Have you ever considered migration?
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Doing okay thus far. You must be pretty excited about your impending departure--how are preparations for that coming along?Originally posted by Rhonda:MG!!!
Good to see ya! How are you? 
Well, two out of 10 ... and the two had to return because of obligations to fulfill, who knows what they'll do after their bonds are up?!
That's scary... majority of those who plan on migrating are brainy, well-qualified folks.
And yes, the local press would never report on this, just like they skirt a lot of other issues.
I heard staggering figures from my friend, who has connections, but of course, I can't announce it in here in case they kick my door down the very next second!
Reporting the figures for Singaporeans emigrating overseas would probably work against the government's efforts at attaining a 'Swiss standard of living'. After all, nobody is supposed to leave a place that promotes itself as a Utopia-in-the-making, right?
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Originally posted by norey:
My dear norey,
My dear Rhonda, U wrote:
[b]I think most people would like to retire earlier. It's crazy to keep on slogging for so long! And then, what's your whole life about? Preparing for work, and then work, work, work? Bleak, isn't it?
WE know about nurses and their calling to service..Did you pursue it because it was a career or a calling like Florence Nightingale? Or because it was just to hop on to a rice bowl for survive? It's the same everywhere whether in here or Australia..maybe it just to make your day count for yourself..you are not born to live forever here on earth, we all will migrate too..It's 40 per cent for taxes in Ozzie land Lor!
I will like to migrate to this place:
http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Heaven
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If you're trying to be condescending, I won't appreciate it!
But of course I know about the high level of taxes over in Australia. Did you think I'd plan such a big move without considering things on all fronts first?
I never professed to be a Florence Nightingale, and I would never be like her. Whether I pursued nursing as a calling, or because it's an 'iron rice bowl', well, what's that to you anyways? And yes, I am NOT a workaholic, I do not envy workaholics, and I shall never be a workaholic! I want to play as much as I work.
And, nope... it's not 'the same' everywhere. Every place has its unique beauty as well as its own set of problems. I've decided to pursue another brand of beauty and ugliness, so there! -
Rhonda every is not the same as it is so subjective a matter and U wrote :
I never professed to be a Florence Nightingale, and I would never be like her. Whether I pursued nursing as a calling, or because it's an 'iron rice bowl', well, what's that to you anyways? And yes, I am NOT a workaholic, I do not envy workaholics, and I shall never be a workaholic! I want to play as much as I work.
Why workaholics lah I never presume U r.. I rather drink coffee and biscuit and enjoy breaks in between duty LOr too.. Yes we can be people uniquely ..if there another Rhoda dear like you.. I will give my wife and exchange for one..so understanding!hehehehhehehehe -
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Wah, was away the whole morning and this very interesting topic came up!
I must confess, I've been thinking about packing up and moving elsewhere for a simpler life in a less crowded and less stressful environment. As the years go by I find that this place just drives me nuts, mainly the overcrowded conditions.
And really, I think I'd like being a fruitpicker. -
Psssst. Rhonda, did you know that Florence Nightingale had a very high libido? -
Originally posted by av98m:Wah, was away the whole morning and this very interesting topic came up!
I must confess, I've been thinking about packing up and moving elsewhere for a simpler life in a less crowded and less stressful environment. As the years go by I find that this place just drives me nuts, mainly the overcrowded conditions.
And really, I think I'd like being a fruitpicker.
Haha that is what I told SO
You support me and I'll relax and enjoy nature as a fruitpicker
I got a knock on my head for saying that
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If you're willing to give up some luxuries and lead a simple life a fruitpicker's salary might be sufficient!Originally posted by elindra:
Haha that is what I told SO
You support me and I'll relax and enjoy nature as a fruitpicker
I got a knock on my head for saying that -
Originally posted by av98m:If you're willing to give up some luxuries and lead a simple life a fruitpicker's salary might be sufficient!
He says I'll turn stupid if I don't use my brain at work -
Info about Florence Nightingale:
In 1851 she rejected the marriage proposal of politician and poet Richard Monckton Milnes, 1st Baron Houghton, against her mother's wishes. Convinced that marriage would interfere with her ability to follow her calling to nursing, Nightingale continued to reject his proposal.
When in Rome in 1847, recovering from a mental breakdown precipitated by a continuing crisis of her relationship with Milnes, Nightingale met Sidney Herbert, a brilliant politician who had been Secretary at War (1845 – 1846), a position he would hold again (1852 – 1854) during the Crimean War. Herbert was already married but he and Nightingale were immediately attracted to each other and they became life-long close friends. Herbert was instrumental in facilitating Nightingale's pioneering work in Crimea and in the field of nursing, and Nightingale became a key advisor to Herbert in his political career.
