Bad company cultures vs good ones
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What kind of lousy company cultures have you experienced?
At my ex company, as it is a local owned company, where the management is mostly made up of the owners who are from the same family, you need to report to all of them.
Then when you are unsure about something and ask manager A, he'd tell you to go ask manager B, and B would ask you to go ask C, and C in turn would say to ask A. So you go around in a circle.
Oh yeah, and they look at you weird when you go off on time, or 15 minutes after the end of the working hours, even when you've finished your work or has something on that day.. you get the picture... really sucks.
The managers also pitched different company goals that kind of confuse you. They'd also blame the employees if they suspect them of doing something wrongly without checking the facts first, e.g. shouting loudly at the employee in front of everyone. Really bad leaders. -
got a no.2 at the organisation now who micromanages EVERYTHING...
and he's got his stable of pets who gets the best of everything.. postings, promotions...
thing is.. it is a culture that encourages sycophants as they will rise and populate the top management...
those who do the actual work are a happy-go-lucky lot who don't give a flying about the idiots up high.. and are pretty happy to just do their work..
there was also a merger of 2 organisations to become the one i am in now.. there is a clear difference in cultures... one just goes about doing the work, while the other does minimal work while trumpeting whatever the hell they do...
one side does the work and then goes home, the other bums around during office hours and then clocks OT doing work after office hours, trying to show off to the (usually) workaholic boss..
when the merger happened, people got merged into departments, the cultural differences were clear as a bell... some bosses started to ask what the hell was going on with so many people clocking so many OT hours while some people were going home on time, yet the productivity was equal..
after much teething problems, seems like there's an uneasy truce now.. the 2 sides still look at each other with some suspicion... but the newer recruits are pointing the way... unsaddled by the baggage of the past, they learn to work hard, work right and then get a life outside the office
i can't say if the culture of my organisation is good or bad.. coz it's still evolving after a sudden and painful merger... but i've seen good and bad of both sides.. unfortunately, it seems to be mixing up into one huge Mediocre Culture
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I hate it when they try to rule you with an iron hand!
- Biometric punch-in punch-out system.....applies to managers as well
- Fine of $1 per minute if late
- Compulsory attendance for company sponsored events or company events
- Sales personnel have to punch in and out everytime they step in and out of the office. -
Originally posted by elindra:I hate it when they try to rule you with an iron hand!
- Biometric punch-in punch-out system.....applies to managers as well
- Fine of $1 per minute if late
If they implemented that at my workplace....*presses calculator...*
I'd be paying close to $500 every month!!
*av98m is a serial late-comer*
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Originally posted by av98m:
If they implemented that at my workplace....*presses calculator...*
I'd be paying close to $500 every month!!
*av98m is a serial late-comer*
I was never late before then, but I hated the rule too -
One bad experience = "must not be late to start work but must end work late".
luckily, i got out of it
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someone wrecked the "punch in, punch out" system at work
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the most amusing thing is to see the long queue at the punch card station minutes before official knock-offOriginally posted by the Bear:someone wrecked the "punch in, punch out" system at work -
R u talking abt physically ? After the punch card system got abused, the company management got so fascinated about high-technology, that now it uses a thumbprint sensor to track sales person movements ...Originally posted by the Bear:someone wrecked the "punch in, punch out" system at work -
it read our smart security passes which has a chip embedded in it..
someone literally punched outOriginally posted by gd4u:R u talking abt physically ? After the punch card system got abused, the company management got so fascinated about high-technology, that now it uses a thumbprint sensor to track sales person movements ... -
Cool, so did he get 'punched' out of company or his pay his 'punched' out ???Originally posted by the Bear:it read our smart security passes which has a chip embedded in it..
someone literally punched out -
My ex boss (which is really The Company since my ex-co is a very small one) forces us to have lunch together.. WITH HIM. Those who doesn't want to, will be viewed as dissidents and rebels.
He also views requesting for Time Off after copious amounts of overtime impudent.
So much angst left over even though I left.
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Neat!Originally posted by the Bear:it read our smart security passes which has a chip embedded in it..
someone literally punched out -
I'm one of the few people at work who can eat at the same table with just about anyone. I don't give a shit who I'm eating with, I just eat.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:My ex boss (which is really The Company since my ex-co is a very small one) forces us to have lunch together.. WITH HIM. Those who doesn't want to, will be viewed as dissidents and rebels.
He also views requesting for Time Off after copious amounts of overtime impudent.
So much angst left over even though I left.
