Have you ever considered migration?
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Think of all the cultural icons you have in Canberra. hahaha no i pity you. But hey you only 2.5hrs from Sydney.Originally posted by fymk:Melbourne is also very good.
What ever don't go to canberra unless you are working there like me and have no choice....that place is a wasteland out of nowhere . Just government servants and more government servants and more diplomatic service people.
Shit man ...what have I got myself into! Haha .....this is going to be so traumatic . NO PARTY LIFE! -
Hi Littlestream,Originally posted by littlestream:Aiyah......like that I better stick to Canada lah. Not about to give up my pension plans and so-called free medicals. But looking for "winter" homes ley. Want to escape winter so must find alternate location.
The "snow birds" (usually seniors) used to "migrate" to Florida but with hurricanes and high crime rate, they throttled to Phoenix, Arizona. Got a relative there but it is so hot there. Each time I see him, he more "chow tar" (burnt).
While Vancouver has mild winter, but it rained ALOT!!!
I have close friends (mostly Japanese) who are living in Thailand now, some retired, some still working. Mostly in the Bangkok area or its outskirts. Haven't heard a squeak of regret from any of them. None of them have officially migrated - and I think they don't intend to (no added benefits in doing so).
As for me, I've always liked Southeast Asia because of the informal culture (most of it anyway). I mean I could wear a business suit....or I could wear flip-flops and shorts and sit with one leg up while I eat and no one would even look twice. Not that I've done it before, but you get what I mean.
Ever considered any other place in Thailand? Phuket is a nice place....the eastern seaboard (eg. Pattaya) too. Facilities at these places can't be that bad since there are quite a few foreigners around.
(On the other hand, don't expect first-class service too.....remember how they reacted after the tsunami?).
I also have a recently retired relative who is living in Johor now. Bought a HUGE semi-detached house for the price of a 5-room HDB flat here. Security might be a little problem there if he's unlucky....but he's the kind who never has cash. All the things he has are like old 29" TV, old sofa, scratched up tables, etc. He says "if they can be bothered to carry them, let them have it".
I also have another relative (near retirement age) who has just bought an apartment in Bangkok. Downtown, S$100k only. He lives between Singapore, Bangkok and London (due to business).
Actually, I wonder how crucial it is to be really close to a good hospital. I have a close friend who is Dutch, 65 years old now, living in Jakarta. He's rich, full of medical problems (heart, eyes, legs, back) and usually flies to Singapore or USA for his medical treatments. In fact, he was just in Singapore a few days ago for an eye operation. I'm not sure of the reason, but he's never seeked medical help in Indonesia for his more serious ailments. Overall, he's still living well.
Hey, do you by any chance need a male maid for your "winter house"? I could maintain the house for you in the other 3 warmer seasons....and I don't demand very much. -
Littlestream....and if you throw in AWS (13th month pay), I might even consider putting on a maid's uniform.
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Originally posted by gentlerock:Littlestream....and if you throw in AWS (13th month pay), I might even consider putting on a maid's uniform.
Nice try, gentlerock.
And thanks for the info. Yeap, I don't suppose we need to "emigrate". Perhaps, just short term real estate lease will do. Just stay for a few months and then return back to "base" country. For now, I have to chalk up my pensionable years!
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Migration is not a choice for everyone.
I've friends who came over to Australia and then went back to Singapore (amongst other reasons) because of:
a. Couldn't acclimatise to the culture
b. Couldn't acclimatise to the slower pace of work
c. Couldn't adjust to the high taxation system
On the whole, I think Singaporeans must learn to adopt a thicker "skin", be more bold (myself included) and independent.
Life is fairly okay as long as you're not afraid to mingle with the locals (anglos etc.)
I wouldn't say people who went back to Singapore as losers nor people who left Singapore as quitters. Only people with a very narrow mind place labels on such things in a futile attempt to stem the flow of human migration.
As in always, go in with an open mind (if you're in a new country) and you just might be surprised at what life throws at you. -
My bro is now an australia citizen, and I think he is enjoying what he is doing, both family, work and sports. Ask if i want to do what he does everyday, i would say it is a no-no, especially at my age.Originally posted by auxor:Migration is not a choice for everyone.
I've friends who came over to Australia and then went back to Singapore (amongst other reasons) because of:
a. Couldn't acclimatise to the culture
b. Couldn't acclimatise to the slower pace of work
c. Couldn't adjust to the high taxation system
On the whole, I think Singaporeans must learn to adopt a thicker "skin", be more bold (myself included) and independent.
Life is fairly okay as long as you're not afraid to mingle with the locals (anglos etc.)
I wouldn't say people who went back to Singapore as losers nor people who left Singapore as quitters. Only people with a very narrow mind place labels on such things in a futile attempt to stem the flow of human migration.
As in always, go in with an open mind (if you're in a new country) and you just might be surprised at what life throws at you.
I might consider to migrating there for retirement if I can bring my whole family there. -
Nope you're not. Hub and I love Thailand lots and I go there often enough for work.Originally posted by gentlerock:Am I the only one who thinks of migrating to Thailand? Think about it....
Though I think it might be NZ or Aust for retirement coz of friends being there as a consideration factor -
Dear Gazelle,Originally posted by Gazelle:My bro is now an australia citizen, and I think he is enjoying what he is doing, both family, work and sports. Ask if i want to do what he does everyday, i would say it is a no-no, especially at my age.
