Night Owl Chatterboxes - Part XXXVI!
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i personally won't bother bout the cheater or what he's doing. cuz in life, everyone tells lies, he'd just better pray that he doesn't get caught.. but i won't tell on him either.
in life, how many actually work their way up there just via hard work? but we can only sit back and suck it up. -
ends justify the means?
whatever it costs?
even your dignity, your conscience and humanity?
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i would call it cheating thought probably not directly by the rich kid. grudge? maybe, but its hard to hate when you are not that directly affected.Originally posted by fudgester:1. Life may be unfair, but that rich ass kid isn't cheating. So I can't (and never will) have a grudge on that kid.
2. The cheater takes risk and effort, but so did that honest student who takes risk and effort into studying.
3. I don't impose my values upon others, but I hate it when I have to suffer at the hands of people who see it fair to impose their values of cheating on me.
as i said i would hate it too. hey on the other hand you do what you do and they do what they do. hmmz interestingly if we catch and report them we would be imposing our values on them
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and you are imposing yours on mine when you cheat to take away from me..
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i'm sure pple stop some where. its just where's the line you feel is the limit or where you are unwilling to go. not sure if its worth it. some pple do think so.Originally posted by the Bear:ends justify the means?
whatever it costs?
even your dignity, your conscience and humanity?
was it worth it?
anyways abit heavy for b4 sleep discussions. i'm hitting the sack. have fun pple -
so in effect we are imposing our values on others anyway we do it. tryanny of the majority all over again?Originally posted by the Bear:and you are imposing yours on mine when you cheat to take away from me..
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i hope you will never ever have to teach these to your children when they choose right... and you tell them they should cheat...
because you have just justified and rationalised dishonesty...
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majority?
there is no majority in being honest...
or minority...
justifying that you are doing it because your values say so, you live your life..
just hope you don't cross anyone whose values say that he can steal your life's work.. because you will have to let him.. because hey.. you said so
Originally posted by hisoka:so in effect we are imposing our values on others anyway we do it. tryanny of the majority all over again? -
1. Look, the rich kid did not ask to be rich. It is not an evil thing to be rich. So why is that considered as cheating? In all honesty, I'm sensing an undercurrent of grudge against rich people in your tone.Originally posted by hisoka:i would call it cheating thought probably not directly by the rich kid. grudge? maybe, but its hard to hate when you are not that directly affected.
as i said i would hate it too. hey on the other hand you do what you do and they do what they do. hmmz interestingly if we catch and report them we would be imposing our values on them
And I've already talked about how much I suffered in JC because of my family's financial problems - surely you didn't think that I wouldn't feel a little pang of hurt when I see rich kids lugging handphones then? But then I would pull myself together and refuse to hate them, for they certainly weren't out to hurt me.
And certainly, I don't see them as being out to cheat me of anything.
2. Remember Engin Prof? Remember the concept of 'universalizability'? What applies to you shall apply to me as well.
Remember the concept of 'respect-for-persons'? About having the duty to respect the rights of others if they respect our rights?
Why not see it this way: the cheater has imposed his values of cheating on the rest of us honest people.
So I won't weep as I impose my values of honesty on the cheater. Since he sees it fit to impose his values on me, I see it fit to impose my values on him. And since he won't respect my right to a fair and honest exam, I won't respect his right to enjoy the fruits of his cheating activities.
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i would like to see perverts, for eg, rape a few girls, get jailed, and called it the tyranny of the majority
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so the ppl who doesn't bao toh are they cheating on others as well?
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did I ever mention here before that I got hauled up before a faculty academic discipline committee for letting someone copy a programming assignment ? ....
the timestamp on the code cleared me as the source and not the copy ... but I still got a warning ........ -
hey i said it was unfair and having an unfair platform qualifies as cheating in some sense of the word.Originally posted by fudgester:1. Look, the rich kid did not ask to be rich. It is not an evil thing to be rich. So why is that considered as cheating? In all honesty, I'm sensing an undercurrent of grudge against rich people in your tone.
