Rent Boys

• Rhonda

  2 Jan 06, 23:03

  Bear, you speak as if women are to be blamed for all relationship ills.
  
  To be fair, there are good men and good women. Just as there are bad ones from both sides.
  
  The important thing is, are you playing it smart by making sure that you don't get abused by the bad species?
  
  If you're not watchful and fall prey to the charms and subsequent mistreatment of one of the rotten apples, don't turn around and call the whole basket of apples rotten.
  
  It's not cynicism when you choose a rotten apple and bite into it only to realise your bad choice, but then you don't henceforth condemn all the other apples.
  
  However, if all the other apples get condemned just because of that one bad apple, then, that certainly sounds like cynicism setting in!
• Rhonda

  2 Jan 06, 23:05

  Originally posted by Kan_i:

  hmmm i was going to say something else....
  
  but hey you know relationships are just that though...
  no matter what crap is going around with other people.
  You still (when you find someone you klike) form a relationship
  and who is treated bad or is taken for granted is still a matter of
  yourself.
  
  I say love them and if they treat you bad leave them.
  As long as you gave it all, then their is no regrets.
  
  

  Totally agree with what you're saying!
  
  'Tis true... we can only choose who we want to love, and hope they'll reciprocate and treat us well.
  
  If they do, we're so blessed! If they don't, well, we chose them in the first place!
  
  
• the Bear

  2 Jan 06, 23:08

  no.. again, you miscontrue...
  
  there is no fault here...
  
  what is going on is that somehow, "reverse chauvanism" is all right and is to be promoted...
  
  that is wrong..
  
  it's like hating the KKK while condoning and promoting violence by others because they are the opposite side of the KKK...
  
  give credit where it is due... and give vilification where it is due too...
  
  do not go around saying that it's "all right because i'm a woman" while vilifying men while saying "they're just men"...
  
  it's like saying "all men are bastards" and getting "you go! girl!" as a reply.. which is what happens...
  
  and getting away with it.. which is what always happens
  
• Kan_i

  3 Jan 06, 00:51

  Originally posted by the Bear:

  no.. again, you miscontrue...
  
  there is no fault here...
  
  what is going on is that somehow, "reverse chauvanism" is all right and is to be promoted...
  
  that is wrong..
  
  it's like hating the KKK while condoning and promoting violence by others because they are the opposite side of the KKK...
  
  give credit where it is due... and give vilification where it is due too...
  
  do not go around saying that it's "all right because i'm a woman" while vilifying men while saying "they're just men"...
  
  it's like saying "all men are bastards" and getting "you go! girl!" as a reply.. which is what happens...
  
  and getting away with it.. which is what always happens
  

  Hmmm bit extreme.
  But yes we all are like that... we over generalise and have "instilled" views on race and gender. It depends on how you were taught and relationships you saw between your parents and family.
  
  I have had friends who their fathers would never let them do any "house work" as it was a Women's job.
  
  So you can imagine thier view points on women. And yet suckers like us who have had "balanced" parents fall "prey" to good looking chicks with great smiles.
  
  there is a great son which i think summons men now lol
  
  ARTIST: Joe Jackson
  TITLE: Real Men
  Lyrics and Chords
  
  Take your mind back, I don't know when
  Some time when it always seemed to be just us and them
  Girls that wore pink, and boys that wore blue
  Boys that always grew up better men than me and you
  
  / Em - D G / D Em D C / : ( / CD CD / )
  
  What's a man now, what's a man mean
  Is he rough or is he rugged, is he cultural and clean
  Now it's all changed, it's got to change more
  'Cause we think it's getting better but nobody's really sure
  
  {Refrain}
  And so it goes, go round again
  But now and then we wonder who the real men are
  Oh, oh...
  
  / CD CD / CD CD G A B - / - - - - A - - - / / Gm - Bm - CD CD /
  
  See the nice boys, dancing in pairs
  Golden earring, golden tan, blow wave in their hair
  Sure they're all straight, straight as a line
  All the gays are macho, can't you see their leather shine
  
  You don't want to sound dumb, don't want to offend
  So don't call me a faggot, not unless you are a friend
  Then if you're tall and handsome and strong
  You can wear the uniform and I could play along
  
  {Refrain}
  
  Time to get scared, time to change plan
  Don't know how to treat a lady, don't know how to be a man
  Time to admit what you call defeat
  'Cause there's women running past you now and you just drag your feet
  
  Man makes a gun, man goes to war
  Man can kill and man can drink and man can take a whore
  Kill all the blacks, kill all the reds
  And if there's war between the sexes then there'll be no people left