Poly or JC rt?
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To many O level school leavers, this is a head aching qn
Just gotten from today's ST, 400 JC students transfer to Poly each year due to average grades that gets them nowhere
Also, the parents are still the old day mindset, there are still many myths
1) Poly only takes in poor grades students (It is not true as many courses like Chinese Studies need A1 or A2 for Chinese as I checked NP site)
2) Poly only offers Eng and Biz courses (Not true)
3) Poly students many dun get a degree later on (Poly have said at least 60% pursue a degree within 5 years)
4) JC students are more prepared into Uni education (Not true says Uni prof in the ST interview) -
i say JC students are not as well equipped as the poly grads when they enter uni..
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the problem abt going to JC or poly shld not be such a big issue really, if poly grads are given equal opportunities as the JCers to pursue a degree. spore education system is not very forgiving once we made a wrong choice previously, especially when u hv to decide what you want to be in your late teens where most of u do not hv real working experience in the area that u choose.
my advice is : the job environment and our interests are never static. choose one that u are passionate about. once your passion is there, it is tough not to do well. as long as u are the best in any one field, u will be appreciated. gd luck! -
Poly vs JC war going to start again?
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I hope this would not happen hereOriginally posted by silv3rgal:Poly vs JC war going to start again?
But I just wanna know why the folks are still having such old thinkings? -
the threadstarter main concern is about parent's mindsets and they being naive about the truths and facts..Originally posted by silv3rgal:Poly vs JC war going to start again? -
no matter what, pple are still looking highly at JC students.
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And i got a feeling that it'll lead to flame wars again.... hope it's not gonna happen again.Originally posted by stellazio:the threadstarter main concern is about parent's mindsets and they being naive about the truths and facts.. -
yes i wouldn't mind letting those RJC,HCI etc students have their glory as being the cream of the crops..Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:no matter what, pple are still looking highly at JC students.
but why do i have to stand in awe of those ****ing lousy JCs that i shunned..
the problem here is that once people hear the word JC and they think its good without even probing more.. -
Not true... poly or jc, it's just a phase of life... when u start working, they'll look at ur performance and highest qualifications, who cares if u're from poly or jc?Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:no matter what, pple are still looking highly at JC students. -
The thing now comes, is all at HCI doing well?Originally posted by stellazio:yes i wouldn't mind letting those RJC,HCI etc students have their glory as being the cream of the crops..
but why do i have to stand in awe of those ****ing lousy JCs that i shunned..
the problem here is that once people hear the word JC and they think its good without even probing more.. -
let your child choose...
i wanted to go to poly.. i think i would have had a better time of it there..
but folks in the past didn't want to..
in the end, i decided the fight wasn't really worth it.. looking back, i should have fought it out with them -
it's true tt in working world, a JC student might lose out by a poly student. however when the students are still studying, outsiders judge them by their sch.Originally posted by silv3rgal:Not true... poly or jc, it's just a phase of life... when u start working, they'll look at ur performance and highest qualifications, who cares if u're from poly or jc? -
at least they were either very hardworking or quite smart when they did their Os.Originally posted by sbst275:The thing now comes, is all at HCI doing well?
and for that i give them the credit.. -
Obviously, A levels can't be compared to a poly dip, A level's only a stepping stone to university.Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:it's true tt in working world, a JC student might lose out by a poly student. however when the students are still studying, outsiders judge them by their sch.
But from what I know, most people do further their studies after their diplomas and A levels. That's what I was talking about. I wasn't refering to fresh JC and poly grads. -
i think its just another phase of life
whether u do well or not
largely up to ur effort and determination
and whether u can withstand the temptation of following the crowd -
1) Poly only takes in poor grades students
That's definately not true. Quite a number of courses have quite high cut off points. And also, alot of students with grades eligible to enter JC, may it be below 20pts or 10pts, do apply for poly too. It's all about their interests and what they wanna study. They choose poly not for the sake of studying in one, but because poly provides them with courses which interests them.
2) Poly only offers Eng and Biz courses
Of coz that isn't true.
3) Poly students many dun get a degree later on (Poly have said at least 60% pursue a degree within 5 years)
To pursue a degree after a diploma is a decision which is up to each and every individual... some would just make do with their poly dip, some are willing to spend more time to further their studies. I'm not trying to generalise, but most of my friends/classmates who have been through poly education do further their studies, either in local uni,SIM or in universities abroad.
4) JC students are more prepared into Uni education
That's not true too.... in fact poly students are more prepared for uni education, especially when the field of studies are similiar/the same. Thats why some poly students get exempted from yr1 in certain courses offered by local unis. -
i think i beat the odds
nvm
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I completed courses in BOTH a Junior College AND a Polytechnic, and here's what I have to say :
- Junior Colleges focus more on the academics. I learnt a lot about how to present an essay better, how to formulate your arguments, etc, 'soft skills' that have proven to be very invaluable in critical thinking. This will be very important when one proceeds to higher education in future.
- Polytechnics prepare one to be competent in a particular field. There's theory AND practical training involved. Thus, when a poly graduate enters the workforce, their contribution to the company can be almost immediate, because they have been rigorously trained to take on the challenges of their role.
One focuses on pure academics; another focuses on competencies. Both have their use in our economy.
Academics should never be belittled - afterall, it's the basis where Research and certain fields like Medicine is built upon. You cannot do without academics in any field.
Nowadays, both poly grads and 'A' level grads can enter the Universities to obtain the same degree. So then, isn't it time to stop arguing which is more superior but instead, choose the path that one is most suited for?
I've benefited from BOTH and I don't regret the experiences I've gained from both. The academics widened my perception whilst the competencies taught me valuable life-long skills. I wouldn't trade one for the other! -
That's so subjective! Whether one uses the 'A' levels or the Poly Dip to enter a Degree program, it's not a determinant of the outcome.Originally posted by stellazio:i say JC students are not as well equipped as the poly grads when they enter uni.. -
Nope! Here in Club 30, we do not encourage wars... we try our best to keep discussions going and to agree to disagree.Originally posted by silv3rgal:Poly vs JC war going to start again? 
Erm... well, we try out best to keep it that way anyways... unless antagonised! 
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I'm quite surprised too... because I'd think that with all the publicity about this issue in the newspapers and in the News on TV, the parents would realise by now that more people are choosing the Poly's over the JC's. The demand is clearly for Poly's so why is there still an apparent stigma?Originally posted by sbst275:I hope this would not happen here
But I just wanna know why the folks are still having such old thinkings?
Hmm... could it be that in the past, it used to be much easier to enter the Poly than the JC? And they haven't updated their knowledge and perceptions so they continue to think that way? -
u duno meh..the old is always stubborn..Originally posted by Rhonda:I'm quite surprised too... because I'd think that with all the publicity about this issue in the newspapers and in the News on TV, the parents would realise by now that more people are choosing the Poly's over the JC's. The demand is clearly for Poly's so why is there still an apparent stigma?
Hmm... could it be that in the past, it used to be much easier to enter the Poly than the JC? And they haven't updated their knowledge and perceptions so they continue to think that way?
ok i'm generalizing abit,but yea i do seem to think so..
they never liked to listen to the younger generation.. -
4) JC students are more prepared into Uni education (Not true says Uni prof in the ST interview)
I don't agree with this. Even if they performed average for A Levels, they still can get into university. Diploma holders performed average you see where they go. That will be in terms of results.
Preparation in other terms, poly students will fare better. -
I don't think so. My parents mindset changed le leh. So do my other relatives.Originally posted by sbst275:I hope this would not happen here
But I just wanna know why the folks are still having such old thinkings?