Little Kiki died. She could have done with some help
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by the way whats the number, i dont even know.Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:Emergency Call ambulance!!! They know First AID better than us.
so i am not surprised if the mother concerned dont know too. -
the police can help do that also mah but they dunOriginally posted by shinta:it's always faster for an ambulance.
let's talk about traffic.
ambulance can disregard traffic rules like the red n green man.. they can speed.
simple as that.
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by soundin the horn can the police actually noe what is happening?
the taxi driver might have his reasons for not takin her.
and even if he did call the ambulance for her, is it gg to help?
she might be off somewhere in another cab by the time the ambulance reached.. -
the mother know there's a clinic nearby of cos want to rush her there first lah why wait for ambulance??
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995Originally posted by dragg:by the way whats the number, i dont even know.
so i am not surprised if the mother concerned dont know too.
how come ppl dunno the numbers?
i tot it was pasted everywhere at one time
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we're comparing ambulance n cab.. not clinic n hospitalOriginally posted by The man who was death:the mother know there's a clinic nearby of cos want to rush her there first lah why wait for ambulance?? -
what the taxi driver should have done is drive her to the hospital. on the way he can call control station to tell a traffic police or ambulance to meet him half way.Originally posted by shinta:by soundin the horn can the police actually noe what is happening?
the taxi driver might have his reasons for not takin her.
and even if he did call the ambulance for her, is it gg to help?
she might be off somewhere in another cab by the time the ambulance reached..
the ambulance ostensibly can help the kid or the traffic police can clear the way.
in the first place the police should have helped. he is in a way licensed to speed in an emergency.
anyway i dont think the taxi driver is wrong if he speeds too. -
is he obliged to do that in the first place?Originally posted by dragg:what the taxi driver should have done is drive her to the hospital. on the way he can call control station to tell a traffic police or ambulance to meet him half way.
the ambulance ostensibly can help the kid or the traffic police can clear the way.
in the first place the police should have helped. he is in a way licensed to speed in an emergency.
anyway i dont think the taxi driver is wrong if he speeds too.
how would the police have known whats the matter when all he might have heared was a horn?
thats what u think. is that acceptable in sg law? -
saving a life is everyone's imperative.Originally posted by shinta:is he obliged to do that in the first place?
how would the police have known whats the matter when all he might have heared was a horn?
thats what u think. is that acceptable in sg law?
i dont know if it is acceptable but there is a saying 'falubuwairenqing'. i am sure that the authorities wont take action against him for speeding when he is trying to save someone's life. -
Again, that's what u think. Not everybody thinks the same way.Originally posted by dragg:saving a life is everyone's imperative.
i dont know if it is acceptable but there is a saying 'falubuwairenqing'. i am sure that the authorities wont take action against him for speeding when he is trying to save someone's life.
It's not acceptable. Everyone can say there was an emergency when they speed. And again, like I said earlier, ambulances have the right of way, not taxi drivers. -
u're missing the point. the point now is not whether she should call ambulance or not. she did what she did le. the point here is, WHY did those people who did not help, did not help? what reasons do they have? they better come up with a bloody good answer, fast.Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:Base on the story ....
she should call for ambulance...
for cab take note Woodland to KKH very far the child ...
at aleast there someone to help her before she reach hospital.
May be she is not claim ....
Alway remenber call for ambulance!!! -
you are right. thats why one of the taxi driver refused.Originally posted by shinta:Again, that's what u think. Not everybody thinks the same way.
It's not acceptable. Everyone can say there was an emergency when they speed. And again, like I said earlier, ambulances have the right of way, not taxi drivers. -
den i've been missing the point in teh 2 pages...Originally posted by HENG@:u're missing the point. the point now is not whether she should call ambulance or not. she did what she did le. the point here is, WHY did those people who did not help, did not help? what reasons do they have? they better come up with a bloody good answer, fast. -
The thing is the mother knows there's a clinic nearby so she dun wait for ambulance so calling a ambulance is in the back of her mind how she know the clinic close?? then she see it close panick liao mah dunno how to think liao loh
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i doubt they will even reply.Originally posted by HENG@:u're missing the point. the point now is not whether she should call ambulance or not. she did what she did le. the point here is, WHY did those people who did not help, did not help? what reasons do they have? they better come up with a bloody good answer, fast. -
unfortunately, laog gong, u have been missing the point in the 2 pages le. Ya the lady should have called ambulance, but she didn't so now we have to ask why those people didn't help? Should we not help people in need just because they didn't take the best course of action? Maybe she panicked and didn't do the best thing, but does that mean she doesn't deserve our help then? Do they have the right to reject help just because she panicked at that moment? Can we all stand up and say for sure WE won't panic in a situation like that?Originally posted by shinta:den i've been missing the point in teh 2 pages...
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i can't say what i will do cos i've never met with such a situation before.Originally posted by The man who was death:The thing is the mother knows there's a clinic nearby so she dun wait for ambulance so calling a ambulance is in the back of her mind how she know the clinic close?? then she see it close panick liao mah dunno how to think liao loh
but if the mother can explain to a cabby once, and twice rgardin her dotter's critical condition, i wonder why she can't calm herself down enuff to call an ambulance?
i'll leave it to nellie to talk about the medical attention part...