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Did she really forgo her chasity for an older man? Is libido is a new kind of sex drive unfilment perverted into alcoholics and workolics ? Just wondering??? 
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Errm... you get all these when working in Australia, tooOriginally posted by Mao x 2:Yeah... I would rather migrate to Australia and open a hotdog stall by the beach. I'm sick of this place.. Salary sucks, office politics, backstabbing, blood sucking government, etc..
Though may not be at a hotdog stall I might add. -
Isn't this funny... we were gathering with some friends tonight & talking about the exact same topic! Hubby & I migrated to Sydney quite recently; what attracted us to move here included:
- Got relatives in Australia
- Close enough to Singapore so can travel to & fro quite easily, compared to if we were to migrate to other countries (e.g. US, UK)
- We like the more relaxed lifestyle here, and also being able to knock off from work on time is a BIG plus; we have enough time to enjoy our private life, not like in Sg when working hours tend to 'eat' into one's private life.
- Being a permanent resident / citizen of Australia, we are more or less 'guaranteed' that we can use the medical system when we need to, and not pay a hefty sum like in Singapore hospitals; all we need is private health insurance which is relatively cheap
- Property is cheaper than in Singapore (some more, house and land are yours forever, not like for 99 or 999 yrs!)
- Same as the above, where cars are concerned
- People are generally more tolerant & friendly.
Negatives include:
- Cost of living is more expensive than in Singapore.
- We find it hard to be good friends with the Aussies (could be cultural barriers? Can mix well with them lah, but just cannot be goody-goody, buddy pals like we had in Sg)
- Miss our family & friends!
Errm can't think of any more reasons, if/when I do, I'll add them in! -
yea man and my lecturer is an aussie!Originally posted by charlize:If I am not mistaken, Australia currently wants craftsmen and not degree holders to apply for aussie citizenship.
There is a demand for people like carpenters, plumbers, mechanics etc.
Those people with ITE certs should go take up the opportunity and start a brand new life overseas. -
Aussies is quite friendly wat, can see that frm my lecturer.Originally posted by SydneyLibrarian:Isn't this funny... we were gathering with some friends tonight & talking about the exact same topic! Hubby & I migrated to Sydney quite recently; what attracted us to move here included:
- Got relatives in Australia
- Close enough to Singapore so can travel to & fro quite easily, compared to if we were to migrate to other countries (e.g. US, UK)
- We like the more relaxed lifestyle here, and also being able to knock off from work on time is a BIG plus; we have enough time to enjoy our private life, not like in Sg when working hours tend to 'eat' into one's private life.
- Being a permanent resident / citizen of Australia, we are more or less 'guaranteed' that we can use the medical system when we need to, and not pay a hefty sum like in Singapore hospitals; all we need is private health insurance which is relatively cheap
- Property is cheaper than in Singapore (some more, house and land are yours forever, not like for 99 or 999 yrs!)
- Same as the above, where cars are concerned
- People are generally more tolerant & friendly.
Negatives include:
- Cost of living is more expensive than in Singapore.
- We find it hard to be good friends with the Aussies (could be cultural barriers? Can mix well with them lah, but just cannot be goody-goody, buddy pals like we had in Sg)
- Miss our family & friends!
Errm can't think of any more reasons, if/when I do, I'll add them in! -
Friendly, yes, without a doubt, most of them can b friendly if they want to.Originally posted by FBI:Aussies is quite friendly wat, can see that frm my lecturer. -
Got that before lah ....They also said I cannot work anywhere else if I break my bond and said I had no money to pay up such a HUGE sum. Then she shut up when my father came by and talk to the hospital CEO who was his former classmate to give them the bond in bank draft . Suddenly everything is ok ...everything is good.....all the best in your career ...if you want to come back to this hospital ....please do so. ....you are always welcome. And letter drafted in 1 hour. How to beat that?Originally posted by Rhonda:elindra, you won't imagine how dirty the HR is... I've heard accounts of them trying to get payments for stockings that were given to an employee three months before she quit, and how they hounded ex-employees for some crazy medical bill payments that they're entitled to, etc etc!
Now, if you approach them for a Certification Letter stating that you're employed by them, etc, they will insist that you tell them WHO the letter's for!
That's because the Ward Sisters complain about the HR knowing before them that employees are about to quit so they want to make it difficult for us to apply for work elsewhere! WTF!!! I shouted at them, that it's their job to give me certification letters and they can jolly well churn a ''To Whom It May Concern'' letter for me cause it's none of their business what I do with my life cause I'm only working for them, not enslaved to them! 
There are so many atrocities re. the way they treat the local and foreign staff... little wonder that most of us are leaving, or are contemplating leaving, or if they have no choice cause of family commitments, they get demoralised.
