. Especially not one as preposterous as the claim that New Orleans couldn't be reached.
Mr. President, we sincerely hope you fulfill your promise to make our beloved communities work right once again.
When you do, we will be the first to applaud.
The Times-Picayune, based in New Orleans, never stopped publishing during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The company fled its downtown office Tuesday and printed online editions of the paper until Friday when it resumed printing. The 16-page Friday paper was finished at the printing facilities of The Houma Courier, about 60 miles from New Orleans.
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Bush visit halts food delivery
By Michelle Krupa
Staff writer
Saturday, September 03, 2005
Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President BushÂ’s visit to New Orleans, officials said.
The provisions, secured by U.S. Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-Napoleonville, and state Agriculture Commissioner Bob Odom, baked in the afternoon sun as Bush surveyed damage across southeast Louisiana five days after Katrina made landfall as a Category 4 storm, said MelanconÂ’s chief of staff, Casey OÂ’Shea.
“We had arrangements to airlift food by helicopter to these folks, and now the food is sitting in trucks because they won’t let helicopters fly,” O’Shea said Friday afternoon.
The food was expected to be in the hands of storm survivors after the president left the devastated region Friday night, he said.
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whoever came up with such theories are pretty lameOriginally posted by Deportivo:I heard from people that they believe that some theory stats that God send Katrina to US because US was a strong advocater of the Jewish pullout from the Gaza and West Bank, thus giving Israel land to the Palestines. Make sense too.
no matter wad, tsunami or hurricane, there are people suffering out there
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coincidence?
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people believe what they want to believe..
and some use what people want to believe to further their own goals..Originally posted by coffeeortea:coincidence? -
Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?
* Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.
* The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.
* The Red Cross has been meeting the needs of thousands of New Orleans residents in some 90 shelters throughout the state of Louisiana and elsewhere since before landfall. All told, the Red Cross is today operating 149 shelters for almost 93,000 residents.
* The Red Cross shares the nationÂ’s anguish over the worsening situation inside the city. We will continue to work under the direction of the military, state and local authorities and to focus all our efforts on our lifesaving mission of feeding and sheltering.
* The Red Cross does not conduct search and rescue operations. We are an organization of civilian volunteers and cannot get relief aid into any location until the local authorities say it is safe and provide us with security and access.
* The original plan was to evacuate all the residents of New Orleans to safe places outside the city. With the hurricane bearing down, the city government decided to open a shelter of last resort in the Superdome downtown. We applaud this decision and believe it saved a significant number of lives.
* As the remaining people are evacuated from New Orleans, the most appropriate role for the Red Cross is to provide a safe place for people to stay and to see that their emergency needs are met. We are fully staffed and equipped to handle these individuals once they are evacuated.
(source: The Red Cross)
HUH?
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I think its best to evacuate them
Saw on CNN the dangers of remaining in the city come from the water borne diseases..
dead bodies floating, gas pipe and sewage system all burst
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indeed.. i think its cool to link stuff up.. just to see how coincidental things can becomeOriginally posted by the Bear:people believe what they want to believe..
and some use what people want to believe to further their own goals.. -
i think the event people link up the most is the 911 attackOriginally posted by coffeeortea:indeed.. i think its cool to link stuff up.. just to see how coincidental things can become -
It's really amazing to see the richest, most powerful nation in the world, not being able to get its own house in order in a time of crisis. Like the Chinese saying goes: feng1 shui3 lun3 liu2 juan4 (fortunes go around in cycles).
The fact that these places are located where they are, being low-lying and near the sea, means they will always be vulnerable to the forces of nature. It's only a matter of time before damage occurs. This is logic, or physical geography, nothing to do with religion. The same thing applies to the locations affected by the tsunami - Maldives, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, etc. -
how come u talk about this in club 30??Originally posted by HENG@:Awhile back, I dunno if anyone remembers this, someone came here saying that the Tsunami was a sign that God wanted to punish the non-christians? Remember how many of us came out saying that was way too insensitive and a whole load of bull crap? While my heart goes out to the people of Louisiana and New Orleans, I have to use this opportunity to point out that someone could use this in the same way in saying Allah is punishing the non-muslims. I am sure most people can see the stupidity and meaness of spirit in making statements like this, and that using religion to gloat over others' suffering just because they aren't the same religion as u is plain stupid.
On another note, notice that 2/3 of the Louisiana National Guard is in Iraq and the short form of New Orleans is NO...
a xtian friend was saying to me that he wonders if this isn't God's way of telling Bush that God is saying the whole American affair in Iraq is a big NO NO. just an interesting thought, not my personal opinion tho.
if u talking about religion, go to a religious forum, not here
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Read sumwhere tt the money of New Orleans was taken out bit-by-bit to fund the Attack on Iraq... The money was suppose to be used for the country's(referring here to NO) waterworks...
Even the case of Iraq owning WOMD was a hoax... -
Pray for them.
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eh... taiwan and japan every year also have typhoon, how u explain that??