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yea i did..Originally posted by HENG@:unfortunately, laog gong, u have been missing the point in the 2 pages le. Ya the lady should have called ambulance, but she didn't so now we have to ask why those people didn't help? Should we not help people in need just because they didn't take the best course of action? Maybe she panicked and didn't do the best thing, but does that mean she doesn't deserve our help then? Do they have the right to reject help just because she panicked at that moment? Can we all stand up and say for sure WE won't panic in a situation like that?
Yes u HAVE missed the point for 2 pages, unfortunately.
But whats the point of asking those ppl why they didn help? They're not obliged to in any sense. the law didn make it such that u have to help someone when they're in critical conditions or else u'd have break the law.
If that's the case, how would they have accessed if the situation is indeed critical?
As for the policeman, 1 horn doesn mean anything. the police is not a psychic. he won't be able to noe that someone in a critical condition is in the cab unless they unwind the window n shout to the police.
provided he had the windows down too -
to help is out of generosity
no one should be obligated to help
no one should expect someone would put aside everything just to help
There are always many options but to balme everyone else for one's troubles, crosses the point where the person did not take responsibility for one's actions. Failing that and when paid in full with a life, the person should also wake up. Generally people should also use that as a reminder for themselves to be prepared for emergencies and not always think someone would help. -
ah..Originally posted by mistyblue:to help is out of generosity
no one should be obligated to help
no one should expect someone would put aside everything just to help
There are always many options but to balme everyone else for one's troubles, crosses the point where the person did not take responsibility for one's actions. Failing that and when paid in full with a life, the person should also wake up. Generally people should also use that as a reminder for themselves to be prepared for emergencies and not always think someone would help.
thats what i wanna say -
her daughter's condition is all she care abt mah, she must think the most impt thing is to get her to hospital dun care whether ambulance or taxiOriginally posted by shinta:i can't say what i will do cos i've never met with such a situation before.
but if the mother can explain to a cabby once, and twice rgardin her dotter's critical condition, i wonder why she can't calm herself down enuff to call an ambulance?
i'll leave it to nellie to talk about the medical attention part...
i believe he will post about this when he gets home tonight. -
you dont need a law enacted to make people help those in trouble, especially when it is life threatening. sometimes we have to make decisions with our heart. and generally conscience is what will convinced someone to help under such circumstances. frankly your argument is one of the weirdest i have ever heard.Originally posted by shinta:yea i did..
But whats the point of asking those ppl why they didn help? They're not obliged to in any sense. the law didn make it such that u have to help someone when they're in critical conditions or else u'd have break the law.
If that's the case, how would they have accessed if the situation is indeed critical?
As for the policeman, 1 horn doesn mean anything. the police is not a psychic. he won't be able to noe that someone in a critical condition is in the cab unless they unwind the window n shout to the police.
provided he had the windows down too
and when it comes to breaking the law isnt it stupid to reject helping someone under such circumstances just because you are afraid of the law?
anyway i have read of such a case.
a driver speeding to drive a pregnant to the hospital. a traffic police spotted him but helped clear the road to the hospital. he was not charged in anyway.
i seriously doubt you will be charged for speeding trying to help someone to the hospital. the most you get is a stern warning. -
they are not obliged to. but then thats apathy right? so we're asking them why they din hep loh. besides, i do think the policemen were obliged to help. im sure they actually wound the window down and explain the situation to them in some way. its not literally one horn only.Originally posted by shinta:yea i did..
But whats the point of asking those ppl why they didn help? They're not obliged to in any sense. the law didn make it such that u have to help someone when they're in critical conditions or else u'd have break the law.
If that's the case, how would they have accessed if the situation is indeed critical?
As for the policeman, 1 horn doesn mean anything. the police is not a psychic. he won't be able to noe that someone in a critical condition is in the cab unless they unwind the window n shout to the police.
provided he had the windows down too
and would u ignore someone who is say, alongside or behind u, horning and flashing and waving at u? the very least u'd try to find out whats wrong. what if its not they need help, but they notice something wrong on your car? i dun believe the policemen didn't know what was happening in the taxi. thats ridiculous. -
if got nearby clinic and can give her daughter some meds to help her and buy more time.Originally posted by The man who was death:her daughter's condition is all she care abt mah, she must think the most impt thing is to get her to hospital dun care whether ambulance or taxi
Then its also something to consider since hospital is not like 5 mins away and hospital also got lots of people urgently in need of help.
Say if the lady got to hospital in time but hospital full of emergency patients from a critical road accident. Should the doctors drop all the critical patients and say the lady's daughter? is the girl's life worth more than anyone else? This is a moral question liao.
Then failing to save the girl, would the writer then blame the society for the road accidents and hospital for not having enough doctors and better service to save the girl?
It all really comes down to being prepared. Yes, anyone would panic. But panic aside, one needs to try the best to correct the situation. Panic like a mad woman would not save anyone. And to blame everyone for not helping is just plain irresponsible.
Being prepared is the responsibility of the mother - not the job of every stranger on the road. -
so sad
