This Is Unbelievable!!!
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extracted from straits times forum.
Apathetic commuters put driver in a spot
I AM deeply saddened and perturbed by Singaporeans' sense of apathy and lack of ethics.
At 7.55am last Thursday, I boarded bus No. 22 at the bus stop beside Ang Mo Kio MRT station. When the bus was travelling along Serangoon Road, I heard a commotion between a woman who claimed she had been molested and a male commuter who adamantly denied any misconduct.
As the exchange grew more heated, the bus driver stopped the bus in an attempt to placate both parties who were standing at the front of the bus.
After a few minutes, this drew protests from two male commuters who insisted that the driver continue on the journey to get them to work on time.
One of them spewed vulgarities in Hokkien while the other remarked that it was a trivial matter and suggested wryly that the woman should travel in a cab to avoid such incidents.
Faced with mounting pressure and a busload of commuters, the driver drove on. I do not know if the driver intervened again and resolved the matter as I alighted soon after.
I was taken aback by how some commuters can remain indifferent when thrust into situations that call for assistance and, to aggravate matters, put their own interests before others'.
If the woman in question were a family member of the two commuters who protested, would they still respond in a similar manner?
Bus companies should educate their drivers on how to handle such delicate situations appropriately and effectively, if they have not already been trained to do so.
On a positive note, I would like to commend the woman who stood her ground and spoke out against the man, as well as the bus driver who stepped in to mediate the dispute.
Tania HengLi Yen (Ms) -
Maybe should have Male and Female buses/cabins -
Females should be given a higher transport allowance, so they can avoid taking the bus to work.
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Originally posted by mistyblue:Maybe should have Male and Female buses/cabins
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note that the author automatically assumed the guy was guilty.... no need prove one???Originally posted by dragg:extracted from straits times forum.
Apathetic commuters put driver in a spot
I AM deeply saddened and perturbed by Singaporeans' sense of apathy and lack of ethics.
At 7.55am last Thursday, I boarded bus No. 22 at the bus stop beside Ang Mo Kio MRT station. When the bus was travelling along Serangoon Road, I heard a commotion between a woman who claimed she had been molested and a male commuter who adamantly denied any misconduct.
As the exchange grew more heated, the bus driver stopped the bus in an attempt to placate both parties who were standing at the front of the bus.
After a few minutes, this drew protests from two male commuters who insisted that the driver continue on the journey to get them to work on time.
One of them spewed vulgarities in Hokkien while the other remarked that it was a trivial matter and suggested wryly that the woman should travel in a cab to avoid such incidents.
Faced with mounting pressure and a busload of commuters, the driver drove on. I do not know if the driver intervened again and resolved the matter as I alighted soon after.
I was taken aback by how some commuters can remain indifferent when thrust into situations that call for assistance and, to aggravate matters, put their own interests before others'.
If the woman in question were a family member of the two commuters who protested, would they still respond in a similar manner?
Bus companies should educate their drivers on how to handle such delicate situations appropriately and effectively, if they have not already been trained to do so.
On a positive note, I would like to commend the woman who stood her ground and spoke out against the man, as well as the bus driver who stepped in to mediate the dispute.
Tania HengLi Yen (Ms)
anyway i think yeah the bus driver should drive on dun waste other pple time. time is very precious. if the argument cannot be solved then all the bus passengers get stuck there 10 hours and waste all that time? what if some of them are in a hurry, for exams or work( could result in job loss despite "valid" reason)
why should the bus driver be the one intervening no other pple around? -
i strongly believely if they wan to dispute, both of them get down the bus and dispute until they are satisifed
dont waste other ppls time, on the other hand, if the lady wans to accuse the man, she will have to look for eye witnesses, if not , too bad for her i guess -
first point noted .... i'm a guy too .... and i'd say this sort of accusation is not something a man can shake off easily .... even if he's innocent ...Originally posted by hisoka:note that the author automatically assumed the guy was guilty.... no need prove one???
anyway i think yeah the bus driver should drive on dun waste other pple time. time is very precious. if the argument cannot be solved then all the bus passengers get stuck there 10 hours and waste all that time? what if some of them are in a hurry, for exams or work( could result in job loss despite "valid" reason)
why should the bus driver be the one intervening no other pple around?
but i think the main issue is the apathy of the other passengers ....
we may be "gullible" and kind hearted when it come to say, giving to charities, but why are we so cold and selfish in our daily interactions with society ? ....
are we afraid to get into "trouble " ... or is it a case of "doesn't involve me, so none of my business" ? .....
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Because no one else intervened, and his conscience pricked him.Originally posted by hisoka:why should the bus driver be the one intervening no other pple around? -
I was taken aback by how some commuters can remain indifferent when thrust into situations that call for assistance and, to aggravate matters, put their own interests before others'.
speaking about herself? -
the bus driver should have try to use nervousness to stop by steering widly and braking very hardOriginally posted by dragg:extracted from straits times forum.
Apathetic commuters put driver in a spot
I AM deeply saddened and perturbed by Singaporeans' sense of apathy and lack of ethics.
At 7.55am last Thursday, I boarded bus No. 22 at the bus stop beside Ang Mo Kio MRT station. When the bus was travelling along Serangoon Road, I heard a commotion between a woman who claimed she had been molested and a male commuter who adamantly denied any misconduct.
