Club 30's 'Kill the Boredom Demon' Jive Pad (Third Edition)
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i keep on thinkin... at what age will i use such words..Originally posted by Rhonda:
Cripers!!!
Now, rats, I might be scared of them up close and esp if they were to try to crawl up my leg, but you could just sleep under the covers and try to shut them out or something. Will end up shivering with fear the whole night but will survive.
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Erm... are these words age-specific?Originally posted by alexkusu:i keep on thinkin... at what age will i use such words.. 
If you're interested, I think I first heard the word from some teenager's mouth in some B-grade horror movie.
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Wanda, are you here?
Are you still proceeding with Nursing school? -
Allo Rhonda! Yep...I think I am working towards nursing school and the foreseen labouring after graduation, inherent sleep problems, etc.....bearing unforeseen development.Originally posted by Rhonda:Wanda, are you here?
Are you still proceeding with Nursing school?
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Nah, it's a calling. Besides, we can do with more nurses.Originally posted by Wanda:Allo Rhonda! Yep...I think I am working towards nursing school and the foreseen labouring after graduation, inherent sleep problems, etc.....bearing unforeseen development.
Wanna tell me I'm crazy and change my mind? 
The local working conditions may be pretty lousy, but it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, Nursing IS an extremely meaningful job. It is a vocation where you DO help save lives.
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You're right. I guess the things going for me are my ability to tahan dirty stuff (eg. have clean cats & dogs poo b4....i mean >60 cats kind), tendency to feel for the 'underdogs' type among society, and I keep hearing about tremendous job satisfaction among those who made the switch.Originally posted by Rhonda:Nah, it's a calling. Besides, we can do with more nurses.
The local working conditions may be pretty lousy, but it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, Nursing IS an extremely meaningful job. It is a vocation where you DO help save lives.
How do you feel about the level of job satisfaction among nurses, in general?
And since nurses are so much needed, how come no one is trying to improve the local working conditions? -
if improve, other public sectors also want improveOriginally posted by Wanda:You're right. I guess the things going for me are my ability to tahan dirty stuff (eg. have clean cats & dogs poo b4....i mean >60 cats kind), tendency to feel for the 'underdogs' type among society, and I keep hearing about tremendous job satisfaction among those who made the switch.
How do you feel about the level of job satisfaction among nurses, in general?
And since nurses are so much needed, how come no one is trying to improve the local working conditions? -
I used to feel for the 'underdogs', until the very 'underdogs' I cared for, turned around and bit me, and became unruly and unreasonable and just plain, downright ugly dogs.Originally posted by Wanda:You're right. I guess the things going for me are my ability to tahan dirty stuff (eg. have clean cats & dogs poo b4....i mean >60 cats kind), tendency to feel for the 'underdogs' type among society, and I keep hearing about tremendous job satisfaction among those who made the switch.
How do you feel about the level of job satisfaction among nurses, in general?
And since nurses are so much needed, how come no one is trying to improve the local working conditions? You'll soon see what I mean, firsthand.
Job Satisfaction has to come from within. External conditions aren't going to help much. In my previous ward, the morale was extremely low - high turnover rates were rampant, amongst those of us who stayed, we were grouchy and grumpy and jaded, and we were all constantly picked-upon by the nit-picking nursing officers, who didn't help us much but rather, added on to our burdens and stress. There was an atmosphere of distrust and, dare I say it, dictatorship. And whilst we derived satisfaction from helping our patients recover, or helping the relatives cope with impending death, we weren't happy with the working conditions at all.
Things are better in my new ward. We have a better system of management, and our Snr Nurse Mgr is a patient, caring and flexible lady who really cares for her staff, so the atmosphere is much breezier, everyone's happy at work, and even when we're busy, we all roll up our sleeves, help each other out, and there's generally a good working comaraderie. Of course, there's still the politics and occasional back-biting and all that, but it's much much better, compared to my previous ward.
So, when it comes to our job satisfaction, I'll say it's really dependant on the nursing management in the ward you're assigned to, and your colleagues.
Like you, the second question you asked continue to faze me. I've even brought it up to a Nursing Director, "Isn't the Dept of Nursing Admin alarmed by the increasingly high turnover rate every year?" and you know what? She arrogantly dismissed me by boasting, "If the nurses want to leave, go ahead! We can always get more nurses!" I was . The stupidity of it all! How much time, money, and resources are spent every year training nurses?! And then, after their bond period, they leave, and nobody's interested in doing anything to stem the outflow?! Man, that defies wisdom! It's a violation of every single common-sense HR guideline and what-not I know of!
But year after year, the same thing happens. The situation's actually getting worse, but the public's none the wiser. The statistics look 'ok', but we're on the ground level, we know.
Why do you think the nursing school needs to recruit up to 1,000 nurses for each year's intake? -
And, what's wrong with improving working conditions in the public sectors with less-than-desirable working conditions?Originally posted by The man who was death:if improve, other public sectors also want improve -
Hmm...thanks for sharing. Guess it depends on one's luck in the kind of ward assigned and mgt style. At least there is a chance for lateral transfers.Originally posted by Rhonda:.....
So, when it comes to our job satisfaction, I'll say it's really dependant on the nursing management in the ward you're assigned to, and your colleagues.