I might consider to migrating there for retirement if I can bring my whole family there.
Your words of "might", "maybe", "if only" seems to bespeak of a defeatist attitude and an air of resignation due to the attachment and circumstances of your current lifestyle.
If you seriously do wish to consider migration as one of your options when you retire, it would be best to do so at the earliest opportunity. Please do not wait till the last moment before you consider such actions.
Always think of the future with long term objectives in mind and work towards them.
However, if you have always intended to spend your last days in Singapore, then learn to enjoy life in Singapore and appreciate what Singapore has to offer.
To excuse an inaction and attribute this to current circumstances is akin to doing nothing at all and it could be the greatest travesty to yourself that can possibly occur. -
I dont see myself migrating anytime soon because of a few reasons.Originally posted by auxor:Dear Gazelle,
Your words of "might", "maybe", "if only" seems to bespeak of a defeatist attitude and an air of resignation due to the attachment and circumstances of your current lifestyle.
If you seriously do wish to consider migration as one of your options when you retire, it would be best to do so at the earliest opportunity. Please do not wait till the last moment before you consider such actions.
Always think of the future with long term objectives in mind and work towards them.
However, if you have always intended to spend your last days in Singapore, then learn to enjoy life in Singapore and appreciate what Singapore has to offer.
To excuse an inaction and attribute this to current circumstances is akin to doing nothing at all and it could be the greatest travesty to yourself that can possibly occur.
a) I am still building my wealth here in Singapore
b) Both parents will not want to leave Singapore since all their friends and relatives are here, and it is not right to just leave them behind.
c) I find Australia lifestyle too slow for my liking. (at least for now)
d) It is hard to do interenational trade when you are down under and I dont see why I should distant myself from emerging market
Migrating is a piece of cake if you have the money. Moreover, i already have a sibling living there, that will make things much easier. If I ever do mirgrate, I would prefer to live far away from the cities and get myself a ranch.. -
Dear Gazelle,
U said:
I dont see myself migrating anytime soon because of a few reasons.
a) I am still building
my wealth here in Singapore
b) Both parents will not want to leave Singapore since all their friends and relatives are here, and it is not right to just leave them behind.
c) I find Australia lifestyle too slow for my liking. (at least for now)
d) It is hard to do interenational trade when you are down under and I dont see why I should distant myself from emerging market
Migrating is a piece of cake if you have the money. Moreover, i already have a sibling living there, that will make things much easier. If I ever do mirgrate, I would prefer to live far away from the cities and get myself a ranch.. You do sound like the rich man in the Bible ? 
Perhap U better go be4 it's too late! -
Originally posted by alien2:
Dear Gazelle,
U said:
[b]I dont see myself migrating anytime soon because of a few reasons.
a) I am still building my wealth here in Singapore
b) Both parents will not want to leave Singapore since all their friends and relatives are here, and it is not right to just leave them behind.
c) I find Australia lifestyle too slow for my liking. (at least for now)
d) It is hard to do interenational trade when you are down under and I dont see why I should distant myself from emerging market
Migrating is a piece of cake if you have the money. Moreover, i already have a sibling living there, that will make things much easier. If I ever do mirgrate, I would prefer to live far away from the cities and get myself a ranch.. You do sound like the rich man in the Bible ? Perhap U better go be4 it's too late!
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Migration isn't exactly as easy as Gazelle paints it out to be. It's not just money that you need... it's A LOT of money! Esp if you're thinking of entering based on the capital you'll be bringing in.
Anyways, there's a point system based on the amount of capital you have, your profession, your age, your qualifications, etc etc. Even if you meet all the criteria, if the quota in that country has been met, you still won't be able to get that immigration paperwork.
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err.... Rhonda, heard from a lot of nurses here that nurses are in demand everywhere! almost all of the nurses here are from overseas as well.... ditto for US.... but then, work here doesnt mean migration... mayb just trying out different life?
whatever will b in the future then will c lor.... no matter where u r.... home is where the heart is....
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Think of it this way. Alot of embassies around - some would hold events on their national /independence day whatever - I just go look see lor .Originally posted by Kan_i:Think of all the cultural icons you have in Canberra. hahaha no i pity you. But hey you only 2.5hrs from Sydney.
Bleh Sydney - no thanks . Melbourne is better. 1 year of sydney is more than enough for me.
Hah ...little me that scary meh?Originally posted by LazerLordz:I can understand why my cousin who works in Canberra, wants to move over here to work. -
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err.... Rhonda, heard from a lot of nurses here that nurses are in demand everywhere! almost all of the nurses here are from overseas as well.... ditto for US.... but then, work here doesnt mean migration... mayb just trying out different life?
whatever will b in the future then will c lor.... no matter where u r.... home is where the heart is....
I agreed immigration is complicated as it is with or without money. The purpose is not just for your own reasons but think for your future and your own children's future..
I helped a couple married in Spore then they both moved to Australia. Later after so many year passed, wi 2 beautiful kids The couple always returned < every yearly>and called upon me < one is a nurse > and their report is great < abot Australia, their new 13 years old home in Melbourne>> but nowadays Australia wants a different kind of people who can profit their economy and help pay for their veterans' old age pension.. however, my friends it is not likely they will get anything when their time is up for retirement..Think abot it too!