Little Kiki died. She could have done with some help

• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 12:51

  Originally posted by browniebaobao:

  even if they couldn't hear him, they could have stopped the car and check out wat's wrong right?
  
  u think ple disiao disiao like to horn at police car meh?

  then maybe must be singaporeans disiao disiao like to horn police car nowadays. or else they busy taking 'complaint's from couples who want to go to a carpark to make out, find some people sitting beside the carpark chatting, and call police to come chase those people away.
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 12:52

  Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:

  best is to call ambulance agree !!! support it !!

  best? i dun think so. not after what i keep reading about in the newspapers.
• browniebaobao

  31 Oct 05, 12:52

  Originally posted by shinta:

  that was a quote from the straits times

  then we write in to straits times lor.
  
  see whether the public will all agree with 'not obliged to help' and let the matter rest.
• MeOwSuSan

  31 Oct 05, 12:52

  http://www.redcross.org.sg/courses.htm
  
  http://opssjab.tripod.com/basicfirstaid/
• sgboy

  31 Oct 05, 12:53

  Prehaps the taxi driver can call 999 or traffic police for help.
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 12:53

  ayah. singapore full of quiters liao la. the people who've quit caring. the govt should go n rethink who exactly the real quitters are.
• shinta

  31 Oct 05, 12:53

  Originally posted by browniebaobao:

  then we write in to straits times lor.
  
  see whether the public will all agree with 'not obliged to help' and let the matter rest.

  will pointing fingers help?
  
  what i see here is who to blame for the death of little kiki....
• browniebaobao

  31 Oct 05, 12:55

  Originally posted by shinta:

  will pointing fingers help?
  
  

  no, but it seems that some pple still refuse to reflect.
  
  mo mo liang xin ba.
• MeOwSuSan

  31 Oct 05, 12:55

  Originally posted by shinta:

  will pointing fingers help?
  
  

  agree
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 12:55

  Originally posted by shinta:

  will pointing fingers help?
  
  

  yes, if it can make even one more person realise the possible consequences of being apathetic. yes it will help.
• shinta

  31 Oct 05, 12:55

  Originally posted by browniebaobao:

  no, but it seems that some pple still refuse to reflect.
  
  mo mo liang xin ba.

  reflect? on what?
  
• MeOwSuSan

  31 Oct 05, 12:57

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  best? i dun think so. not after what i keep reading about in the newspapers.

  you need to give correct inform, and you don't go clinic than call 995.
  
  
• shinta

  31 Oct 05, 12:57

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  yes, if it can make even one more person realise the possible consequences of being apathetic. yes it will help.

  
  
  next time sth went wrong anywhere i'll start pointing fingers n i'll see if it will change my situation anot
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 12:57

  Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:

  agree

  so u're saying that dun need to really care that there are some apathetic people who might just cause YOUR death the next time u're in need of help, help which u are unable to give yourself?
  
  apathy can be damaging to yourself too u know.
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 12:58

  Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:

  you need to give correct inform, and you don't go clinic than call 995.
  
  

  but it seems like give correct information sometimes they still can be late for some reason leh?
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 13:00

  Originally posted by shinta:

  
  
  next time sth went wrong anywhere i'll start pointing fingers n i'll see if it will change my situation anot

  maybe not YOUR situation, but it might help someone else whom we don't know about. maybe someone will think about this and decide to start caring more, and somewhere along the way, he might just save the life of someone else. its not just about u, u know. u're saying u dun want point fingers just because it won't benefit YOU? u won't do it even it there is the off chance that someone somewhere whom we don't know will benefit?
  
  this is what i mean about apathy. not caring. or maybe its really about being selfish. or maybe its not thinking. i mean, must it benefit you b4 u will do something? Thats quite.... apathetic isn't it?
• rainee

  31 Oct 05, 13:00

  Thing is, we dunno who exactly to blame for this situation.
• a_splash

  31 Oct 05, 13:01

  scary to see some replies here..... tsk tsk....scary....
  
  then again...i know i there are many more nicer ppl in real life around....not sure about the newer generation tho.....
  
  too bad the 'stupid' mother din know the rite action to take...she ought to be shot...so just too bad for her lor!
  
