What made TCM ticks..
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After 2500 years of history, mankind is going back to nature to treat himself.. so how does TCM work in this era and how is it different from 200 years of scientific medicines
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Homework topic?
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i dunno
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it took all the shaolin and wudang serials over the years where all the "internal strength" and the buddha palm kung fu that makes it effective
add to that, the bad dubbing, the paper-thin plots and bad special effects
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haha.. jus curious, cos i am a non-chinese.. read somewhere that TCM is taking the world
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I suppose many just wanna find an alternative to the western medication? Therefore TCM?
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I guess coz western medicine gets rid of the symptons whereas TCM get rid of the roots of the problemOriginally posted by primalscream:haha.. jus curious, cos i am a non-chinese.. read somewhere that TCM is taking the world
Supposed to be less harsh on the body though it takes a longer time -
don't really know how it works.. but it does..
like acupuncture is probably stimulating the release of whatever chemicals and stuff the body produces, blocking nerves or something like that..
herbs.. every culture has herbalists...
massage therapy, does help with many things...
and a lot of others, goodness knows why they work -
The difference between TCM and modern medicine is that unlike modern medicine which has a few hundred years of history and record, TCM goes back a few thousand years.......
Primarily, modern medicine only treats the symptoms - so if you have a running nose, modern medicine dries up and stops the fluid from flowing out of the nose but it doesn't fight the virus causing the illness.
Whereas, TCM targets the root (virus) and eliminates the virus and is not too concerned with just stopping the runniness. This is why some people say Chinese medicine is not as strong as western ones.......
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wow thanks , have you been to those cupping or accupunture before? kinda gruesome looking...Originally posted by :The difference between TCM and modern medicine is that unlike modern medicine which has a few hundred years of history and record, TCM goes back a few thousand years.......
Primarily, modern medicine only treats the symptoms - so if you have a running nose, modern medicine dries up and stops the fluid from flowing out of the nose but it doesn't fight the virus causing the illness.
Whereas, TCM targets the root (virus) and eliminates the virus and is not too concerned with just stopping the runniness. This is why some people say Chinese medicine is not as strong as western ones....... -
TCM is very different from westerm medicine as western medicine believe in treating only the symptom and they do not believe that the body system is interlink together in a way that anything happen to certain organ can affect the remaining ones . While TCM acknowledge that the body consist of ying n yang elements which are delicately balanced within our internal organs . As such TCM is able to treat problems down to the root instead of just the symtoms but of cos slower then western medicine . And also a very skilled TCM doctor can tell your health much more then a western doctor can without having to go through so many test . One example is to detect whether a person is pregnant anot just by taking your pulse without having to go for pregnancy test or using test kit . I have a female chinese TCm doctor that can tell alot of your health just by taking my pulse . She was the one who told me to go for a full blood test because she can sense i have extremely high cholestrol content in my body without even having to go for any test and something is very wrong with my health as later i found out that my health is in the red light as not only i have bad case of thyroid but also have 1500 mg of cholestrol which is very dangerouse . And she even help my brother to cut down his cholestrol much faster then the western drug given by the western doctor . This i am very sure cos i myself also take the medicine which is in granules form in a satched but tasted very sour . My cholestrol lvl lower down much faster then the western drug which my specialise also dumb struck over how did i lower it down so quickly . And due to my old chronic ankle injury which western dctor keep giving me pain killer for it citing obese as reason , she gave me the medicine which really can stop the pain for abt 3 months even when i stop taking it . Usually normal pain killer can only ease the pain for a few hrs but hers can cure it for months before it came back agn .
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In short think ok , if TCM is really as useless as what those western doctors have said , then how is it able to survive untill now which is already a few thousand years and now even gaining more and more recognition for it . I have been for cupping and acupuncture . cupping usually is used to remove stagnant blood in your body by pricking a few holes on your skin then use the cups to suck it out and is also used to treat rheumatism by absobing the excess moisture in your body that causes rheumatism . As for acupunture as chinese TCM believe that there are channels in which our " inner energy " flows similar to those chakra channel for naruto anime or so called neigong in those gungfu movies . There is a saying in chinese medicine whereby " if it pains then it is not flowing smoothly , and if it there is no pain means everything is flowing smoothly " . So in acupuncture they study all this meridiens in the body and to regulate them using the fine needles to " adjust " the flow . Like when a muscle is cramped , it means the muscle is very tense and the blood is unable to flow out so they will use fine needle to sooth it then when the muscle relax itself the blood will flow smoothly agn . Acupunctures are noted for their speedy ability to sooth pains much faster then taking medicines usually within a few minutes after treatments you can feel the difference .
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so we all got nei gong ah u saying? unlock all liao then become dong fang bu bai lor!