As the exchange grew more heated, the bus driver stopped the bus in an attempt to placate both parties who were standing at the front of the bus.
After a few minutes, this drew protests from two male commuters who insisted that the driver continue on the journey to get them to work on time.
One of them spewed vulgarities in Hokkien while the other remarked that it was a trivial matter and suggested wryly that the woman should travel in a cab to avoid such incidents.
Faced with mounting pressure and a busload of commuters, the driver drove on. I do not know if the driver intervened again and resolved the matter as I alighted soon after.
I was taken aback by how some commuters can remain indifferent when thrust into situations that call for assistance and, to aggravate matters, put their own interests before others'.
If the woman in question were a family member of the two commuters who protested, would they still respond in a similar manner?
Bus companies should educate their drivers on how to handle such delicate situations appropriately and effectively, if they have not already been trained to do so.
On a positive note, I would like to commend the woman who stood her ground and spoke out against the man, as well as the bus driver who stepped in to mediate the dispute.
Tania HengLi Yen (Ms)
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today saw this old malay guy and his wife. He walked off the bus empty handed and left his wife struggling with bag and bags of things. She almost didn't get off as the bus was going to drive off and close the door on her. Luckily, the driver spotted her and let her off. The man only stand at bus stop like wooden block to wait for the old woman to get off and walk to him. -
Since when did 22 ply Serangoon Rd? ANyway, this should be in Unusual happenings on bus thread.
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it did not happen in the bus.Originally posted by iveco:Since when did 22 ply Serangoon Rd? ANyway, this should be in Unusual happenings on bus thread. -
is tis the self-proclaimes SBS bus expert i noe of?Originally posted by iveco:Since when did 22 ply Serangoon Rd? ANyway, this should be in Unusual happenings on bus thread. -
Yep, like Japan's train system which has a cabin for women only - to prevent molest/sexual harassment. Maybe they can have one for pets as well.Originally posted by mistyblue:Maybe should have Male and Female buses/cabins
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For trains still possible, but not practical for busesOriginally posted by Wanda:Yep, like Japan's train system which has a cabin for women only - to prevent molest/sexual harassment. Maybe they can have one for pets as well. -
well not that this did not lead to some other problems as well.Originally posted by Wanda:Yep, like Japan's train system which has a cabin for women only - to prevent molest/sexual harassment. Maybe they can have one for pets as well.
It was reported that this made the men even more daring on normal cabins.
Their reasoning is that if you did not take the female only cabin,you must be very willing to be molested,so women rushing for time and can't get on the women's cabin became worst off. -
and den we'd have those perverts cross dressing so that they can grope women in the female only cabinOriginally posted by Aveme:well not that this did not lead to some other problems as well.
It was reported that this made the men even more daring on normal cabins.
Their reasoning is that if you did not take the female only cabin,you must be very willing to be molested,so women rushing for time and can't get on the women's cabin became worst off. -
singaporeans la. pervert la. selfish la. wot u expect?
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at least he is forced to do more work.Originally posted by shinta:and den we'd have those perverts cross dressing so that they can grope women in the female only cabin 
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lao gong say until like all crossdressers r perverts lidat.Originally posted by shinta:and den we'd have those perverts cross dressing so that they can grope women in the female only cabin 
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hmmOriginally posted by HENG@:lao gong say until like all crossdressers r perverts lidat.
i should add on... this is not fair to other genuine crossdressers.
like that can? =X
u won't believe how far they'd go just to...
haiz..
later ppl would think all cross dressers are perverts... becos of those perverts who cross dresss to grope women..
not only cross dressers... trannys oso will tio -
yes it is extremely stupid that it is always the man to be judged guilty immediately for this kinda events.And since such stuff are so difficult to prove,it really is not a good idea for everyone to wait until the matter is resolved.
Since the writer of this article is so sure that the man is guilty,does it means she has evidence to prove so?If so why was she so sure and why was she not the one who helped instead of blaming it on the bus driver whose major concern is to drive the bus and keep the passenger safe.If she did not help,she has no reason to complain since she herself just like the other passenger let her own concern of getting to her destination fast and alighted took over her "concern" for this fellow lady passenger.
while the lady who is speaking up for herself on being molested maybe brave but it may just look stupid of her if she did cannot or did not have any prove or eyewitness to help her in her accusation.If so how can you expect other passengers to have empathy and forsake their own precious time for something that cannot be proven to be true -
quite true.
why did she write to the forum instead of helping the victim.
singaporeans mah.
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It might help if teh woman reach behind n twist that man's arms when he molested her...Originally posted by Aveme:yes it is extremely stupid that it is always the man to be judged guilty immediately for this kinda events.And since such stuff are so difficult to prove,it really is not a good idea for everyone to wait until the matter is resolved.
Since the writer of this article is so sure that the man is guilty,does it means she has evidence to prove so?If so why was she so sure and why was she not the one who helped instead of blaming it on the bus driver whose major concern is to drive the bus and keep the passenger safe.If she did not help,she has no reason to complain since she herself just like the other passenger let her own concern of getting to her destination fast and alighted took over her "concern" for this fellow lady passenger.
while the lady who is speaking up for herself on being molested maybe brave but it may just look stupid of her if she did cannot or did not have any prove or eyewitness to help her in her accusation.If so how can you expect other passengers to have empathy and forsake their own precious time for something that cannot be proven to be true