Management using words like "Stupid", "Nuts" on staff

• Honeybunz

  12 Apr 07, 13:13

  I would like to get some advice from you all on the action I should take against my General Manager.
  
  Yesterday, after I left office, he called my colleague and was furious about something. He used words like "Are you NUTS?" and "Stupid" on my colleague.
  
  I would like to confront him later on this. But I'm not sure how effective it is going to be. I don't care if I lose my job but solved the problem. But I am more concerned about after talking to him and he still thinks he's right.
  
  Do you think I should confront him or just make a complain to MOM?
• pinkish purple papayas

  12 Apr 07, 13:21

  Ur colleague may have been exaggerating?
  
  "This is stupid" is very different from "Your are stupid"
  
  Besides, whats done is also done liao.. u can't change him, he can't change you. Why not try to neutralise or find a common ground? rather then wage war.
  
  In the end also no one wins, not even the company..
• Honeybunz

  12 Apr 07, 13:25

  Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:

  Ur colleague may have been exaggerating?
  
  "This is stupid" is very different from "Your are stupid"
  
  Besides, whats done is also done liao.. u can't change him, he can't change you. Why not try to neutralise or find a common ground? rather then wage war.
  
  In the end also no one wins, not even the company..

  Actually, he's been calling names and it's known throughout the company. Nobody ever confronted him before.
• the Bear

  12 Apr 07, 13:28

  well, i'm not sure how it is with your side, but it's not anything the MOM can do... unless it is done for the purpose of intimidating and causing mental distress.. and done chronically...
  
  
• HyuugaNeji

  12 Apr 07, 13:28

  Never been in the army before?
  
  We hear dirt, stupid, fuck you, fuck off all the time.
• SevenEleven

  12 Apr 07, 13:28

  Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:

  Ur colleague may have been exaggerating?
  
  "This is stupid" is very different from "Your are stupid"
  
  Besides, whats done is also done liao.. u can't change him, he can't change you. Why not try to neutralise or find a common ground? rather then wage war.
  
  In the end also no one wins, not even the company..

  i think you are right. it one man words against the other. you did not hear the tone to the statement thus any confrontation will cause harm to the working relationship. as a HR manager does not means you champion your staff rights whenever there is a complain. if necessary find out more about the incident before taking necessary measures.
  
  advice to your staff: sticks and stones may break your bones but word cannot harm me.
  
  cheers
  
• the Bear

  12 Apr 07, 13:31

  this isn't the army
  
  

  Originally posted by HyuugaNeji:

  Never been in the army before?
  
  We hear dirt, stupid, fuck you, fuck off all the time.

• pinkish purple papayas

  12 Apr 07, 13:32

  Originally posted by Honeybunz:

  Actually, he's been calling names and it's known throughout the company. Nobody ever confronted him before.

  Thats means he is comfortable with calling people names...make him uncomfortable then..
  
  Like sacastically or negatively... if much hinting also cannot then confront loh..if confront also cannot then get internal actions... lastly resort to external loh..
  
  besides, if hes the general manager, i guess calling people names is his way of exerting authority..maybe he dun really means it.. its perhaps just his way to show power in office.
  
  Like my colleague, laugh so bloody loud not because the joke is funny, but to show his participation in discussion..
• Honeybunz

  12 Apr 07, 13:33

  Originally posted by the Bear:

  well, i'm not sure how it is with your side, but it's not anything the MOM can do... unless it is done for the purpose of intimidating and causing mental distress.. and done chronically...
  
  

  What do you normally do if your boss does this to your staff?
  What will you do if your boss call you stupid?
  
  Advise leh.
• the Bear

  12 Apr 07, 13:37

  my situation very different leh... i've got a bad rep.. i've told bosses that they are stupid and i proved to them that they have been stupid... they end up being angry but cannot do anything..
  
  and not many have this kind of lunacy i usually exhibit...
  
  i dunno.. how quick-witted is your colleague? use the very words back on the big boss to show the insanity of the situation?
  
  

  Originally posted by Honeybunz:

  What do you normally do if your boss does this to your staff?
  What will you do if your boss call you stupid?
  
  Advise leh.

• choco B

  12 Apr 07, 13:57

  What you know is related by your colleague to you, you didn't hear the boss scolding her first hand?
  
  The tone of his voice matters. Also there is a chance for words to be twisted out of context.
  
  Is there someone in the hierarchy between you and your GM? If there is, it is more his place to speak to the GM.
  
  If there isn't, and you report straight to your GM, you can still do something.
  
