Should the Good Samaritans be sued?
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Think local First Aid also the same.. from Red Cross.. mebbe every 3 years and they also give you a card to keep in ur wallet..Originally posted by av98m:I'm not so sure about the law in Singapore quite frankly. My certification was through a US based agency, and needs to be renewed on a yearly basis to ensure proficiency. They give you a certification card to keep in your wallet.
A stranger did collapse in front of me once and everyone else was just gawking. I called for an ambulance but did not touch him. The ambulance took about 15 minutes, by then he had regained consciousness but was not coherent.
I see.. Hmm.. -
adopt a 'not my problem' attitude.
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Earl...
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I'll just call for an ambulance and let the paramedics deal with it. They're trained and paid to do this. Not me.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:ya since u can get sued whether u are certified or not...
doesnt make a difference right? It's really up to whether you want to do it or not...
This might seem rather callous but the possibility of a court case and possible financial ruin, causing suffering to myself and my own family puts me off. -
What if its a drowning case? If you see someone drowning, would u help?
provided you can swim very well BUT if you have no lifeguard training. -
But I think the retard who sued LTA for putting those poles on the overhead bridge won coz he didn't see it and hurt himself while riding on his bicycle?
I dunno if he won coz of compassion by the judge all what seeing that he is the sole breadwinner.
Seriously, I was pretty disgusted by the news coz this was the result of his own stupidity and also why the hell is he riding his bicycle on the overhead bridge. If he can injure himself so seriously on the pole, imagine if it was another person -
Heimlich vs letting the paramedics do it...
the guy will be dead by the time they get around...
or heart attack... each second diminishes the chances of survival...
i've actually did bloody CPR for 45 whole minutes before the bloody paramedics got to the fella... almost died myself.. the fella didn't make it... but i can sleep at night
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Haiyah... just trying to make you see why av would make that comment mah!Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:ya since u can get sued whether u are certified or not... doesnt make a difference right? It's really up to whether you want to do it or not...
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ya.. i know.. and i was pointing out to him why it wouldnt matterOriginally posted by Rhonda:Haiyah... just trying to make you see why av would make that comment mah! -
I still see idiots cycling on pavements and overhead bridges , and speeding somemore.Originally posted by elindra:But I think the retard who sued LTA for putting those poles on the overhead bridge won coz he didn't see it and hurt himself while riding on his bicycle?
I dunno if he won coz of compassion by the judge all what seeing that he is the sole breadwinner.
Seriously, I was pretty disgusted by the news coz this was the result of his own stupidity and also why the hell is he riding his bicycle on the overhead bridge. If he can injure himself so seriously on the pole, imagine if it was another person
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they'll sue you for not recovering little johnny's baseball hatOriginally posted by ShrodingersCat:What if its a drowning case? If you see someone drowning, would u help?
provided you can swim very well BUT if you have no lifeguard training. -
Ya la he must be speeding to get himself paralysed!Originally posted by av98m:I still see idiots cycling on pavements and overhead bridges , and speeding somemore.
The family had the cheek to blame LTA too
I didn't think LTA should pay them anything so I thought it was out of compassion more than anything else.
If he can get himself paralysed from hitting a pole, I have to repeat I don't know what will happen if he hits someone! -
If they do that, they can sue me for using little johnny's baseball bat, on little johnny's head that is currently not covered by little johnny's baseball hat.Originally posted by the Bear:they'll sue you for not recovering little johnny's baseball hat
hurhurhuhrhur -
OK, this scenario...
Nurse sees elderly patient pulling out her feeding tube.
Nurse gets a new feeding tube and prepares to insert the tube so that when feeding time comes round, the old lady can be fed via the tube.
Patient struggles violently and shakes her head with great strength, thrashing about. Nurse calls for help from colleagues because patient is getting violent, kicking her and gripping her wrist in a tight grip.
Nurse's colleagues help to hold patient down. One colleague holds on to patient's head tightly to prevent her from shaking her head. Finally, after a lot of difficulty and struggles, the feeding tube is inserted but due to patient's movements, a bit of bleeding had occured from the nose due to possible trauma.
Patient's family comes to visit around dinnertime, sees a drop of dried blood near patient's nostril, and slight bruising on the wrists where the patient was held down, ask about what happened. When informed, they flew into a rage, saying that the nurses should have been 'more gentle', and started to hurl accusations at the nurses, and march right up to the Ward Sister, and threaten to lodge a formal complaint over the 'mistreatment' and 'physical abuse' of the patient.