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For a girl to be dong fang bu bai, it's ok. But for a guy, he will need to cut off his bird bird first.Originally posted by venny:so we all got nei gong ah u saying? unlock all liao then become dong fang bu bai lor! -
Thanks alot for sharing your knowledge.. you are a true believer.. i was surfing and researching.. its really very interesting way of looking at the whole body system in the TCM way.Originally posted by TWE:In short think ok , if TCM is really as useless as what those western doctors have said , then how is it able to survive untill now which is already a few thousand years and now even gaining more and more recognition for it . I have been for cupping and acupuncture . cupping usually is used to remove stagnant blood in your body by pricking a few holes on your skin then use the cups to suck it out and is also used to treat rheumatism by absobing the excess moisture in your body that causes rheumatism . As for acupunture as chinese TCM believe that there are channels in which our " inner energy " flows similar to those chakra channel for naruto anime or so called neigong in those gungfu movies . There is a saying in chinese medicine whereby " if it pains then it is not flowing smoothly , and if it there is no pain means everything is flowing smoothly " . So in acupuncture they study all this meridiens in the body and to regulate them using the fine needles to " adjust " the flow . Like when a muscle is cramped , it means the muscle is very tense and the blood is unable to flow out so they will use fine needle to sooth it then when the muscle relax itself the blood will flow smoothly agn . Acupunctures are noted for their speedy ability to sooth pains much faster then taking medicines usually within a few minutes after treatments you can feel the difference . -
however, cannot assume that cos it is 'natural' means its less strong
I watched this documentary about this lady who believed a lot in gingko nuts helping to improve her memory
She ate those gingko nuts capsules she can buy from pharmacy
she started taking the recommended dosage, than slowly increased dosage because she felt it was so effective. she thought since it was natural, it shouldnt 'harm' her body
anyway one side effect of gingko nut apparently is that its a blood thinner
her blood got so thinned, she went into coma, barely survived. -
i guess its more of we reached the point where western medication seems ot be slowing down its advance and we are finding more problems associated with it as we are more familiar, therefore an attempt to find alternatives.
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Interesting things you have written about "inner energy", meridian and acupuncture. I've recently come across something very similar, but seems much easier for everyone to do, no need to be some gongfu grandmaster or TCM expert. It is about simpler ways to stimulate the acupressure points and meridian, such as massage, gua sha, etc. Good thing about techniques like massaging is that it reduces the need to be super accurate, as required in acupuncture, hence making it easy for anyone to do. May not be as powerful as acupuncutre, but definitely worth trying for everyday health improvement and maintenance.Originally posted by TWE:In short think ok , if TCM is really as useless as what those western doctors have said , then how is it able to survive untill now which is already a few thousand years and now even gaining more and more recognition for it . I have been for cupping and acupuncture . cupping usually is used to remove stagnant blood in your body by pricking a few holes on your skin then use the cups to suck it out and is also used to treat rheumatism by absobing the excess moisture in your body that causes rheumatism . As for acupunture as chinese TCM believe that there are channels in which our " inner energy " flows similar to those chakra channel for naruto anime or so called neigong in those gungfu movies . There is a saying in chinese medicine whereby " if it pains then it is not flowing smoothly , and if it there is no pain means everything is flowing smoothly " . So in acupuncture they study all this meridiens in the body and to regulate them using the fine needles to " adjust " the flow . Like when a muscle is cramped , it means the muscle is very tense and the blood is unable to flow out so they will use fine needle to sooth it then when the muscle relax itself the blood will flow smoothly agn . Acupunctures are noted for their speedy ability to sooth pains much faster then taking medicines usually within a few minutes after treatments you can feel the difference .
I'm still reading up and finding out more about this area. The book I'm currently reading is in chinese, translated title "Meridians of the Human Body: User Manual". Really facinating! -
I agree totally.. all our forefathers have been depending on herbs and traditional methods for centuries. Like my grandmum will always grind some herbs and rub on us whenever we have fever when we were young and we survived.Originally posted by hisoka:i guess its more of we reached the point where western medication seems ot be slowing down its advance and we are finding more problems associated with it as we are more familiar, therefore an attempt to find alternatives.
Now with western medicines having side effects and not hitting the root of the problem, i am keen to learn more about herbs and methods of acupunture, cupping, shiatsu, massage etc. But i do not want to pay a bomb from someone claiming he/she is a TCM specialist and bullying a non chinese. Anyone have any recommendation that u have been ? -
TCM is truly facinating. I think if you want to learn all those stuff in detail, it will take 6 years or so to learn from TCM college or Chung Hwa Medical Institute in Singapore. If you survive that, you'll get some diploma at the end of it all. Courses are in Chinese only though.Originally posted by primalscream:I agree totally.. all our forefathers have been depending on herbs and traditional methods for centuries. Like my grandmum will always grind some herbs and rub on us whenever we have fever when we were young and we survived.
Now with western medicines having side effects and not hitting the root of the problem, i am keen to learn more about herbs and methods of acupunture, cupping, shiatsu, massage etc. But i do not want to pay a bomb from someone claiming he/she is a TCM specialist and bullying a non chinese. Anyone have any recommendation that u have been ?
If you are worried about paying a bomb or getting "bullied", you can try attending some courses conducted at Community Centres. If you search around People's Association website, there's some short courses related to how to prepare some chinese herbal diets, gua sha, meridian massage, etc. They should be cheap, and probably screened by the PA to throw out all the bullies!
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Thanks for all yr views and tips. Jus when i needed i heard over the radio afew days ago about this lady who explains and also conducts workshops about how to use simple DIY methods to take care of health in the TCM arena.
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