  Find a time to talk to him in private, like in a "by-the-way, just to keep you updated" manner, tell him that your colleague has been feeling very down , depressed, lost appetite, etc. ever since he scolded her using such harsh words. And that what he did hurt her (and everyone who had been scolded before) feelings. And that you are concerned for her well-being and health.
  
  Don't expect an apology, don't push for any admission from him, but hopefully he will tone down in future. Do not be confrontational.
  
  If I were insulted, I'd immediately say, "I may have screwed up and I apologize for that, but there is no need to call me names and get personal".
  

  Originally posted by Honeybunz:

  Yesterday, after I left office, he called my colleague and was furious about something. He used words like "Are you NUTS?" and "Stupid" on my colleague.
  

• viciouskitty74

  13 Apr 07, 09:51

  MOM cant do anything.
  
  Only your big bozz or HR can.
  
  You collegue can resign.
• Ah Cek

  13 Apr 07, 09:52

  guan zi liang ke kou.
  
  boss always wins.
• dork3d

  13 Apr 07, 09:56

  Originally posted by Honeybunz:

  I would like to get some advice from you all on the action I should take against my General Manager.
  
  Yesterday, after I left office, he called my colleague and was furious about something. He used words like "Are you NUTS?" and "Stupid" on my colleague.
  
  I would like to confront him later on this. But I'm not sure how effective it is going to be. I don't care if I lose my job but solved the problem. But I am more concerned about after talking to him and he still thinks he's right.
  
  Do you think I should confront him or just make a complain to MOM?

  As long as he's not verbally abusing with vulgarities and crude words, there's very much nothing you can do...
  
  Do the company have HR department? Send your grievances to the HR for documentation... If your HR department doesn't take action, the next course of action can be lodged to MOM, but subjective to how sustainabe proof you can collate...
  
  If your company is unionised and HR department doesn't take action, lodge your grievances with the union representative for further action...
• Dr Who

  13 Apr 07, 10:41

  record on your hp camera..........evidence.......
  
  
• dragg

  13 Apr 07, 10:56

  i doubt its against any rules calling your subordinates names.
  
  MOM wont and cant do anything.
  
  
• Mospeada

  13 Apr 07, 10:58

  tis very common wor...
  
  i heard even worst...
  
  something like" You Dog, issit? so simple also dunno how to do....if i need to do everything myself...i wun be needing u liao..."
  
  
• MamaRos

  13 Apr 07, 17:41

  Being called names should not be tolerated by anyone, ANYWHERE. How can someone, boss or not boss, call us 'stupid', 'idiot' or whatever degrading words like that? I would stand up and tell the boss off, albeit in a cool tone that he should not be so personal in the workplace. If there is any mistake in the task, he should point at the mistake and said 'tis is a silly mistake' and not addressed his employee as 'silly' because there is a lot of difference in making angry remarks at a piece of work and a person.
  
  If the boss fires me for my speaking up then well and good. I can always cite my reason for leaving the company as ' verbal abuse by boss'. Fortunately not ALL employers are like that. Those who are are those who have never been told not to do it, so they think it is okay.
  
  It is bad enough to know that a job is not done properly, it is demeaning to be humiliated in the presence of fellow colleagues.
  
  
• browniebaobao

  14 Apr 07, 10:14

  my director likes to call clients 'idiot' leh.
• Tan Ah Teck

  14 Apr 07, 10:19

  Originally posted by Mospeada:

  tis very common wor...
  
  i heard even worst...
  
  something like" You Dog, issit? so simple also dunno how to do....if i need to do everything myself...i wun be needing u liao..."
  
  

  x2.
• Honeybunz

  14 Apr 07, 19:03

  I didn't get to see him, so I wrote an email to him telling him that his words caused emotional distress. He replied saying that he wasn't hurting anyone blah blah blah.
  
  Like what some of you said lor... don't expect him to apologise. I also don't expect that. Just wanna put the message across that someone was hurt.
• the Bear

  14 Apr 07, 19:11

  you can reply that he may think he's not hurting anyone but he did..
  
  and he has been told... so he cannot deny knowledge anymore
  
  

  Originally posted by Honeybunz:

  I didn't get to see him, so I wrote an email to him telling him that his words caused emotional distress. He replied saying that he wasn't hurting anyone blah blah blah.
  
  Like what some of you said lor... don't expect him to apologise. I also don't expect that. Just wanna put the message across that someone was hurt.

• monoslayer

  14 Apr 07, 19:27

  record down the video n post it on youtube + stomp it!
• viciouskitty74

  15 Apr 07, 02:15

  management is NUTTS!!!!!
• soulwinner

  15 Apr 07, 02:16

  Tell him F&& off...