And I've already talked about how much I suffered in JC because of my family's financial problems - surely you didn't think that I wouldn't feel a little pang of hurt when I see rich kids lugging handphones then? But then I would pull myself together and refuse to hate them, for they certainly weren't out to hurt me.
And certainly, I don't see them as being out to cheat me of anything.
2. Remember Engin Prof? Remember the concept of 'universalizability'? What applies to you shall apply to me as well.
Remember the concept of 'respect-for-persons'? About having the duty to respect the rights of others if they respect our rights?
Why not see it this way: the cheater has imposed his values of cheating on the rest of us honest people.
So I won't weep as I impose my values of honesty on the cheater. Since he sees it fit to impose his values on me, I see it fit to impose my values on him. And since he won't respect my right to a fair and honest exam, I won't respect his right to enjoy the fruits of his cheating activities.
'Nuff said. I'm outta here.
grudge against the rich? i won't call it a grudge against them. i would rather put it as unhappiness over the unfairness but resigned to what life has to offer. nothing personal against them.
but if you expect him not to cheat it would be imposing your values on him too. so in the end i guess at least one side must impose values on the other.
bear: i rationalised it but i never said iw as jsut going to let the person take it because its reasonable. afterall humans are creatures of contradiction and irrationality. lots of pple will say its ok to kill 1 stranger to save the whole human race but won't be able to do it its to kill him/herself or close ones.
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pic of the night..
some drunk guy brings his horse into a bank entrance and decides to "rest" there while his horse waits patiently
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Originally posted by the Bear:pic of the night..
some drunk guy brings his horse into a bank entrance and decides to "rest" there while his horse waits patiently
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looking at the picture, i think his horse made a "deposit"
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From the article itselfOriginally posted by the Bear:looking at the picture, i think his horse made a "deposit"No charges were filed, but there might be some cleanup needed: Apparently Sammy made his own after-hours deposit on the carpet.
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I can't believe we are on international news for this
Tue Apr 24, 4:04 AM ET
SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Gentlemen please, rate yourselves: are you a cucumber or a banana in bed?
Singapore's Society for Men's Health and a pharmaceutical firm are proposing a four-point scale for erectile dysfunction, allowing men to rate their own hardness with four categories: cucumber, unpeeled banana, peeled banana and tofu (bean curd).
"Men should aim for this," UK sex therapist Victoria Lehmann told a news conference, holding a cucumber.
The scale does not involve any scientific measurement -- patients would merely be asked to assess their own levels of hardness -- and has not been accepted by any medical authorities
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070424/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_erections;_ylt=AmARqc17vHvNW2ee7Ks2coteW7oF -
ahahahahaha!
i didn't read that
but what a nice horsey.. stand there and wait
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well, we have a banana somewhere
oh.. just got off the phone with the wonderful wonderful baby
she says that Carnivore at Vivocity sucks.. and she's got her finger on the pulse of things thereOriginally posted by elindra:I can't believe we are on international news for this
Tue Apr 24, 4:04 AM ET
SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Gentlemen please, rate yourselves: are you a cucumber or a banana in bed?
Singapore's Society for Men's Health and a pharmaceutical firm are proposing a four-point scale for erectile dysfunction, allowing men to rate their own hardness with four categories: cucumber, unpeeled banana, peeled banana and tofu (bean curd).
"Men should aim for this," UK sex therapist Victoria Lehmann told a news conference, holding a cucumber.
The scale does not involve any scientific measurement -- patients would merely be asked to assess their own levels of hardness -- and has not been accepted by any medical authorities
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070424/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_erections;_ylt=AmARqc17vHvNW2ee7Ks2coteW7oF -
ooooooooooooooOriginally posted by the Bear:well, we have a banana somewhere
oh.. just got off the phone with the wonderful wonderful baby
she says that Carnivore at Vivocity sucks.. and she's got her finger on the pulse of things there
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what are you ooooooooo-ing about?
i still owe her sushi -
Are you asking her outOriginally posted by the Bear:what are you ooooooooo-ing about?
i still owe her sushi
Are you Are you? -
i will.. if i can get a day off or somethingOriginally posted by elindra:Are you asking her out
Are you Are you?