  
• browniebaobao

  31 Oct 05, 13:02

  Originally posted by shinta:

  
  
  next time sth went wrong anywhere i'll start pointing fingers n i'll see if it will change my situation anot

  u wun know whether u will start pointing finger until u met with a situation like this where u or ur closest kin received such treatment. A life could have been saved but bcos of some selfish ple, it's taken away.
  
  yes, learn more abt first aid, learn to call 999 or 995. but under real circumstances, if u are not able to calm down and think, u juz want to save the life in the shortest time possible, without anyone who is calm enough to remind u of those number, do u think u will think of those numbers, take out ur hp and call? then have to handle those 'for blah blah blah pls press blah blah blah..' how much time wasted?
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 13:03

  Originally posted by rainee:

  Thing is, we dunno who exactly to blame for this situation.

  we do. not to blame fully, but indirectly partially. its useless saying we dunno who to blame because we do. maybe not a name, but there IS someone who's indirectly and partially to blame. And if pointing out that such apathy can lead to a life lost will make some people think, even just ONE person think, I'm glad to do that. Seriously we don't have names so personally no one is really being villified in public. The point is, we want people to THINK about the possible consequences of apathy. We want to try to change some people.
• shinta

  31 Oct 05, 13:06

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  maybe not YOUR situation, but it might help someone else whom we don't know about. maybe someone will think about this and decide to start caring more, and somewhere along the way, he might just save the life of someone else. its not just about u, u know. u're saying u dun want point fingers just because it won't benefit YOU? u won't do it even it there is the off chance that someone somewhere whom we don't know will benefit?
  
  this is what i mean about apathy. not caring. or maybe its really about being selfish. or maybe its not thinking. i mean, must it benefit you b4 u will do something?

  The thing is, it's been deeply drilled into our heads... if it doesn concern u, dun do anything about it.
  
  we see it all around... i saw mothers teachin their boys n girls that!
  
  either u start with the young ones at a very young age, before they get brainwashed by apthetic adults, or u could try doin all these talks... which i think have very little effect.
• MeOwSuSan

  31 Oct 05, 13:07

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  but it seems like give correct information sometimes they still can be late for some reason leh?

  too what I know it is at noon there no traffic jam ...
  
  and the fire station is near woodland.
  
  if you tell them the child is breathless they will send a moto team in 5 to 10 min time ....
  
  please learn some first aid it help a lot ....
• browniebaobao

  31 Oct 05, 13:07

  Originally posted by shinta:

  The thing is, it's been deeply drilled into our heads... if it doesn concern u, dun do anything about it.
  
  we see it all around... i saw mothers teachin their boys n girls that!
  
  either u start with the young ones at a very young age, before they get brainwashed by apthetic adults, or u could try doin all these talks... which i think have very little effect.

  so are u gg to teach ur kids all that?
  
  shi bu guan ji, so bo chup?
• MeOwSuSan

  31 Oct 05, 13:07

  Originally posted by browniebaobao:

  u wun know whether u will start pointing finger until u met with a situation like this where u or ur closest kin received such treatment. A life could have been saved but bcos of some selfish ple, it's taken away.
  
  yes, learn more abt first aid, learn to call 999 or 995. but under real circumstances, if u are not able to calm down and think, u juz want to save the life in the shortest time possible, without anyone who is calm enough to remind u of those number, do u think u will think of those numbers, take out ur hp and call? then have to handle those 'for blah blah blah pls press blah blah blah..' how much time wasted?

  support BBB ....
  
  me agree ...
• HENG@

  31 Oct 05, 13:09

  Originally posted by shinta:

  The thing is, it's been deeply drilled into our heads... if it doesn concern u, dun do anything about it.
  
  we see it all around... i saw mothers teachin their boys n girls that!
  
  either u start with the young ones at a very young age, before they get brainwashed by apthetic adults, or u could try doin all these talks... which i think have very little effect.

  u dun get it do u?
  
  I dun care if its been drilled into your heads or not. I will do what I can do even if it has little effect. Little effect is still some effect. Thats the difference. I try to change the world for better even if it is little bit by bit. U think, oh this talk no use de, so no point. But thats apathy isn't it? U dun get the point that it is irrelevant whether it is drilled into your heads or not. The point is to do something to change this notion which is drilled into your heads. Surely not everyone have been drilled with the notion equally deeply, so like I said, if I can get even just ONE person to change his thinking, that is already enuf effect for me.
  
  ok fine if u're apathetic because its been drilled into your heads, u dun have to say anything. but what i dun understand is, why u have to come here to speak against other people who want to get people to think?