Like you, the second question you asked continue to faze me. I've even brought it up to a Nursing Director, "Isn't the Dept of Nursing Admin alarmed by the increasingly high turnover rate every year?" and you know what? She arrogantly dismissed me by boasting, "If the nurses want to leave, go ahead! We can always get more nurses!" I was . The stupidity of it all! How much time, money, and resources are spent every year training nurses?! And then, after their bond period, they leave, and nobody's interested in doing anything to stem the outflow?! Man, that defies wisdom! It's a violation of every single common-sense HR guideline and what-not I know of!
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Maybe I shd post the 2nd question to someone in MOH (I've been talking to some senior officer there as part of my research. ). Perhaps it's due to the ease and reliance on foreign nurses, and it seems like those sr nurses in charge may need to undergo more macro training in managing HR.
It's rather ironic...i mean, if the sr nurses in charge can be nice and kind to patients (that's why they can be promoted, right?), why can't they be nice and kind to their fellow nurses on whom they rely for the success of the team? -
taxpayers not happyOriginally posted by Rhonda:And, what's wrong with improving working conditions in the public sectors with less-than-desirable working conditions? -
Excuse me, I am a taxpayer, are you?Originally posted by The man who was death:taxpayers not happy -
my parents areOriginally posted by Rhonda:Excuse me, I am a taxpayer, are you? -
That was precisely what I thought!Originally posted by Wanda:It's rather ironic...i mean, if the sr nurses in charge can be nice and kind to patients (that's why they can be promoted, right?), why can't they be nice and kind to their fellow nurses on whom they rely for the success of the team?
I see them being so kind to the patients, and then, when we're out of the room, they turn around and attack us like vicious wolves! I remember in the beginning, I was shocked, "WHOA!!!"
The best way I can describe this entire ironic situation would be that for some, kindness is selective?
Reminds me of the folks who would donate to charities and make a big hoo-ha out of it, and then treat their maids or subordinates badly.
These folks have forgotten that 'Charity Begins at Home'. -
Well, then they had better sit up and listen, and listen good. THis is not just a problem limited to the people in the workforce. Unhappiness would mean a higher turnover rate, which means those who remain will be overworked and unhappy, and the entire system will suffer.Originally posted by The man who was death:my parents are
In things like that, you cannot afford to take a micro view and be contented. You have to take a helicopter view, adopt a wider vision, and see the macro side, be able to predict what the long-term consequences are, etc.
Ultimately, if the condition persists, the end-users, ie. you and your parents included, will suffer. -
Lunch Time!!!
/me hangs up "The Missy is out for lunch, will BRB!" sign!
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Kekekee.....Originally posted by Rhonda:That was precisely what I thought!
I see them being so kind to the patients, and then, when we're out of the room, they turn around and attack us like vicious wolves! I remember in the beginning, I was shocked, "WHOA!!!"
The best way I can describe this entire ironic situation would be that for some, kindness is selective?
I'm rendered speechless! Thought kindness is an innate quality. 
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eat what for lunch??? i eat chai peng
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I also need to go out for lunch...and be back for 2pm boring mtg...
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no.. it isn't...
i've learnt that in senior management, the usual factor that got them there is the ability to stab, the ability to carry, the ability to obfuscate...
actual work and looking out for the staff may turn out to be detrimental to promotional prospects...
for these people, an innate quality is duplicity, stupidity, selfishness and vindictiveness...
uhh.. scary huh?Originally posted by Wanda:Kekekee.....
I'm rendered speechless! Thought kindness is an innate quality. -
You are soooo right, Bear!Originally posted by the Bear:no.. it isn't...
i've learnt that in senior management, the usual factor that got them there is the ability to stab, the ability to carry, the ability to obfuscate...
actual work and looking out for the staff may turn out to be detrimental to promotional prospects...
for these people, an innate quality is duplicity, stupidity, selfishness and vindictiveness...
uhh.. scary huh?
And, Wanda, what I feel really spooked about is, these seniors can go in and gently tell some sick patient, "Ah pek, sorry ah, the tube is going to be a bit uncomfortable but bear with it. When you're better, we'll get it out for you, ok?" and then turn around and yell at the juniors, "Hey! Why so stupid?! First time you work here meh? Go and empty the urine bag NOW!!" That double-faced act never fails to make me snicker inside! 
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rainy rainy rainy rainy...
and my brains hurt -
Actually, Wanda, due to the nature of our job, a lot of time, the seniors are on hard to the juniors and newbies because they are held responsible for their mistakes. This means that they have sudden, extra workload and new staff are pretty hard to train because everyone's stretched to the max and this is just an extra burden few would relish.
It doesn't help that a lot of newly-graduated nurses seem to be really blur about stuff that they should know by then. Maybe, as student nurses on hospital attachments back then, they should've taken their attachments a tad more seriously. I used to rebuke the students when they fail to know what they ought to know by their level because they should take their learning and training seriously.
You'll find that when you're up to the expectations and up to standard in your work, the seniors will start to leave you alone. I ended up 'softening' most of the seniors who came down hard on me and my colleagues - they can be charmed over one! -
Eh... how many brains do you have, Bear?Originally posted by the Bear:rainy rainy rainy rainy...
and my brains hurt -
OK, what was for lunch?
I had duck noodles that was only 'passable'.