Migration
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Yup, it's called a reality check!Originally posted by littlestream:
Wow! I'm feeling cold!!! Where did that splash of COLD WATER came from? 
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Top Ten
Vancouver
Melbourne
Vienna
Geneva
Perth
Adelaide
Sydney
Zurich
Toronto
Calgary
Vancouver is the world's best place to live, a survey by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) has found. -
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
They best place to live is not necessary the best place to make a living.
[b]Top Ten
Vancouver
Melbourne
Vienna
Geneva
Perth
Adelaide
Sydney
Zurich
Toronto
Calgary
Vancouver is the world's best place to live, a survey by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) has found. [/b] -
just as to sayOriginally posted by Gazelle:They best place to live is not necessary the best place to make a living.
best place to make a living is not necessary the best place to live
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Unless you have already made or inherited all that money, if not, you can forget about the swiss alps.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:just as to say
best place to make a living is not necessary the best place to live -
Yes, agree as i see ur pointOriginally posted by Gazelle:Unless you have already made or inherited all that money, if not, you can forget about the swiss alps. -
This is something I've come to realise... and love about Melbourne too!Originally posted by Gedanken:That's a tough break. Can't say I've had that experience in Oz, although when I'm on holiday back in Singapore quite a number of sales staff have ignored me in favour of someone who was better dressed.
People here don't give snap judgements about you based solely on your outward appearance whereas back in Singapore, that's almost the norm. -
Originally posted by tokyofire:hi robokop,
It's good that u have the thoughts of migrating to Australia, I just came back from a trip to Victoria and I love the lifestyle that they are living..
How to get a PR in Australia.
1. Skilled worker - In this case is quite hard
2. Study Full-Time 4 semsters/16months in Australia - Chances higher
3. Nurse/Doctor - Extremely good chance
For me, I have to take the 3rd option.. I'm not a skilled person. No $ to study in Australia. So i decided to take up nursing sponsorship next year and with the experience that i'll serve out the bond.. I can go Australia and be a registered Nurse.
You may not like the idea of being a nurse BUT let me share the benefits with U...
Good, right?
Since I came over here, I earn more than twice what I used to, and that's after tax too!
It's still hard work but at the end of the day, you bring home a bigger slice of bacon, which suits me fine cause back home in Singapore, you work darn hard and at the end of every month, you bring home a pittance.
Good to meet you here! Stay in touch, hang around!
If you need tips, feel free to ask - fymk and myself are nurses from Singapore who are now in Australia. She's in Canberra now and I'm in Melbourne. Gedanken and Lingos are also in Melbourne. Good luck! You'll find that time flies and your bond period will breeze past! I suggest you start the paperwork process when you're 2.5 years into your bond. good luck! -
Hanor! Hanor!! Why, ah?Originally posted by laurence82:How come people associate migration with Club30? -
why do I find it disturbing that you're thinking of being a nurse just so that you can migrate there and have a cushy life ? ...Originally posted by tokyofire:hi robokop,
It's good that u have the thoughts of migrating to Australia, I just came back from a trip to Victoria and I love the lifestyle that they are living..
How to get a PR in Australia.
1. Skilled worker - In this case is quite hard
2. Study Full-Time 4 semsters/16months in Australia - Chances higher
3. Nurse/Doctor - Extremely good chance
For me, I have to take the 3rd option.. I'm not a skilled person. No $ to study in Australia. So i decided to take up nursing sponsorship next year and with the experience that i'll serve out the bond.. I can go Australia and be a registered Nurse.
You may not like the idea of being a nurse BUT let me share the benefits with U...
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http://www.visas-australia.com/visas/wages-for-registered-nurses-in-australia.asp
Wages for Registered nurses in Australia
REGISTERED NURSE
No further increases
- ANNUAL (AUD)
July 2005
Until July 2006
Year 1
$42,337.69
Year 2
$44,649.20
Year 3
$46,950.28
Year 4
$49,423.54
Year 5
$51,870.72
Year 6
$54,323.11
Year 7
$57,114.66
Year 8 +
$59,462.70
REGISTERED NURSE
No further increases
- WEEKLY RATE (AUD)
July 2005
Until July 2006
Year 1
$811.40
Year 2
$855.70
Year 3
$899.80
Year 4
$947.20
Year 5
$994.10
Year 6
$1,041.10
Year 7
$1,094.60
Year 8 +
$1,139.60
Salary rates are determined by years of experience with increases each year up to the eighth year of experience for registered nurses and the fifth year of experience for enrolled nurses.
Further increments depend on the level of responsibility.
Shift Allowances
Employees working afternoon or night shifts are paid percentages of their salary in addition to the ordinary rate, as follows:
afternoon shift commencing at 10.00 am and before 1.00 pm attracts an additional 10%
afternoon shift commencing at 1.00 pm and before 4.00 pm attracts an additional 12.5%
night shift commencing at 4.00 pm and before 4.00 am attracts an additional 15%
night shift commencing at 4.00 am and before 6.00 am attracts an additional 10%.
Employees whose ordinary working hours include work on a Saturday and/or Sunday are paid for ordinary working hours worked between midnight on Friday and midnight on Saturday at the rate of time and one half, and for ordinary hours worked between midnight on Saturday and midnight on Sunday at the rate of time and three quarters.