*av98m is a mean but not lean eating machine* v v -
Sigh.. my ex boss also insists on talking abt work THROUGH lunch often.Originally posted by av98m:I'm one of the few people at work who can eat at the same table with just about anyone. I don't give a shit who I'm eating with, I just eat.
*av98m is a mean but not lean eating machine* v v
He also insists that we talk to everyone EQUALLY. Once, a colleague (girl) and I who were rather close were involved in a conversation about mutual people we know during a course. he scolded us later cos we didnt include another colleague (guy) in the conversation though lots of other 'little' conversations were taking place at the table. Its like GEEE its LUNCH TIME!!! I just wanan RELACK can or not. -
Oh its no problem for me. somehow I can chatter my way through meals with management even though 90% of what comes out of my mouth is nonsense in such situations.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:Sigh.. my ex boss also insists on talking abt work THROUGH lunch often.
He also insists that we talk to everyone EQUALLY. Once, a colleague (girl) and I who were rather close were involved in a conversation about mutual people we know during a course. he scolded us later cos we didnt include another colleague (guy) in the conversation though lots of other 'little' conversations were taking place at the table. Its like GEEE its LUNCH TIME!!! I just wanan RELACK can or not.
Say. just how often were you forced to have lunch together? -
shoulda gotten a conspiracy going..
everyone start cultivating extremely bad eating manners, talking with mouth full and splattering food everywhere, shovelling food into your mouth even when it's full, belching at full force, flicking food at your neighbour, talking about bovine bowel movements
after a while, he'll be so grossed out he'll leave you aloneOriginally posted by ShrodingersCat:Sigh.. my ex boss also insists on talking abt work THROUGH lunch often.
He also insists that we talk to everyone EQUALLY. Once, a colleague (girl) and I who were rather close were involved in a conversation about mutual people we know during a course. he scolded us later cos we didnt include another colleague (guy) in the conversation though lots of other 'little' conversations were taking place at the table. Its like GEEE its LUNCH TIME!!! I just wanan RELACK can or not. -
Every Single Day that I worked there. Until.. my colleagues and I resorted to lying that we need to run separate errands (becos if we move off together, he will view it as a conspiracy and say we spending TOO much time together. Dammit we're GIRLS! we CLIQUE!) then meet elsewhere for lunch without him.Originally posted by av98m:Say. just how often were you forced to have lunch together? -
Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:Every Single Day that I worked there.
Your boss sounds like quite a lonely chap -
Sigh he won't. He hates me. Somehow he brings out the worst in me. He is so anal.. so i can't help cracking my most stupid jokes in front of him. And worst, he doesn't get that I am JOKING. So he was very biased against me.Originally posted by the Bear:shoulda gotten a conspiracy going..
everyone start cultivating extremely bad eating manners, talking with mouth full and splattering food everywhere, shovelling food into your mouth even when it's full, belching at full force, flicking food at your neighbour, talking about bovine bowel movements
after a while, he'll be so grossed out he'll leave you alone
sigh. angst. it's been.. 2 years since I left. But... .... Hmm.. he tried to make me a scapegoat for something he didnt do (and the co. almost got sued).. and I find it very hard to forgive that. -
he is. anal retentive and obsessive. he doesnt have a life and doesnt expect other people to have any.Originally posted by av98m:
Your boss sounds like quite a lonely chap -
Ahh..the very worst kind. The kind that has no life.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:he is. anal retentive and obsessive. he doesnt have a life and doesnt expect other people to have any.
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sigh. yah. he is forever asking us to go for drinks with him after work. if we dont want.. same.. he accuse us of not participating in 'office bonding'. A guy friend of mine kenna cos he simply doesnt enjoy the pubs.Originally posted by av98m:Ahh..the very worst kind. The kind that has no life.
oh dear. I guess i am purging too much. sorry. -
it's okay.. better than keeping it all inside
we've all met horrid bosses...
i had one that looked and behaved like Dilbert's Pointy-Haired Boss!
just as stupid tooOriginally posted by ShrodingersCat:sigh. yah. he is forever asking us to go for drinks with him after work. if we dont want.. same.. he accuse us of not participating in 'office bonding'. A guy friend of mine kenna cos he simply doesnt enjoy the pubs.
oh dear. I guess i am purging too much. sorry. -
Its been 2 years since I left and still I have nightmares abt himOriginally posted by the Bear:it's okay.. better than keeping it all inside
we've all met horrid bosses...
i had one that looked and behaved like Dilbert's Pointy-Haired Boss!
just as stupid too
Glad to say though now I working in a much better organisation. At least I've been here quite a few months... and it's still nice.