Boss/Company tells you to lie. Do you?
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been talking to people.. seems that there are many bosses/employers/companies which tell their staff to lie to their clients...
not the little lies like "i'm not in the office now" or "he'll be back in a while"
but the big ones which causes the client to think or behave in another way... like sending the junior guy there and saying that he's the senior consultant, or that your company has a network of contacts when it doesn't?
seems like a lot of people would do it...
i won't... and i've put that straight to some bosses in the past before...
so, they are thinking of whistleblower laws now..
what do you think will happen when such laws that protect the whistleblower come into being?
and in the meantime, if you were in that position, told by the company to lie, what would you do? -
hmm...
im not gd at lying, and i will nv want to lie.
rather starve than to do something against my conscience and principles. -
Hmm... What about sales ?
Like maybe you manipulate the customer into thinking that its a great buy even though there isnt much difference with the usual price ? or a "Renovation" sale when there isnt any renovation ongoing ?
Would that be considered lies ? Or just sales gimmicks ? -
does omission of truth mean lying?? what constitutes a complete truth?
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not the small ones.. those just obfuscate...
the big ones... whoppers... sort of the type which could get you arrested if found out...
things like falsifying sales data, hiding information so that people will be fooled...
think CAO... -
sometimes boh pian mah
but dun ask me kill people or set fire to homes -
i usually lie to the boss. Customer always comes first for me
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Well, I've been asked to 'modify' budget figures before and I flat-out refused. I just told my boss, "Sorry, but I cannot do it."
I resigned from that job not long after because I just couldn't work for a boss that I perceive to have no integrity, and I was extremely uncomfortable with what I was asked to do. -
Serious/ legal matters.. I won't.
But those "my boss is not around" kind... i will...
"Ren zai jiang hu.. shen bu you ji"
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what i don't understand is that it'll eventually come back and bite them.. do the bosses think that the kar-kia will take the bullet for them?
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no. you only compromise your integrity and that is all you have got.
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Depending on issue concern.
But for my position, i have to do accordingly and professionally.
I am the "buffer" for boss, so at times job requirements no choice but to lie to others.
If it doesn't conflict with law or hurt anyone i guess still ok for me. -
sg job market is really small.. do something wrong in one place, news will travel..
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I haven't experienced that yet. Let's see. But I don't think my boss would do something like that. Actually my boss isn't my boss, she is more like a senior colleague. We can't afford to lie to our customers, I have a profit from every customer I handle and we can't endanger the good reputation of our company.
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i believe that some dont care and change jobs so quickly, that to them they will never see the consequences. And if they ever get pulled up on any previous lies from previous jobs its hard to substantiate whether it was a lie or correct at the time. These guys remember are very good bullsh ittersOriginally posted by the Bear:what i don't understand is that it'll eventually come back and bite them.. do the bosses think that the kar-kia will take the bullet for them? -
I dun do that! Not just you are lying to yourself, but also many others
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I lie to the boss, so I think its pretty fair I return the favour.
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be selfish.
if telling such lies may get me in jail, i wont lie. This is not my business, whatever profit gain from telling these lies wont directly goes to me, therefore not worth the risk.
if the ugly truth of such lies can be easily discovered in near future, which will affect my personal reputation(not the company's reputation) in this trade, i will think twice before i lie. -
I certainly won't. I've seen too many cases of people taking bullets for management when the lies were eventually exposed. Management will claim ignorance and blame it on the hapless scapegoats.
Thankfully, I haven't been put into such a situation....yet. -
I wouldn't do anything illegal. It'll bite you in the as$. I'd be put on alert too if this happens. If we've got to cook up a lie this big, something's got to be very wrong with the business !
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Nothing illegal. Things like saying the boss is not in etc that is fine to me, plus there is something very wrong with the company if you need to lie to cover up big things!Originally posted by the Bear:been talking to people.. seems that there are many bosses/employers/companies which tell their staff to lie to their clients...
not the little lies like "i'm not in the office now" or "he'll be back in a while"
but the big ones which causes the client to think or behave in another way... like sending the junior guy there and saying that he's the senior consultant, or that your company has a network of contacts when it doesn't?
seems like a lot of people would do it...
i won't... and i've put that straight to some bosses in the past before...
so, they are thinking of whistleblower laws now..
what do you think will happen when such laws that protect the whistleblower come into being?
and in the meantime, if you were in that position, told by the company to lie, what would you do? -
you are still in school?Originally posted by browniebaobao:hmm...
im not gd at lying, and i will nv want to lie.
rather starve than to do something against my conscience and principles. -
My boss tell me not to tell anyone I am allowed to encashed my 151 days of unused leave and backdated performance bonus for the past 6 months.
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151 days!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by ditzy:My boss tell me not to tell anyone I am allowed to encashed my 151 days of unused leave and backdated performance bonus for the past 6 months. 
Do you work for NKF?
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Huh? I thought lying is part of the requirements of the job?