All salaries and other payments due to employees are paid weekly or fortnightly. Payment for any overtime worked may be deferred to the next pay day.
you know, I personally think of nursing as a noble, life-saving profession, it's a calling, and should always be so ... I hope you will honestly think of what it means to be a nurse and decide it's really what you want to do, and treat it as an end in itself, not a means to another end .....
become an accountant, a chef, a technician or whatever they need there if going over is what you want ... but not a nurse please .... you're holding people's lives in your hands .... -
Fatum, reality check - LOTS of nurses here become nurses not because of a 'higher calling' but because it's a profession that offers flexibility and pays well. I first realised that during my short clinical attachment in the US and now, that idea continues to prevail.Originally posted by Fatum:why do I find it disturbing that you're thinking of being a nurse just so that you can migrate there and have a cushy life ? ...
you know, I personally think of nursing as a noble, life-saving profession, it's a calling, and should always be so ... I hope you will honestly think of what it means to be a nurse and decide it's really what you want to do, and treat it as an end in itself, not a means to another end .....
become an accountant, a chef, a technician or whatever they need there if going over is what you want ... but not a nurse please .... you're holding people's lives in your hands ....
Whilst there will be a handful who chose nursing because they truly want to save lives, you can't rule out those who do so for more material reasons. Besides, with the bad nursing shortage that exists worldwide these days, I don't think we have the luxury of weeding out people who want to enter the profession for 'less noble' reasons. We truly need all the help we can get.
Besides, a desire to save lives can and do rub off on you somehow, once you're in the profession.
We're all different in that we get motivated by different things. I love nursing but to be honest, back in Singapore, I was getting burnt out and was starting to detest it. But now, in a 'better' work environment and with fairer remuneration, I'm starting to love nursing once more. -
Hi all, if you are keen on migrating to australia, why don't you consider mining as your career/job. It is not an easy job. The working hours is long and you live in a rural environment. However the wages you receive is a lot more compared to an experience nurse.
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And if you get out after being buried alive, you could make a few million talking to Channel Nine.Originally posted by whitsundays:Hi all, if you are keen on migrating to australia, why don't you consider mining as your career/job. It is not an easy job. The working hours is long and you live in a rural environment. However the wages you receive is a lot more compared to an experience nurse. -
Originally posted by Gedanken:And if you get out after being buried alive, you could make a few million talking to Channel Nine.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:And if you get out after being buried alive, you could make a few million talking to Channel Nine.
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Forgot to renew my P-membership before I left Singapore! 
Now, no more P-membership liao! -
Senior Member also can.Originally posted by Rhonda: Forgot to renew my P-membership before I left Singapore! Now, no more P-membership liao!
Hope you have a fulfiling life over there. -
The Singapore nurses are only paid $45 extra for weekday night shifts and $55 extra for weekend / public holiday night shifts nia. That's all!Originally posted by tokyofire:Dear Rhonda,
Our Nurses(local) are underpaid as compare to others 1st world countries. If you realised that the foreign Nurses are not Staff Nurses, so you can see how underpaid they are.
I am not sure if our local nurses are paid allowances for shift work..
And oh, $2 'meal allowance' for working the PM shifts.
Those are a sad, sorry pittance compared to what we get here in Victoria! -
How come all think at 30s and have $$ then can go.
It all depends on where U wanna go.
Go Oz or Canada.. too many ppl going there liao..
Try Europe like Sweden, Norway, Finland..
they offer free Education (so U can go for your Bacholar degree free) and later stay there when U are done.
met 1 Singaporean that did that and slowly more and more PRC and Indian do that. Some even did their Masters in UK and U know UK almost impossible to PR all go to above places. Free Education, no need to fight for scholarship, no bond, why head here?
as in staying there forever, not on many head.. can stay there while U are young and retire in home country! I guess Home to them is EARTH just being flexible! -
looking for a way out.
but i am quite worried about "fitting in" - for example racism. Are there any other "non-Ang Moh" countries that are good for migration?
BTW, can anyone reveal the procedures and $$ involved? maybe a PM if u think its too private? what about our parents or other family members? cant bring them over too?
Is age a problem too? What is a "good age" for migration? 30s is best?
wish to know more details. thanks.
(damn, i should've studied harder to be a doc or nurse ) -
Originally posted by sgquitter:
get used to it...u r just pampered in Spore since u r not in the minority group
[b]looking for a way out.
but i am quite worried about "fitting in" - for example racism. Are there any other "non-Ang Moh" countries that are good for migration? -
i dunno about other countries beside australia..if u r below 30 u get more points...Originally posted by sgquitter:looking for a way out.
Is age a problem too? What is a "good age" for migration? 30s is best? -
Singapore is a place to visit, not a place to set down roots (imo).
I would like to migrate to the UK or Canada. Wherever I migrate to, it must have the 4 seasons.
Singapore is too damn boring. One needs the seasons to revilatlise one's senses. In england, I would look up at the sky in spring and think to myself "dammit, this is a beautiful world". -
Finland, Austria, Sweden not that hard to go also.. esp after your education.
more Indian, PRC and Pakistane going there..
4season too..
but making a lving.. that I don't know liao.. -
Have you been to these countries?Originally posted by scabstermooch:Singapore is a place to visit, not a place to set down roots (imo).
I would like to migrate to the UK or Canada. Wherever I migrate to, it must have the 4 seasons.
Singapore is too damn boring. One needs the seasons to revilatlise one's senses. In england, I would look up at the sky in spring and think to myself "dammit, this is a beautiful world".