Originally posted by the Bear:
baby, yes...
the moment a guy is very nice, he'll be walked all over, taken for granted blah blah.. but there are exceptions
but most of the time, as you know, nice guys are not "exciting" and therefore overlooked.. they're wallflowers, and to be blunt, bad guys attract... the nice guy is... nice...
it was said that the ladies delude themselves that they can "change the bad dude" and make him a nice person for themselves... but their hearts are eventually broken.. they run to the nice guy, cry their guts out, then abandon him for the next bad dude that comes along...
(for that, some men are not immune to being attracted to the "bad girl" too)
the nice guy is there to be used as a cushion, as a friend.. he'll never be seen as a romantic partner..
but hey.. there are exceptions
here's the sad thing:
the woman tries and the bad guy actually changes, the woman then cries bitterly that he's not the man she fell in love with..
the woman tries and the bad guy doesn't change, the woman cries bitterly that he doesn't love her enough to change...
get a nice guy...
get me
You do have a valid point there - generalisation never did anyone good. Of course not everyone is bad in a 'nice' way... as with everything else, there are exceptions to the rule. We can never tell for sure who is 'bad' and who is 'good', anyhow - everyone's gauge of what is acceptable or otherwise differs.
What may be acceptable for some, is a total no-no for another... and if a guy were to perhaps do something or behave in a certain way which does not adhere to your 'requirement' as to how a partner should be like... do we then brand him a bad guy? Suppose he likes to have the occasional night out with the guys. No matter how close two people are, I feel that one's individuality should never be compromised. What will be perfectly fine with me, may not go down too well with another. Would you be a 'bad guy' if you were to not go according to your partner's whims and fancy?
When one loves a person, I don't think that they should want the person to change in any way... at least not forcibly. We learn more about the other person as we progress further into a relationship, and I doubt we can truly say we know a person completely, even after decades of marriage. People mature, adapt and change accordingly to the situation and circumstances, but I believe that we would always retain our basic character types. This is what we would have to discover and accept in order to be able to say that we truly love a person. As a couple, that's when two people mould and suit their characters / lifestyle to match their partners.
A personal relationship that is life-giving is one of mutuality: mutual trust, mutual giving, and mutual receiving. When I say "I love you"... what I mean is: I want to give myself to you -- my time, my patience, my listening ear, my forgiveness, all of meÂ… and that I graciously accept your person, who and what you are; and that I trust in the selflessness of the agape that you offer me. It's sad when that trust and belief falls into the heart of the wrong person.
People change - some of these 'bad' guys get tired of sowing their wild oats and swimming against the current... they develop a paunch, let themselves go. They become like any other person - because they were ordinary to begin with. Maybe circumstances, societal pressures and survival instincts made them who they were when they were bad. In turn, maybe the nice guy whom you thought was quite a catch feels that he has been shortchanged and has a mid-life crisis. He may even become worse than all the bad guys put together.
Our emotions go through a constant roller coaster ride so long as we have the sensitivity to feel. Bad and good guys aside... how many of us can truly say that we can choose whom we fall in love with?