What do you think of this scenario? And yes, it IS a real incident. -
I think they should be spanked.Originally posted by Rhonda:OK, this scenario...
Nurse sees elderly patient pulling out her feeding tube.
Nurse gets a new feeding tube and prepares to insert the tube so that when feeding time comes round, the old lady can be fed via the tube.
Patient struggles violently and shakes her head with great strength, thrashing about. Nurse calls for help from colleagues because patient is getting violent, kicking her and gripping her wrist in a tight grip.
Nurse's colleagues help to hold patient down. One colleague holds on to patient's head tightly to prevent her from shaking her head. Finally, after a lot of difficulty and struggles, the feeding tube is inserted but due to patient's movements, a bit of bleeding had occured from the nose due to possible trauma.
Patient's family comes to visit around dinnertime, sees a drop of dried blood near patient's nostril, and slight bruising on the wrists where the patient was held down, ask about what happened. When informed, they flew into a rage, saying that the nurses should have been 'more gentle', and started to hurl accusations at the nurses, and march right up to the Ward Sister, and threaten to lodge a formal complaint over the 'mistreatment' and 'physical abuse' of the patient.
What do you think of this scenario? And yes, it IS a real incident.
Actually alot of Singaporeans should be spanked for abusing their 'rights' -
If its in a swimming pool yes.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:What if its a drowning case? If you see someone drowning, would u help?
provided you can swim very well BUT if you have no lifeguard training.
Open sea will depend on the water condition and if I have the right equipment. Anyhow jump in will be like commiting suicide yourself.
(Bear's sister will understand what I'm talking about) -
Well, guess the implication is, if you tried to help, and the person died, and you don't have an up-to-date certification for CPR, that would create one more point against your case because you'd be an 'untrained personnel' who 'caused the death' of the person due to your 'ignorance'.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:ya.. i know.. and i was pointing out to him why it wouldnt matter
Something like that.
So yeah, it would matter somewhat, if you adopt that angle.
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Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:If they do that, they can sue me for using little johnny's baseball bat, on little johnny's head that is currently not covered by little johnny's baseball hat.
hurhurhuhrhur 
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If I'm confident I can swim there and make it back I'd jump in
What about if you were driving and along the road there's a man bloodied, almost collapsing, very bad state- one limb danging by a sinew kinda injury - would you stop in your brand new car (new and clean with new leather smell) and rush him to the hospital?Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:What if its a drowning case? If you see someone drowning, would u help?
provided you can swim very well BUT if you have no lifeguard training. -
if this is somewhere else .... the LTA would have countersued the cyclist for cycling on the wrong place ....Originally posted by av98m:I still see idiots cycling on pavements and overhead bridges , and speeding somemore.
but then again, the chap was the sole breadwinner or something wasn't he, if I remember correctly ......
oh well ... maybe the chaps there figured it's like doing a good deed ? .... -
oh... i used to do that...
now, i wonder what the hell am i doing in my current section?
Originally posted by elindra:I think they should be spanked.
Actually alot of Singaporeans should be spanked for abusing their 'rights' -
YES!!Originally posted by elindra:I think they should be spanked.
Actually alot of Singaporeans should be spanked for abusing their 'rights'
I had a good long talk with a nurse pal when I visited her last night. We were talking about how we missed another nurse pal who quit and returned to Malaysia because he was jaded by how badly he was being treated by the seniors at the workplace and he was too frustrated with having to handle unreasonable Singaporeans.
Actually, I know of a lot of nurses, local and foreigners, who are exasperated by having to deal with our fellow locals.
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Well.....you gotta feel sorry for his family even when you think he's a moron. I guess they were thinking more f his family's burden.Originally posted by Fatum:if this is somewhere else .... the LTA would have countersued the cyclist for cycling on the wrong place ....
but then again, the chap was the sole breadwinner or something wasn't he, if I remember correctly ......
oh well ... maybe the chaps there figured it's like doing a good deed ? .... -
Yeah I think it was an act of compassion too and yes he was the sole breadwinner.Originally posted by Fatum:if this is somewhere else .... the LTA would have countersued the cyclist for cycling on the wrong place ....
but then again, the chap was the sole breadwinner or something wasn't he, if I remember correctly ......
oh well ... maybe the chaps there figured it's like doing a good deed ? ....
Anyway I was pretty pissed off by the family remarks. -
I can imagine.. if *touch wood* i kena heart attack, collapse in public & pple just mind their own business.. walk here walk there & kpo, "jian si bu jiu".. by the time 995 arrive.. sigh.. no hope liao.