To solve the drain, they make it harder for people to leave instead of improving our work conditions so that no one wants to leave! Thwarted, it's all thwarted!! Where did these people learn management?!!
So, instead of motivating their workforce, they want to make it tough for disgruntled employees to leave. So what if they stay... do you think the low morale won't affect their job performance?
The wonders of 'lateral thinking'. They don't just 'think out of the box'... they think on an entirely different and irrelevant dimension altogether!
PUI! Die die also don't want to go back. I rather jump off the hospital top floor . -
Originally posted by norey:
Nurses also have to eat , nurses also have to buy things to survive. Nurses are also human beings. You must be talking about Mother theresa and her calling to service lah - that one she do is for charitable causes. She is a saint.
My dear Rhonda, U wrote:
[b]I think most people would like to retire earlier. It's crazy to keep on slogging for so long! And then, what's your whole life about? Preparing for work, and then work, work, work? Bleak, isn't it?
WE know about nurses and their calling to service..Did you pursue it because it was a career or a calling like Florence Nightingale? Or because it was just to hop on to a rice bowl for survive? It's the same everywhere whether in here or Australia..maybe it just to make your day count for yourself..you are not born to live forever here on earth, we all will migrate too..It's 40 per cent for taxes in Ozzie land Lor!
I will like to migrate to this place:
http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Heaven [/b]
Not all nurses can be saints ...and not all saints are nurses either.
Nursing is a job - some people may enjoy it and some may not, just like any other career. Nightingale was subservient enough to put a freakin pledge to tie nurses to a handmaiden role BUT she was brave enough to talk back to the medical officer regarding sanitation of the makeshift hospitals during the crimean wars . Yet she did not encourage her own nurses to think for themselves , like she did when the medical officer refuse to listen to her - she basically F**ked up the whole nursing profession by being a hypocrite.
Australia taxation rate is 27% if you fill in your tax file number and it is the only job u claim the first 6k off . First 6k is non taxable . If you got HECs ( subsidised government fund for education) ,then it may blow up to 40% but otherwise no. 27% goes into medicare ( healthcare - free hospitalisations etc and subsidy for meds) , centerlink ( if you need the dole) , and other infrastructures of Australia. -
I've thought about it before, and plan to do so. Oz isn't my only option. I just want a place with more (physical) space, cooler weather (I prefer it to tropical weather), room for artistic expression and a kinder society.
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So.. the question is.. "WHEN"?Originally posted by Kuali Baba:I've thought about it before, and plan to do so. Oz isn't my only option. I just want a place with more (physical) space, cooler weather (I prefer it to tropical weather), room for artistic expression and a kinder society. -
Tell me: quando, quando, quando?Originally posted by SydneyLibrarian:So.. the question is.. "WHEN"? -
LOL that is actually my mobile phone ringtoneOriginally posted by Kuali Baba:Tell me: quando, quando, quando? -
Originally posted by av98m:Psssst. Rhonda, did you know that Florence Nightingale had a very high libido? Izzit?! How would you know?!
If it's truly so, then she has become my idol! -
That's so narrow-minded... just like proclaiming that ALL cities are the same.Originally posted by Gazelle:If you like nature, surfing, space, Australia is a good place to live. If you want to migrate to Australia and live in the City, i might as well just stay in Singapore. For someone who profess to be well-travelled, that's some far-fetched claim you're making. -
Very well said! And yes, nurses need to make a living too! We're not saints.Originally posted by fymk:Nurses also have to eat , nurses also have to buy things to survive. Nurses are also human beings. You must be talking about Mother theresa and her calling to service lah - that one she do is for charitable causes. She is a saint.
Not all nurses can be saints ...and not all saints are nurses either.
Nursing is a job - some people may enjoy it and some may not, just like any other career. Nightingale was subservient enough to put a freakin pledge to tie nurses to a handmaiden role BUT she was brave enough to talk back to the medical officer regarding sanitation of the makeshift hospitals during the crimean wars . Yet she did not encourage her own nurses to think for themselves , like she did when the medical officer refuse to listen to her - she basically F**ked up the whole nursing profession by being a hypocrite.
Australia taxation rate is 27% if you fill in your tax file number and it is the only job u claim the first 6k off . First 6k is non taxable . If you got HECs ( subsidised government fund for education) ,then it may blow up to 40% but otherwise no. 27% goes into medicare ( healthcare - free hospitalisations etc and subsidy for meds) , centerlink ( if you need the dole) , and other infrastructures of Australia. -
ever thot abt it... but dunno where and no ability to migrate....
somemore it's like overseas, there's no one who knows u... at least no relatives to say "har? u working as a fruit picker ah?" or whatever nonsense.... can really live a life for urself and not one for others to see....